I need a story for a television show.

[John Shelton]

Ladies and Gentlemen:

I have been contacted by a television production company creating a series
on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I gave
them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can meet
their parameters.

It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with something.

So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call it)
conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the sailplanes.
I will get the camera ship.

I need the story.

This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike to
a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US but
I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.

I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors will.

So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in a
frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man or
woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)

Thank you. And be quick.

[Ray Lovinggood]

John,

I think the stories of Dick Schreder's landouts would
make memorable stories for the telly.

Probably the best would be his land out in the swamp
in Argentina during the 9th World Soaring Championships.

Second best would be his landout in East Germany during
the 1960 International Soaring Championship.

(I just finished Karen Schreder Barbera's book about
her father and find it unbelievable that one person
lived through and did all of the things Dick Schreder
did. And he did it in one life! It is a GREAT book
about a FANTASTICALLY gifted man! The book is '10,000
Feet & Climbing: The Aviation Adventures of Richard
E. Schreder)

Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA


At 23:36 12 March 2004, John Shelton wrote:
>Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
>I have been contacted by a television production company
>creating a series
>on adventure sports. They were very impressed with
>the crappy media I gave
>them about soaring and would like to include an 'expedition'
>if we can meet
>their parameters.
>
>It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come
>up with something.
>
>So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition
>(they call it)
>conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted
>in a survival
>situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors.
>I have the sailplanes.
>I will get the camera ship.
>
>I need the story.
>
>This will not be someone losing their yaw string and
>having to hitchhike to
>a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse
>with no money on
>him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want
>to shoot in the US but
>I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
>
>I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other
>hand, the actors will.
>
>So either come up with an adventure or go out this
>weekend, land out in a
>frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute,
>hike out to
>civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come
>home a wiser man or
>woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
>
>Thank you. And be quick.
>
>
>
>

[BTIZ]

John... check last summers SSA Magazine.. there was a story there about one
who crashed in the Hills east of LA, and it took a couple of days to get out
of there.. granted.. he did a couple of things wrong..

BT

"John Shelton" > wrote in message
link.net...
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
> I have been contacted by a television production company creating a series
> on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I gave
> them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can
meet
> their parameters.
>
> It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with something.
>
> So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call it)
> conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the
sailplanes.
> I will get the camera ship.
>
> I need the story.
>
> This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike
to
> a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US
but
> I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
>
> I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors
will.
>
> So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in a
> frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man or
> woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
>
> Thank you. And be quick.
>
>
>

[Eric Greenwell]

I'm emailing you some information on two survival situations:

1) Cecil Craig's 1967 landing on the side of Crater Lake (OR) in the
snow in winter, after a wave flight from Mt Rainier (WA), and his rescue
the next by a team on snowmobiles. The original article is in Soaring
(April 1969).

2) The other was a crash on a ridge near Mt Rainier, I believe also in
Soaring but I don't know when. Rescue was the next day, pilot unhurt.


John Shelton wrote:
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
> I have been contacted by a television production company creating a series
> on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I gave
> them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can meet
> their parameters.
>
> It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with something.
>
> So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call it)
> conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the sailplanes.
> I will get the camera ship.
>
> I need the story.
>
> This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike to
> a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US but
> I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
>
> I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors will.
>
> So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in a
> frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man or
> woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
>
> Thank you. And be quick.
>
>
>

--
-----
change "netto" to "net" to email me directly

Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

[Sid Wood]

Read a story in the Soaring Association of Canada's magazine (Free Flight) a
few years back (1983?). It involved a bailout from an HP-14 after the
controls became jammed by something falling into the stick pivot mechanism.
The pilot landed in a river and was almost drowned by the parachute when the
shroud lines became entangled in the canopy release wire which had pierced
his (her?) hand.


