Last season for BLIPS?

[Stewart Kissel]

I was reviewing the Dr Jack site and his subscription
message, he sounds as if the workload means this may
be the final season. He sent out the message for those
like me who have become quite dependant on them to
beware. Let's take advantage of them while they still
exist.

[Bob Mowry]

Why hasn't the SSA struck a deal with Dr Jack regarding running this
service for its members? I don't know about the rest of you but I
check Dr Jack's site about 5 - 10 times more frequently than
www.ssa.org. I pretty much check it every day that looks soarable
here in Pennsylvania just for fun - even when flying is out of the
question for me that day. I think the SSA is missing a great
opportunity to service its members.

Maybe this service will be part of the redesigned SSA web site? And
maybe the SSA dues increase last year was part of covering Dr Jack's
well deserved royalty stream :)

-bob

[303pilot]

"Bob Mowry" > wrote in message
om...
> Why hasn't the SSA struck a deal with Dr Jack regarding running this
> service for its members? I don't know about the rest of you but I
> check Dr Jack's site about 5 - 10 times more frequently than
> www.ssa.org.
> Maybe this service will be part of the redesigned SSA web site? And
> maybe the SSA dues increase last year was part of covering Dr Jack's
> well deserved royalty stream :)
>
> -bob

Capital idea! It'd be a great place for ads also.
SSA, are you listening?

[Marc Ramsey]

"303pilot" <brentUNDERSCOREsullivanATbmcDOTcom> wrote...
> "Bob Mowry" > wrote...
> > Why hasn't the SSA struck a deal with Dr Jack regarding running this
> > service for its members? I don't know about the rest of you but I
> > check Dr Jack's site about 5 - 10 times more frequently than
> > www.ssa.org.
> > Maybe this service will be part of the redesigned SSA web site? And
> > maybe the SSA dues increase last year was part of covering Dr Jack's
> > well deserved royalty stream :)
> >
> > -bob
>
> Capital idea! It'd be a great place for ads also.
> SSA, are you listening?

According to my SSA Director (and others), there have been serious
discussions between the SSA and Dr. Jack about this. Since nothing seems to
have resulted from these discussions, I think we can safely assume that the
parties disagreed on the terms under which such a deal could be arranged.
So I can't answer "Why hasn't the SSA struck a deal with Dr Jack", but
clearly the SSA and Dr. Jack did try...

Marc

[solo89]

(Bob Mowry) wrote in message >...
> Why hasn't the SSA struck a deal with Dr Jack regarding running this
> service for its members? I don't know about the rest of you but I
> check Dr Jack's site about 5 - 10 times more frequently than
> www.ssa.org. I pretty much check it every day that looks soarable
> here in Pennsylvania just for fun - even when flying is out of the
> question for me that day. I think the SSA is missing a great
> opportunity to service its members.
>
> Maybe this service will be part of the redesigned SSA web site? And
> maybe the SSA dues increase last year was part of covering Dr Jack's
> well deserved royalty stream :)
>
> -bob

I'm a newbie to the sport. I'm a member of SSA because my club
requires membership. I enjoy the magazine.

The website is pretty stale. I look at the classifieds and at contest
results when someone I know is competing. Personally, I think the
website leaves a lot to be desired. I anxiously await the new site.

BLIPMAPS are worth more to me than what I know that I get from SSA. I
phrase it that way because I believe I get more from SSA than I'm
aware of.

The soaring community needs to support Dr. Jack. It would be best if
that support came through the SSA. Again, I'm new to all of this. I'm
still trying to figure out if I believe the BLIPMAPS. I'd estimate
that I look at BLIPMAPS at least 20 times for every time I look at
SSA.

FWIW
Doug

[Mark James Boyd]

>I'm a newbie to the sport. I'm a member of SSA because my club
>requires membership. I enjoy the magazine.

I'm only a member of organizations that provide a magazine or
newletter (except one :)

>The website is pretty stale. I look at the classifieds and at contest
>results when someone I know is competing. Personally, I think the
>website leaves a lot to be desired. I anxiously await the new site.

Websites are just a collection of files, for the most part.
Not really like a new TV show with original content.
I for one am happy with the website as a "dictionary" type resource,
and using the magazine for "hot new topics"

>
>BLIPMAPS are worth more to me than what I know that I get from SSA. I
>phrase it that way because I believe I get more from SSA than I'm
>aware of.

If not for SSA, I'd guess there would be NO
glider ops at public airports. I'm a member for this, and
the mag of course.

>
>The soaring community needs to support Dr. Jack. It would be best if
>that support came through the SSA. Again, I'm new to all of this. I'm
>still trying to figure out if I believe the BLIPMAPS. I'd estimate
>that I look at BLIPMAPS at least 20 times for every time I look at
>SSA.

Dr. Jack BLIPs are gonna go bye bye no matter what. His
time is more valuable than money. He's written as much. If
they survive, then like the TIPs somebody else is just
gonna take them over and do the maintenance. That person
if they do advertising on the site too might make
a few bucks...I hope it goes this way...

Dr. Jack developed the products. Maintaining them is
just not his area of happiness...
--

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Mark Boyd
Avenal, California, USA

[JohnD]

Isn't there an entrepreneur out there who can make this work?
Well....maybe a semi-retired one?

