Tow hook for 182

[Ramy[_2_]]

Our club is looking for a tow hook for 182, in particular Schweizer (partnumber 0500228-2) which is the STC'd approved hook for the Cessna 182. Any pointers are welcome.

Thanks

Ramy

[Darryl Ramm]

Pretty sure there have been Tost hooks installed on C182. We really can’t do better that Schweitzer crap?

[Tony[_5_]]

Call K&L, they will be happy to sell you one. www.klsoaring.com

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On Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:25:26 UTC+13, Ramy wrote:
> Our club is looking for a tow hook for 182, in particular Schweizer (partnumber 0500228-2) which is the STC'd approved hook for the Cessna 182. Any pointers are welcome.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ramy

We're in the process of certifying (in New Zealand) a tubular mount with attached Tost E85 tow hook for a C182. The design is derived from AC43.13-2B, Figure 8-12, and is manufactured from 1" 4130 tube. You'd need to obtain a field approval, however we've done all the hard work (design calculations and manufacturing drawings). This might give you a head start if you're interested in a Tost installation.

There is also a Canadian Serial STC that was prepared for their Air Patrol, that uses an alloy box section to mount the Tost hook. If that provides a better option, ask for contact details.

The Schweizer/Cessna tow hook is subject to an AD (DCA/ROLE/2) in New Zealand, and must be placarded "Glider towing prohibited". Background information is lost in antiquity, although there is text stating "Due to possible strength inadequacy and incompatability with glider tow rope attachment rings....".

David

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Dmoo,
Can you share the info on the Canadian STC TOW Hook for C182 you mentioned earlier?

Paul

[Dan Daly[_2_]]

On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 3:07:10 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> Dmoo,
> Can you share the info on the Canadian STC TOW Hook for C182 you mentioned earlier?
>
> Paul

http://aircadetleague.com/the-tow-plane-replacement-project-the-pacific-6/

Victoria Air Maintenance http://www.vicair.net/

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Hello David

What is the current status of certification process?

We have one Cessna 182 on our airfield and we are planning to buy next one and install the tow hook on it. I've looked for EASA STC but without any success. Is there any possibility to share your drawings and calculations?

Martin

[Roy B.]

The Schweizer towhook installation on the 182 is done upside down compared to the "normal" tailwheel install. So the whole "glider kiting" phobia issue does not apply. IMO in a dusty environment the Schweizer hook is a better & simpler solution than the Tost units. As previously noted, K&L has them. McFarlane used to sell a similar unit. Good luck.
ROY

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On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 12:25:26 AM UTC-5, Ramy wrote:
> Our club is looking for a tow hook for 182, in particular Schweizer (partnumber 0500228-2) which is the STC'd approved hook for the Cessna 182. Any pointers are welcome.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ramy

When the US National Championships were held in Wichita, KS in 1961, Cessna aircraft (also in Wichita) provided a small fleet of towplanes. After that event, the Schweizer tow releases were a given Cessna part numbers and were added to the type design of the aircraft as an optional part. Therefore, it is part of the certification for the airplane; no additional paperwork is required.

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On Monday, 19 March 2018 03:41:01 UTC+13, wrote:
> Hello David
>
> What is the current status of certification process?
>
> We have one Cessna 182 on our airfield and we are planning to buy next one and install the tow hook on it. I've looked for EASA STC but without any success. Is there any possibility to share your drawings and calculations?
>
> Martin

We currently have a NZ Form 337 (Field Approval) on the 182/Tost tow hook. I need to check, and I understand the US/NZ Bilateral Agreement provides for US acceptance of NZ STC for Part 23 Airplanes.

Please allow me a couple of days to investigate; one way or another, I'm confident we can assist, either by completing a NZSTC, or supplying data to your DER for approval. Depending on your local FAA, it may even be permissible to assert compliance on the basis of AC43.13-2B, which presents a layout for a tow hook installation to a sheet metal airplane that we have used as the basis for our design.

First step. I'll work out how to post a couple of pictures.

David

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Hello David

Thank you for information. Maybe I didn't write it clear, but we are not under FAA but under EASA supervision. I've started to communicate with our civil aviation authority how to easiest approve some STC (or different solution) from NZ or from Canada.

Martin

[Dan Daly[_2_]]

On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 2:51:05 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> Hello David
>
> Thank you for information. Maybe I didn't write it clear, but we are not under FAA but under EASA supervision. I've started to communicate with our civil aviation authority how to easiest approve some STC (or different solution) from NZ or from Canada.
>
> Martin

EASA-Transport Canada bilateral agreement https://www.easa.europa.eu/document-library/bilateral-agreements/eu-canada .
Then download
TECHNICAL IMPLEMENTATION PROCEDURES FOR AIRWORTHINESS AND ENVIRONMENTAL CERTIFICATION Under The Agreement On Civil Aviation Safety Between The Government Of Canada And The European Union* Revision 18 September 2017

and look at page 26, transfer of an STC.

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On Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:25:26 UTC+13, Ramy wrote:
> Our club is looking for a tow hook for 182, in particular Schweizer (partnumber 0500228-2) which is the STC'd approved hook for the Cessna 182. Any pointers are welcome.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ramy

Can anybody tell me if the EASA/Canada Bilateral treats a "Serial" STC differently from a (non-serialised) STC. We recently spent a tidy sum having an additional serial number added to a SSTC (all aircraft involved being on the Canadian register). Further question, can a Canadian SSTC be amended to add aircraft not currently on the Canadian Register. Arcane questions I'm sure, but may assist our ability to support Ramy's enquiry.

David

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On Wednesday, 21 March 2018 19:51:05 UTC+13, wrote:
> Hello David
>
> Thank you for information. Maybe I didn't write it clear, but we are not under FAA but under EASA supervision. I've started to communicate with our civil aviation authority how to easiest approve some STC (or different solution) from NZ or from Canada.
>
> Martin

Martin

PM me dmoody365 at... and I'll get you some data for a first look
David

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On Wednesday, October 18, 2017 at 10:25:26 PM UTC-7, Ramy wrote:
> Our club is looking for a tow hook for 182, in particular Schweizer (partnumber 0500228-2) which is the STC'd approved hook for the Cessna 182. Any pointers are welcome.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ramy

You can use the 1250 kit from Pacific Aerial Tow Hooks https://pacificaerialtowhooks.com/

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SA220SO is the STC/

Did you have any luck with EASA?

Thanks,

Milan