"John Shelton" > wrote in message
link.net...
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
> I have been contacted by a television production company creating a series
> on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I gave
> them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can
meet
> their parameters.
>
> It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with something.
>
> So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call it)
> conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the
sailplanes.
> I will get the camera ship.
>
> I need the story.
>
> This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike
to
> a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US
but
> I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
>
> I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors
will.
>
> So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in a
> frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man or
> woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
>
> Thank you. And be quick.
>
>
>

[Sid Wood]

Perhaps Tony Burton can provide more information. As I recall, he did an
illustration for the magazine story.

"Sid Wood" > wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
> Read a story in the Soaring Association of Canada's magazine (Free Flight)
a
> few years back (1983?). It involved a bailout from an HP-14 after the
> controls became jammed by something falling into the stick pivot
mechanism.
> The pilot landed in a river and was almost drowned by the parachute when
the
> shroud lines became entangled in the canopy release wire which had pierced
> his (her?) hand.
>
>
> "John Shelton" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> > Ladies and Gentlemen:
> >
> > I have been contacted by a television production company creating a
series
> > on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I
gave
> > them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can
> meet
> > their parameters.
> >
> > It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with
something.
> >
> > So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call
it)
> > conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> > situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the
> sailplanes.
> > I will get the camera ship.
> >
> > I need the story.
> >
> > This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike
> to
> > a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> > him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US
> but
> > I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
> >
> > I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors
> will.
> >
> > So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in
a
> > frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> > civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man
or
> > woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
> >
> > Thank you. And be quick.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[John Shelton]

THAT one. What is that story?

"BTIZ" > wrote in message
news:fDs4c.12490$Nj.7744@fed1read01...
> John... check last summers SSA Magazine.. there was a story there about
one
> who crashed in the Hills east of LA, and it took a couple of days to get
out
> of there.. granted.. he did a couple of things wrong..
>
> BT
>
> "John Shelton" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> > Ladies and Gentlemen:
> >
> > I have been contacted by a television production company creating a
series
> > on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I
gave
> > them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can
> meet
> > their parameters.
> >
> > It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with
something.
> >
> > So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call
it)
> > conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> > situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the
> sailplanes.
> > I will get the camera ship.
> >
> > I need the story.
> >
> > This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike
> to
> > a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> > him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US
> but
> > I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
> >
> > I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors
> will.
> >
> > So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in
a
> > frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> > civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man
or
> > woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
> >
> > Thank you. And be quick.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[John Shelton]

Was there a guy on the front porch playing a banjo?

If so, you were in the wrong story.

"BMacLean" > wrote in message
news:iCt4c.6200$wg.6099@okepread01...
> I landed at a residential airstrip once and asked for a Diet Coke but all
> they had was Diet Pepsi.
>
> WA light (aka 18)
>
> "John Shelton" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> > Ladies and Gentlemen:
> >
> > I have been contacted by a television production company creating a
series
> > on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I
gave
> > them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can
> meet
> > their parameters.
> >
> > It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with
something.
> >
> > So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call
it)
> > conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> > situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the
> sailplanes.
> > I will get the camera ship.
> >
> > I need the story.
> >
> > This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike
> to
> > a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> > him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US
> but
> > I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
> >
> > I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors
> will.
> >
> > So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in
a
> > frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> > civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man
or
> > woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
> >
> > Thank you. And be quick.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[BMacLean]

I landed at a residential airstrip once and asked for a Diet Coke but all
they had was Diet Pepsi.

WA light (aka 18)

"John Shelton" > wrote in message
link.net...
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
> I have been contacted by a television production company creating a series
> on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I gave
> them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can
meet
> their parameters.
>
> It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with something.
>
> So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call it)
> conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the
sailplanes.
> I will get the camera ship.
>
> I need the story.
>
> This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike
to
> a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US
but
> I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
>
> I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors
will.
>
> So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in a
> frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man or
> woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
>
> Thank you. And be quick.
>
>
>

[BMacLean]

I don't like Diet Pepsi but managed to get through it so I thought I was
very brave in a tough situation.

