Toshiba e800 and Dell Axim X3

[Paul Remde]

Hi,

After all the discussion about the Toshiba e800 on this forum I did some
investigating. It does look like a very interesting Pocket PC. Besides the
large (4" vs. 3.5" or 3.8") high resolution (480x640 vs. 240x320) screen, it
also has both CF and SD card slots and a very, very large optional battery.
I've added it to my example systems web page and Pocket PC comparison page.
I ordered one for testing. Hopefully it will be easy to make Glide
Navigator II run on it in high resolution mode. If not it should work fine
in standard resolution for now. Larry Goddard seems confident that he can
make serial data/power cables for the e800 so I've added a cable to my
Goddard web page.

The new Dell Axim X3 doesn't have a serial data port so it won't work with
an external GPS/logger, but it is a nice low cost solution. It also has an
optional large battery (but not nearly as large as the one for the e800) and
should work great with an SD GPS.

Both systems should be nice portable solutions.

I'll let you know how they work after I receive them and play with them.

Pocket PC Comparison Page
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/ppc.htm

Example Systems Page
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/systems.htm

Goddard Cable Systems
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde

[Eric Greenwell]

Paul Remde wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After all the discussion about the Toshiba e800 on this forum I did some
> investigating. It does look like a very interesting Pocket PC. Besides the
> large (4" vs. 3.5" or 3.8") high resolution (480x640 vs. 240x320) screen, it
> also has both CF and SD card slots and a very, very large optional battery.
> I've added it to my example systems web page and Pocket PC comparison page.
> I ordered one for testing.

Atta boy, Paul! I'm really interested in this one, so thanks for taking
the lead here. If it turns out to be a keeper, then maybe we can figure
out how to get the Bluetooth version in addition to the USA wi-fi unit.

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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

[Erazem Polutnik]

Hello,
we have tested SeeYou Mobile on Toshiba e800 and it works great. See thread
http://www.seeyou.ws/forum/messages/1031/1044.html
You can also use drivers for landscape mode and it works ok.

Seeyou
Erazem (TeamCu)

[Paul Remde]

Hi,

Of course, the only thing it is missing is that it doesn't fit into an iPAQ
expansion pack - so it doesn't fit into the nice cradles with the cables
coming out the back of the cradle. That is a major drawback. I sell very
nice RAM cradles that can hold the e800, and cables to connect it to any
GPS, but the connector and cable stick out the bottom of the device and may
be bumped or damaged by your leg in a cramped glider cockpit.

My dream is that HP will follow suite with a new iPAQ that will have the 4"
screen and fit into a standard iPAQ expansion pack. Has anyone heard any
rumors...? I haven't.

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde

"Eric Greenwell" > wrote in message
...
> Paul Remde wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > After all the discussion about the Toshiba e800 on this forum I did some
> > investigating. It does look like a very interesting Pocket PC. Besides
the
> > large (4" vs. 3.5" or 3.8") high resolution (480x640 vs. 240x320)
screen, it
> > also has both CF and SD card slots and a very, very large optional
battery.
> > I've added it to my example systems web page and Pocket PC comparison
page.
> > I ordered one for testing.
>
> Atta boy, Paul! I'm really interested in this one, so thanks for taking
> the lead here. If it turns out to be a keeper, then maybe we can figure
> out how to get the Bluetooth version in addition to the USA wi-fi unit.
>
> --
> -----
> change "netto" to "net" to email me directly
>
> Eric Greenwell
> Washington State
> USA
>

[Kirk Stant]

"Paul Remde" > wrote in message news:<kgZ3c.5651$i76.82694@attbi_s03>...
> Hi,
>
> Of course, the only thing it is missing is that it doesn't fit into an iPAQ
> expansion pack - so it doesn't fit into the nice cradles with the cables
> coming out the back of the cradle. That is a major drawback. I sell very
> nice RAM cradles that can hold the e800, and cables to connect it to any
> GPS, but the connector and cable stick out the bottom of the device and may
> be bumped or damaged by your leg in a cramped glider cockpit.