As far as SSA doing it, well.... that would probably doom it to
failure. They have their hands full right now it seems. This needs an
entrepreneurial attitude which is rarely present at an organization
such as SSA.

I know I would pay an annual fee for access to this site and so would
a whole lot of other people. The information is fantastic.

[Eric Greenwell]

JohnD wrote:
> Isn't there an entrepreneur out there who can make this work?
> Well....maybe a semi-retired one?
>
> As far as SSA doing it, well.... that would probably doom it to
> failure. They have their hands full right now it seems. This needs an
> entrepreneurial attitude which is rarely present at an organization
> such as SSA.
>
> I know I would pay an annual fee for access to this site and so would
> a whole lot of other people. The information is fantastic.

But isn't that what is happening? The Blipmap site say subscriptions
start in the middle of May, but "guinea pigs" ("early adopters", "beta
testers") are encouraged to try it now.
--
Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly

Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

[Stewart Kissel]

Snip

All this is by way of letting my users know that they
should not expect that DrJack will definitely continue
beyond the end of this soaring season

Snip



At 01:30 04 May 2004, Eric Greenwell wrote:
>JohnD wrote:
>> Isn't there an entrepreneur out there who can make
>>this work?
>> Well....maybe a semi-retired one?
>>
>> As far as SSA doing it, well.... that would probably
>>doom it to
>> failure. They have their hands full right now it seems.
>>This needs an
>> entrepreneurial attitude which is rarely present at
>>an organization
>> such as SSA.
>>
>> I know I would pay an annual fee for access to this
>>site and so would
>> a whole lot of other people. The information is fantastic.
>
>But isn't that what is happening? The Blipmap site
>say subscriptions
>start in the middle of May, but 'guinea pigs' ('early
>adopters', 'beta
>testers') are encouraged to try it now.
>--
>Change 'netto' to 'net' to email me directly
>
>Eric Greenwell
>Washington State
>USA
>
>

[Stewart Kissel]

He has since updated on his thoughts, look under 'Dr
Jack Must Die' on his site. He will see how this season
goes, however if there is little subscription activity
and the hassle factor stays high-it will be an easy
choice to pull the plug.




At 03:18 04 May 2004, Stewart Kissel wrote:
>Snip
>
>All this is by way of letting my users know that they
>should not expect that DrJack will definitely continue
>beyond the end of this soaring season
>
>Snip
>
>
>
>At 01:30 04 May 2004, Eric Greenwell wrote:
>>JohnD wrote:
>>> Isn't there an entrepreneur out there who can make
>>>this work?
>>> Well....maybe a semi-retired one?
>>>
>>> As far as SSA doing it, well.... that would probably
>>>doom it to
>>> failure. They have their hands full right now it seems.
>>>This needs an
>>> entrepreneurial attitude which is rarely present at
>>>an organization
>>> such as SSA.
>>>
>>> I know I would pay an annual fee for access to this
>>>site and so would
>>> a whole lot of other people. The information is fantastic.
>>
>>But isn't that what is happening? The Blipmap site
>>say subscriptions
>>start in the middle of May, but 'guinea pigs' ('early
>>adopters', 'beta
>>testers') are encouraged to try it now.
>>--
>>Change 'netto' to 'net' to email me directly
>>
>>Eric Greenwell
>>Washington State
>>USA
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

[Gary Evans]

Anyone that cares about the continuation of Dr Jacks
forecasting system had best get out the check book
and subscribe. It would also be a good idea to stop
the requests for more bells and whistles as nothing
is going to kill it sooner than a continuing high work
load.
Lets not kill the goose that laided a golden egg!

In case you haven't read 'Dr Jack must die' here is
the link.
http://www.drjack.info/INFO/drjack_must_die.html




At 03:36 04 May 2004, Stewart Kissel wrote:
>He has since updated on his thoughts, look under 'Dr
>Jack Must Die' on his site. He will see how this season
>goes, however if there is little subscription activity
>and the hassle factor stays high-it will be an easy
>choice to pull the plug.
>
>
>
>
>At 03:18 04 May 2004, Stewart Kissel wrote:
>>Snip
>>
>>All this is by way of letting my users know that they
>>should not expect that DrJack will definitely continue
>>beyond the end of this soaring season
>>
>>Snip
>>
>>
>>
>>At 01:30 04 May 2004, Eric Greenwell wrote:
>>>JohnD wrote:
>>>> Isn't there an entrepreneur out there who can make
>>>>this work?
>>>> Well....maybe a semi-retired one?
>>>>
>>>> As far as SSA doing it, well.... that would probably
>>>>doom it to
>>>> failure. They have their hands full right now it seems.
>>>>This needs an
>>>> entrepreneurial attitude which is rarely present at
>>>>an organization
>>>> such as SSA.
>>>>
>>>> I know I would pay an annual fee for access to this
>>>>site and so would
>>>> a whole lot of other people. The information is fantastic.
>>>
>>>But isn't that what is happening? The Blipmap site
>>>say subscriptions
>>>start in the middle of May, but 'guinea pigs' ('early
>>>adopters', 'beta
>>>testers') are encouraged to try it now.
>>>--
>>>Change 'netto' to 'net' to email me directly
>>>
>>>Eric Greenwell
>>>Washington State
>>>USA
>>>
>>>
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