"John Shelton" > wrote in message
link.net...
> Was there a guy on the front porch playing a banjo?
>
> If so, you were in the wrong story.
>
> "BMacLean" > wrote in message
> news:iCt4c.6200$wg.6099@okepread01...
> > I landed at a residential airstrip once and asked for a Diet Coke but
all
> > they had was Diet Pepsi.
> >
> > WA light (aka 18)
> >
> > "John Shelton" > wrote in message
> > link.net...
> > > Ladies and Gentlemen:
> > >
> > > I have been contacted by a television production company creating a
> series
> > > on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I
> gave
> > > them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can
> > meet
> > > their parameters.
> > >
> > > It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with
> something.
> > >
> > > So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call
> it)
> > > conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> > > situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the
> > sailplanes.
> > > I will get the camera ship.
> > >
> > > I need the story.
> > >
> > > This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to
hitchhike
> > to
> > > a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money
on
> > > him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the
US
> > but
> > > I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
> > >
> > > I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors
> > will.
> > >
> > > So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out
in
> a
> > > frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> > > civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man
> or
> > > woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
> > >
> > > Thank you. And be quick.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Steve]

I vote for the Whorehouse story line !


"John Shelton" > wrote in message
link.net...
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
> I have been contacted by a television production company creating a series
> on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I gave
> them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can
meet
> their parameters.
>
> It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with something.
>
> So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call it)
> conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the
sailplanes.
> I will get the camera ship.
>
> I need the story.
>
> This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike
to
> a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US
but
> I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
>
> I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors
will.
>
> So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in a
> frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man or
> woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
>
> Thank you. And be quick.
>
>
>

[Reuben]

John,


How about a ground crew that makes a wrong turn, have a flat, realize
they left the jack at home, find that the spare is flat, drink all
their water, nearly die of dehydration before they realize that there
is beer in the cooler and then dump out all the ice to make shade out
the cooler (because they are hot), only to be rescued by a hermit
miner who feeds them donkey jerky for weeks, before they get the
courage to hike out with their rescue coming on highway 395 with the
realization that they were lost on the other side of Randsburg, CA.

Reuben


"John Shelton" > wrote in message . net>...
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
> I have been contacted by a television production company creating a series
> on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I gave
> them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can meet
> their parameters.
>
> It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with something.
>
> So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call it)
> conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the sailplanes.
> I will get the camera ship.
>
> I need the story.
>
> This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike to
> a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US but
> I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
>
> I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors will.
>
> So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in a
> frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man or
> woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
>
> Thank you. And be quick.

[Liam Finley]

How about the PW-5 pilot who landed out and was raped by a bull?

[Mark James Boyd]

In article >,
Liam Finley > wrote:
>How about the PW-5 pilot who landed out and was raped by a bull?

Dang, John, how about convincing them to make it
a comedy instead? Topless gal passenger in the front during sightseeing,
mile high glider club (kinda bumpy), the ol' towpilot who
makes off with the wives 'cause he can always "get it up,"
geeky dorkboy with the latest gadgets, the crowd of old
farts watching the launches and telling about how they used to
fly 500km in a 1-26 in a snowstorm both ways uphill...
then leaning over to adjust the cholostemy bag...
Guy tries to auto-launch using a motorcycle...

More gags than I Love Lucy...

The comedy would be 1000% better than some stupid, unrealistic
tale of some loner sailpilot caught in the middle of nowhere...

Sorry to rain on that parade, but "Dances with Wolves" was
a boner, loner, boring film...if he flew a glider it
wouldn't have saved it...
--

------------+
Mark Boyd
Avenal, California, USA

[Bob Johnson]

Joe Lincon's walkout. He's already written the script. In the annals of
Soaring Magazine.

Good luck with your project --

BJ

John Shelton wrote:
>
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
> I have been contacted by a television production company creating a series
> on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I gave
> them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can meet
> their parameters.
>
> It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with something.
>
> So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call it)
> conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the sailplanes.
> I will get the camera ship.
>
> I need the story.
>
> This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike to
> a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US but
> I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
>
> I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors will.
>
> So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in a
> frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man or
> woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
>
> Thank you. And be quick.