Paul, is anyone looking at making a low profile "L" shaped
serial/power connector to fit in the bottom of a PDA? Something that
would not stick down more than a half inch or so, with the cable
coming in from the back instead of hanging down?

Kind of like the low profile Garmin power/data plug for my Pilot 3 -
it shouldn't be an enormous engineering task.

Kirk

[Paul Remde]

Hi,

It would be very nice if someone would create a connector like that. We
haven't been able to find a source for an iPAQ connector like that. I'll
buy 200 if you make some.

Thanks,

Paul Remde

"Kirk Stant" > wrote in message
om...
> "Paul Remde" > wrote in message
news:<kgZ3c.5651$i76.82694@attbi_s03>...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Of course, the only thing it is missing is that it doesn't fit into an
iPAQ
> > expansion pack - so it doesn't fit into the nice cradles with the cables
> > coming out the back of the cradle. That is a major drawback. I sell
very
> > nice RAM cradles that can hold the e800, and cables to connect it to any
> > GPS, but the connector and cable stick out the bottom of the device and
may
> > be bumped or damaged by your leg in a cramped glider cockpit.
>
> Paul, is anyone looking at making a low profile "L" shaped
> serial/power connector to fit in the bottom of a PDA? Something that
> would not stick down more than a half inch or so, with the cable
> coming in from the back instead of hanging down?
>
> Kind of like the low profile Garmin power/data plug for my Pilot 3 -
> it shouldn't be an enormous engineering task.
>
> Kirk

[Kim Eggert]

The axim X3 do have a serial port, but it is not RS232,






"Paul Remde" > wrote in message news:<seS3c.3483$YG.38047@attbi_s01>...
> Hi,
>
> After all the discussion about the Toshiba e800 on this forum I did some
> investigating. It does look like a very interesting Pocket PC. Besides the
> large (4" vs. 3.5" or 3.8") high resolution (480x640 vs. 240x320) screen, it
> also has both CF and SD card slots and a very, very large optional battery.
> I've added it to my example systems web page and Pocket PC comparison page.
> I ordered one for testing. Hopefully it will be easy to make Glide
> Navigator II run on it in high resolution mode. If not it should work fine
> in standard resolution for now. Larry Goddard seems confident that he can
> make serial data/power cables for the e800 so I've added a cable to my
> Goddard web page.
>
> The new Dell Axim X3 doesn't have a serial data port so it won't work with
> an external GPS/logger, but it is a nice low cost solution. It also has an
> optional large battery (but not nearly as large as the one for the e800) and
> should work great with an SD GPS.
>
> Both systems should be nice portable solutions.
>
> I'll let you know how they work after I receive them and play with them.
>
> Pocket PC Comparison Page
> http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/ppc.htm
>
> Example Systems Page
> http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/systems.htm
>
> Goddard Cable Systems
> http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm
>
> Good Soaring,
>
> Paul Remde

[Paul Remde]

Hi,

I've heard different reports on this. Dell technical support told me that
the X3 doesn't have a serial port (Dell technical support has been wrong on
these type of questions in the past). But Pharos GPS told me that it does
have a serial port and that they offer a GPS system that works with the X3
through the serial port.

If it is not an RS-232 serial port - what is it - RS-485?

Paul Remde

"Kim Eggert" > wrote in message
om...
> The axim X3 do have a serial port, but it is not RS232,
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Remde" > wrote in message
news:<seS3c.3483$YG.38047@attbi_s01>...
> > Hi,
> >
> > After all the discussion about the Toshiba e800 on this forum I did some
> > investigating. It does look like a very interesting Pocket PC. Besides
the
> > large (4" vs. 3.5" or 3.8") high resolution (480x640 vs. 240x320)
screen, it
> > also has both CF and SD card slots and a very, very large optional
battery.
> > I've added it to my example systems web page and Pocket PC comparison
page.
> > I ordered one for testing. Hopefully it will be easy to make Glide
> > Navigator II run on it in high resolution mode. If not it should work
fine
> > in standard resolution for now. Larry Goddard seems confident that he
can
> > make serial data/power cables for the e800 so I've added a cable to my
> > Goddard web page.
> >
> > The new Dell Axim X3 doesn't have a serial data port so it won't work
with
> > an external GPS/logger, but it is a nice low cost solution. It also has
an
> > optional large battery (but not nearly as large as the one for the e800)
and
> > should work great with an SD GPS.
> >
> > Both systems should be nice portable solutions.
> >
> > I'll let you know how they work after I receive them and play with them.
> >
> > Pocket PC Comparison Page
> > http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/ppc.htm
> >
> > Example Systems Page
> > http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/systems.htm
> >
> > Goddard Cable Systems
> > http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm
> >
> > Good Soaring,
> >
> > Paul Remde