[John Shelton]

I'm the guy I referred to that had to hike in to a dress shop. I did not
mention that while there, I tried on a nice little taffeta number that would
have gone perfect with a bag I had at home.

"BMacLean" > wrote in message
news:z0u4c.6202$wg.1828@okepread01...
> I don't like Diet Pepsi but managed to get through it so I thought I was
> very brave in a tough situation.
>
> "John Shelton" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> > Was there a guy on the front porch playing a banjo?
> >
> > If so, you were in the wrong story.
> >
> > "BMacLean" > wrote in message
> > news:iCt4c.6200$wg.6099@okepread01...
> > > I landed at a residential airstrip once and asked for a Diet Coke but
> all
> > > they had was Diet Pepsi.
> > >
> > > WA light (aka 18)
> > >
> > > "John Shelton" > wrote in message
> > > link.net...
> > > > Ladies and Gentlemen:
> > > >
> > > > I have been contacted by a television production company creating a
> > series
> > > > on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media
I
> > gave
> > > > them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we
can
> > > meet
> > > > their parameters.
> > > >
> > > > It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with
> > something.
> > > >
> > > > So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they
call
> > it)
> > > > conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a
survival
> > > > situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the
> > > sailplanes.
> > > > I will get the camera ship.
> > > >
> > > > I need the story.
> > > >
> > > > This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to
> hitchhike
> > > to
> > > > a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no
money
> on
> > > > him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in
the
> US
> > > but
> > > > I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
> > > >
> > > > I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the
actors
> > > will.
> > > >
> > > > So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out
> in
> > a
> > > > frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> > > > civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser
man
> > or
> > > > woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
> > > >
> > > > Thank you. And be quick.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[wsburhen]

Seriously- what about the guy (retired airline pilot, i think) flying
his daughter's 1-26 in florida that went into the bottom of a cu-nim,
and then after a few fairly violent "technical difficulties" fell out
the bottom minus a wing, and survived...........and he wasn't wearing
a chute. the glider w/passenger at this point dropped into some
dense/tall trees, then brush, and the guy walked away. It was in
"soaring" in the mid '90's, and told in two parellel narratives, one
from the paniced tow pilot who saw one wing drop out of the cloud into
a lake on a golf course, and the other from the pilot "riding" the
rest of the 1-26 to the ground. One of the most amazing (good)
accident outcomes.

[John W]

My memory is fuzzy but ... there was a story in a John Joss(?) book
called _Soar America_ (?) from the days of free distance tasks. Some
pilot in a comp near Chicago (?) got caught up in the leading edge of
a front or squall line and got swept along for some sort of record (?)
distance to a rainy landing in some unknown place, eventually
determined to be Indiana or Ohio (?). The distance he flew was the
result of survival decisions. Perhaps something like that could be
folded into a Wild West story.

John Joss had that excellent wild west soaring adventure book, _Sierra
Sierra_ , about a record distance flight from Seattle to Death Valley.
The moment I read it I thought it'd be a good movie. It sure had a
Top Gun feel to it. I saw this book for sale at Soar Minden in 2001.

I also recall some of the Joseph Lincoln writings, for example,
_Soaring for Diamonds_, having an exotic feel, like the record/badge
attempts around the Big Bend of Texas.

Good Luck,
John


"John Shelton" > wrote in message . net>...
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
> I have been contacted by a television production company creating a series
> on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I gave
> them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can meet
> their parameters.
>
> It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with something.
>
> So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call it)
> conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the sailplanes.
> I will get the camera ship.
>
> I need the story.
>
> This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike to
> a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US but
> I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
>
> I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors will.
>
> So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in a
> frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man or
> woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
>
> Thank you. And be quick.

[Tim Ward]

"John Shelton" > wrote in message
. net>...
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
> I have been contacted by a television production company creating a
series
> on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I
gave
> them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can
meet
> their parameters.
>
> It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with something.
>
> So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call
it)
> conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the
sailplanes.
> I will get the camera ship.
>
> I need the story.
>
> This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike
to
> a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US
but
> I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
>
> I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors
will.
>
> So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in a
> frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man or
> woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
>
> Thank you. And be quick.

How about a 500 km triangle race somewhere in the great basin (Tonopah?)
between a 4WD vehicle and a sailplane?
Put the turnpoints somewhere fairly remote.
The camera on the 4WD lets the viewers see the ruggedness of the terrain up
close.
On a booming day, though, it's going to look too easy in the sailplane.

Tim Ward

[BTIZ]

wasn't there a story a few years back.. same idea.. the glider pilot
launched in the Ohio area in front of a fast moving storm and landed near
Cape Cod Mass.. he was going for distance... he got it.. and with no crew it
was time to rent a large Uhaul truck and fabricate a cradle to hold the
wings and fuselage to get it back home.

Not really a land out survival issue, but some technical issues to resolve

BT

"John W" > wrote in message
om...
> My memory is fuzzy but ... there was a story in a John Joss(?) book
> called _Soar America_ (?) from the days of free distance tasks. Some
> pilot in a comp near Chicago (?) got caught up in the leading edge of
> a front or squall line and got swept along for some sort of record (?)
> distance to a rainy landing in some unknown place, eventually
> determined to be Indiana or Ohio (?). The distance he flew was the
> result of survival decisions. Perhaps something like that could be
> folded into a Wild West story.
>
> John Joss had that excellent wild west soaring adventure book, _Sierra
> Sierra_ , about a record distance flight from Seattle to Death Valley.
> The moment I read it I thought it'd be a good movie. It sure had a
> Top Gun feel to it. I saw this book for sale at Soar Minden in 2001.
>
> I also recall some of the Joseph Lincoln writings, for example,
> _Soaring for Diamonds_, having an exotic feel, like the record/badge
> attempts around the Big Bend of Texas.
>
> Good Luck,
> John
>
>
> "John Shelton" > wrote in message
. net>...
> > Ladies and Gentlemen:
> >
> > I have been contacted by a television production company creating a
series
> > on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I
gave
> > them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can
meet
> > their parameters.
> >
> > It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with
something.
> >
> > So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call
it)
> > conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> > situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the
sailplanes.
> > I will get the camera ship.
> >
> > I need the story.
> >
> > This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike
to
> > a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> > him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US
but
> > I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
> >
> > I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors
will.
> >
> > So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in
a
> > frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> > civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man
or
> > woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
> >
> > Thank you. And be quick.

[BPattonsoa]

>wasn't there a story a few years back.. same idea.. the glider pilot
>launched in the Ohio area in front of a fast moving storm and landed near
>Cape Cod Mass.. he

There was a German student who, in the very early 70's spent a summer at
Pearblossom. He had use of a Libille and would fly out as far as he could go,
tie the glider down and hitchhike back to get the trailer, get the glider and
do it again. He had some interesting adventures in the wilds of Nevada. You
could do a weekly show on his adventures, most on the ground.

Bruce Patton

[Bob Korves]

During the 1987 regionals at Minden a pilot (Jerry Hartshorn??) was flying
north above a broken towering cumulus cloud base near Air Sailing. He
finally reached the end of the cloud canyons with no way to go further
ahead. He turned around to retreat and clouds were blocking that direction,
too. He was completely encircled by clouds. He then circled "until my
wheel started rolling". He had landed on a mountain top near a small pond,
but being above cloud base for so long (and still above cloud base!) was not
sure exactly where he was (this was before GPS). The glider and pilot were
unhurt and the pilot was able to contact an airliner to share his
predicament. He spent the night in the glider, with it raining most of the
time. He used his parachute for insulation. Finally, by the end of the
following evening, he was lifted out by a helicopter, after they finally
figured out where he was. The next three days were spent unsuccessfully
trying to get the trailer to the ship in thunderstorm and flash flood
conditions. The glider was finally retrieved by helicopter, IIRC. True
story.
-Bob Korves

"John Shelton" > wrote in message
link.net...
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
> I have been contacted by a television production company creating a series
> on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I gave
> them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can
meet
> their parameters.
>
> It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with something.
>
> So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call it)
> conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the
sailplanes.
> I will get the camera ship.
>
> I need the story.
>
> This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike
to
> a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US
but
> I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
>
> I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors
will.
>
> So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in a
> frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man or
> woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
>
> Thank you. And be quick.
>
>
>

[John Shelton]

Now, Bob, that is a story that can be twisted around enough to show of the
sport. I will see if they will go for that.