[Richard Pfiffner]

Kim



I have a mouse type serial GPS on my website that works fine with a Dell
Axim. Rikaline GPS6010 GPS, A6012D Cable to connect GPS to Dell and an
auto power converter to supply power to both.



We have also tried WinPilot (New Versions of WinPilot support VGA) on the
Toshiba 800 and have found that the VGA resolution makes items that you
can't modify very small. The fonts of course can be modifed and made
larger.



Richard

www.craggyaero.com





"Kim Eggert" > wrote in message
om...
> The axim X3 do have a serial port, but it is not RS232,
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Paul Remde" > wrote in message
news:<seS3c.3483$YG.38047@attbi_s01>...
> > Hi,
> >
> > After all the discussion about the Toshiba e800 on this forum I did some
> > investigating. It does look like a very interesting Pocket PC. Besides
the
> > large (4" vs. 3.5" or 3.8") high resolution (480x640 vs. 240x320)
screen, it
> > also has both CF and SD card slots and a very, very large optional
battery.
> > I've added it to my example systems web page and Pocket PC comparison
page.
> > I ordered one for testing. Hopefully it will be easy to make Glide
> > Navigator II run on it in high resolution mode. If not it should work
fine
> > in standard resolution for now. Larry Goddard seems confident that he
can
> > make serial data/power cables for the e800 so I've added a cable to my
> > Goddard web page.
> >
> > The new Dell Axim X3 doesn't have a serial data port so it won't work
with
> > an external GPS/logger, but it is a nice low cost solution. It also has
an
> > optional large battery (but not nearly as large as the one for the e800)
and
> > should work great with an SD GPS.
> >
> > Both systems should be nice portable solutions.
> >
> > I'll let you know how they work after I receive them and play with them.
> >
> > Pocket PC Comparison Page
> > http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/ppc.htm
> >
> > Example Systems Page
> > http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/systems.htm
> >
> > Goddard Cable Systems
> > http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/goddard.htm
> >
> > Good Soaring,
> >
> > Paul Remde

[Marc Ramsey]

Paul Remde wrote:
> I've heard different reports on this. Dell technical support told me that
> the X3 doesn't have a serial port (Dell technical support has been wrong on
> these type of questions in the past). But Pharos GPS told me that it does
> have a serial port and that they offer a GPS system that works with the X3
> through the serial port.

The serial port does not have an RS232 level converter, so the serial
port pins have inverted CMOS (~3 volt) logic signals. Some mouse-style
GPS receivers (like the Holux GM-210 I have sitting here) have both
RS232 and CMOS level serial inputs/outputs, so they can be directly
hooked up to the X3 without external level converters.

Marc

[Skip Guimond]

Control Vision (www.controlvision.com) makes an excellent connector
which is compatable with all iPaqs. Their main business is producing
the excellent anwhere map and anywhere weather programs for power
planes. I use my iPaq in both power and glider aircraft and would not
be without the Control Vision sleeve (although I believe they call it
a sleeve it is really a bottom connector).

Skip Guimond


"Paul Remde" > wrote in message news:<ky84c.12000$YG.114783@attbi_s01>...
> Hi,
>
> It would be very nice if someone would create a connector like that. We
> haven't been able to find a source for an iPAQ connector like that. I'll
> buy 200 if you make some.