"Bob Korves" > wrote in message
...
> During the 1987 regionals at Minden a pilot (Jerry Hartshorn??) was flying
> north above a broken towering cumulus cloud base near Air Sailing. He
> finally reached the end of the cloud canyons with no way to go further
> ahead. He turned around to retreat and clouds were blocking that
direction,
> too. He was completely encircled by clouds. He then circled "until my
> wheel started rolling". He had landed on a mountain top near a small
pond,
> but being above cloud base for so long (and still above cloud base!) was
not
> sure exactly where he was (this was before GPS). The glider and pilot
were
> unhurt and the pilot was able to contact an airliner to share his
> predicament. He spent the night in the glider, with it raining most of
the
> time. He used his parachute for insulation. Finally, by the end of the
> following evening, he was lifted out by a helicopter, after they finally
> figured out where he was. The next three days were spent unsuccessfully
> trying to get the trailer to the ship in thunderstorm and flash flood
> conditions. The glider was finally retrieved by helicopter, IIRC. True
> story.
> -Bob Korves
>
> "John Shelton" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> > Ladies and Gentlemen:
> >
> > I have been contacted by a television production company creating a
series
> > on adventure sports. They were very impressed with the crappy media I
gave
> > them about soaring and would like to include an "expedition" if we can
> meet
> > their parameters.
> >
> > It is Friday afternoon and I have until Monday to come up with
something.
> >
> > So, put on your thinking hats: Do you know of an expedition (they call
it)
> > conducted with a sailplane that went wrong and resulted in a survival
> > situation? It will be re-enacted. I have the actors. I have the
> sailplanes.
> > I will get the camera ship.
> >
> > I need the story.
> >
> > This will not be someone losing their yaw string and having to hitchhike
> to
> > a dress shop. It will not be JJ landing at a whorehouse with no money on
> > him. We are talking SURVIVAL. They will probably want to shoot in the US
> but
> > I did not ask if the story had to be an American story.
> >
> > I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors
> will.
> >
> > So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in
a
> > frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> > civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man
or
> > woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
> >
> > Thank you. And be quick.
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[John H. Campbell]

>My memory is fuzzy but ... there was a story in a John Joss(?) book
>Some pilot in a comp near Chicago (?) got caught up in...

Jack Lambie (RIP). SGU 1-19. "My storm flight over Chicago". During an
Intercollegiate contest with Purdue.

>John Joss had that excellent wild west soaring adventure book, _Sierra
>Sierra_ ... The moment I read it I thought it'd be a good movie.

Ditto. The fantasy record flight has been beaten in reality by Ohlman.

[John H. Campbell]

>There was a German student who, in the very early 70's spent a summer at
>Pearblossom. He had use of a Libille and would fly out as far as he could
>go, tie the glider down and hitchhike back to get the trailer...

Sounds like Peter Reichelt (?), who also flew his Phoebus B in Santa Ana
wave out to Catalina Island and landed there. Similar loner
endurance/wanderer stories about the French pilot (later a fixture in the
Sierras) who went border to border with his Libelle by auto-launch from
wherever he landed. The guy who went coast-to-coast alone in his 1-23 in
the 1960s

[John H. Campbell]

>Finally, by the end of the following evening, he was lifted out by a
helicopter,

Bob Whelan's "Cloud dancing" tells the story of the Colorado pilot in an
Astir CS that got trapped on the wrong side of a ridge and was retrieved by
helicopter. I used to have a share in that glider.

[Shawn Curry]

John H. Campbell wrote:
>>Finally, by the end of the following evening, he was lifted out by a
>
> helicopter,
>
> Bob Whelan's "Cloud dancing" tells the story of the Colorado pilot in an
> Astir CS that got trapped on the wrong side of a ridge and was retrieved by
> helicopter. I used to have a share in that glider.

G6?

[Mark James Boyd]

John Shelton > wrote:
>> > I wish I was getting paid but I am not. On the other hand, the actors
>> will.

Well, it seems like the most common exciting part of gliding which is
"adventure" is thermalling with a bijillion other gliders.

And apparently for contests this is a "normal" occurance. Between this
and using a two place glider, there is excitement and there is
also some interaction (front and back pilots). Or maybe use a
Caproni (side-by-side). Or a jet launched Caproni :)))


--

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Mark Boyd
Avenal, California, USA

[Shaber CJ]

>Sounds like Peter Reichelt (?), who also flew his Phoebus B in Santa Ana
>wave out to Catalina Island and landed there.

Did he aero tow back?

[John Shelton]

I disagree with you totally. I know how hard it is to find out what people
really will buy when everyone has an opinion and a right to state it. Comic
commercials are death. Nobody ever remembers the product. Irritating
commercials are the best. It defies what the individual thinks. Nobody came
to these conclusions overnight. It took years of failure to find success.

We are not seeking an advertisement anyway. We are seeking to find those
people in the population who might be thrilled to do what we really do. We
can, of course, light a large hoop on fire and fly through it but once the
kid shows up at the strip and finds out that isn't soaring, we lose him and
the money we spent on the burning hoops.

We have to show what we do in the best light. That is how anything is sold
honestly. Every endeavor has its required parts and its rewards. Mountain
biking requires you to climb hills and it is seldom shown. Then you get to
haul ass down hill and be a cover shot on Outside.

"The comedy would be 1000% better than some stupid, unrealistic
tale of some loner sailpilot caught in the middle of nowhere...

Sorry to rain on that parade, but "Dances with Wolves" was
a boner, loner, boring film...if he flew a glider it
wouldn't have saved it..."

The above quote, while quite uninformed, is a personal anecdote and
worthless. Nobody is going to buy your non-existent comedy, produce it or
put it on television and we don't have the money to do it ourselves...thus
me leaching off of them for us.

Dances With Wolves was enjoyed by a lot of people and it made a ton of
money. It even made yours, didn't it? If Kevin Costner made a glider movie,
people would be standing in line to get lessons from you even though you
don't fly boring cross countries or boring contests.

The people who want this information do lots of things about loners in the
middle of nowhere. Mountain clibers. Women sailing solo around the world.
Boring loners like Charles Lindbergh. That kind of goofball. If I told you
who it was, you would know exactly who they are and if I gave them your
resume and your opinion, they would laugh their asses off...right before
they threw me out on my butt. They have made a fortune at just this sort of
thing because there is an element of humanity that digs this kind of stuff.

I had a show put together that would have rocked. I lost the sponsor. It was
for a two hour show on Fox to be shown 10 times. It was going to be a boring
contest in the boring White Mountains. It would have made Top Gun look like
a wine tasting in Napa Valley. Everyone who saw it sat with their mouths
hanging open. And, it wasn't faked. It is what it's like when it's good.
That's the same stuff I sent them last Thursday to get a call on Friday
morning. Their socks were knocked off.

So, I would say your examples are completely wrong. Their efforts have made
millions of dollars, caught billions of eyeballs and we have made dick. When
you get the money, I will listen to you. That's Hollywood. Money talks,
anecdotal opinions walk.

Just my opinion.

[John Shelton]

Wait. You did see the buffalo hunt sequence. Right?

[Mark James Boyd]

John Shelton > wrote:
>I disagree with you totally. I know how hard it is to find out what people
>really will buy when everyone has an opinion and a right to state it. Comic
>commercials are death. Nobody ever remembers the product. Irritating
>commercials are the best. It defies what the individual thinks. Nobody came
>to these conclusions overnight. It took years of failure to find success.

>you get the money, I will listen to you. That's Hollywood. Money talks,
>anecdotal opinions walk.

So why did you ask us for our thoughts? Did you think this was
the "billion dollar screenwriters newsgroup"? <G>

But all of us know you did Pez, and we gotta wonder why
YOU did this as a comedy instead of just deadpan serious.
I think a lot of us looked up the cartoon for the chuckle...

Geez, John, sit on a whoopie cushion once in a while...
I'll tell you, if I see you at the gliderport and catch you
right before you sit down for lunch, we're gonna have
one helluva a laugh... ;O
--

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Mark Boyd
Avenal, California, USA

[John Shelton]

I did not ask for thoughts. I asked for stories. I have been thinking about
this for a very long time. I was caught unawares by their request.

[Eric Greenwell]

Mark James Boyd wrote:

> John Shelton > wrote:
>
>>I disagree with you totally. I know how hard it is to find out what people
>>really will buy when everyone has an opinion and a right to state it. Comic
>>commercials are death. Nobody ever remembers the product. Irritating
>>commercials are the best. It defies what the individual thinks. Nobody came
>>to these conclusions overnight. It took years of failure to find success.
>
>
>>you get the money, I will listen to you. That's Hollywood. Money talks,
>>anecdotal opinions walk.
>
>
> So why did you ask us for our thoughts? Did you think this was
> the "billion dollar screenwriters newsgroup"? <G>
>
> But all of us know you did Pez, and we gotta wonder why
> YOU did this as a comedy instead of just deadpan serious.
> I think a lot of us looked up the cartoon for the chuckle...

Come on, Mark, you know this one: Pez is for us, not the folks outside
the sport. Pez is entertainment for the already hooked(make that the
_really_ hooked. You have to be in the sport for several years to really
know what's going on with Pez.

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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

[Mark James Boyd]

Eric Greenwell > wrote:
>Mark James Boyd wrote:
>
>> But all of us know you did Pez, and we gotta wonder why
>> YOU did this as a comedy instead of just deadpan serious.
>> I think a lot of us looked up the cartoon for the chuckle...
>
>Come on, Mark, you know this one: Pez is for us, not the folks outside
>the sport. Pez is entertainment for the already hooked(make that the
>_really_ hooked. You have to be in the sport for several years to really
>know what's going on with Pez.

Yes, probably true. I suppose I laughed so damn hard at Pez I was
secretly hoping John would make "Pez, the Movie."

The "Caddyshack's" work because a LOT of people know golf.
I guess "Down Periscope," the comedy about the submarine,
didn't do well because the subject matter wasn't widely known.

OK, OK, I get the point...sigh...
--

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Mark Boyd
Avenal, California, USA

[John Shelton]

Well, you've got that goin' far you...


"Mark James Boyd" > wrote in message
news:40576a0b$1@darkstar...
> Eric Greenwell > wrote:
> >Mark James Boyd wrote:
> >
> >> But all of us know you did Pez, and we gotta wonder why
> >> YOU did this as a comedy instead of just deadpan serious.
> >> I think a lot of us looked up the cartoon for the chuckle...
> >
> >Come on, Mark, you know this one: Pez is for us, not the folks outside
> >the sport. Pez is entertainment for the already hooked(make that the
> >_really_ hooked. You have to be in the sport for several years to really
> >know what's going on with Pez.
>
> Yes, probably true. I suppose I laughed so damn hard at Pez I was
> secretly hoping John would make "Pez, the Movie."
>
> The "Caddyshack's" work because a LOT of people know golf.
> I guess "Down Periscope," the comedy about the submarine,
> didn't do well because the subject matter wasn't widely known.
>
> OK, OK, I get the point...sigh...
> --
>
> ------------+
> Mark Boyd
> Avenal, California, USA

[Eric Coleson]

"John Shelton" > wrote in message . net>...
> Ladies and Gentlemen:
>
> (Snip)
>
> So either come up with an adventure or go out this weekend, land out in a
> frozen wasteland, survive by eating your parachute, hike out to
> civilization, loose two fingers to frostbite and come home a wiser man or
> woman. (Do women get wiser or is that just they are?)
>

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E.