View Full Version : MKIV Yaw String - the change, and a free offer
bumper[_4_]
October 28th 17, 05:33 PM
I posted before re Wings and Wheels' acquisition of the MKIV and Quiet Vent..
Some inside info:
Sean visited beautiful Minden, NV for training and to pick up manufacturing tools and fixtures. About half way through training, he was a little slow and being every bit as picky as me, rejecting about half. He says, "There is a lot to this!". I respond, "And such a little thing, the customer would never know." I was pleased at how fast he was catching on.
Several weeks later I call to see how things were going. Maybe sold, but the MKIV is still my baby. Sean assures me all is well, says he's changed the packaging and will send me a sample. When it arrives I see it's excellent quality, and packaging is nicer too.
Still you may have concerns, So if you purchase a MKIV or QV from W & W, and feel you didn't get your money's worth for whatever reason, just contact me and I'll refund your money up to the full purchase price, including shipping. Please note this is a limited time offer.
Okay, time's up!
Good Soaring!
bumper
October 28th 17, 07:29 PM
So Bumper, did Sean incorporate the rounded front leading edge as I suggested? To stop the dreaded microfiber cloth catch and subsequent early removal of the MkIV :)
CH ASW 27 & Ventus B (for sale)
jfitch
October 28th 17, 08:25 PM
On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 9:33:09 AM UTC-7, bumper wrote:
> I posted before re Wings and Wheels' acquisition of the MKIV and Quiet Vent.
bumper[_4_]
October 29th 17, 01:35 AM
On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-7, jfitch wrote:
> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 9:33:09 AM UTC-7, bumper wrote:
> > I posted before re Wings and Wheels' acquisition of the MKIV and Quiet Vent.
> >
> > Some inside info:
> >
> > Sean visited beautiful Minden, NV for training and to pick up manufacturing tools and fixtures. About half way through training, he was a little slow and being every bit as picky as me, rejecting about half. He says, "There is a lot to this!". I respond, "And such a little thing, the customer would never know." I was pleased at how fast he was catching on.
> >
> > Several weeks later I call to see how things were going. Maybe sold, but the MKIV is still my baby. Sean assures me all is well, says he's changed the packaging and will send me a sample. When it arrives I see it's excellent quality, and packaging is nicer too.
> >
> > Still you may have concerns, So if you purchase a MKIV or QV from W & W, and feel you didn't get your money's worth for whatever reason, just contact me and I'll refund your money up to the full purchase price, including shipping. Please note this is a limited time offer.
> >
> > Okay, time's up!
> >
> > Good Soaring!
> >
> > bumper
>
> Bumper you should outsource this to China. They will make them for $0.20, 200,000 to a container. The instructions may be a little funky and the cardboard packaging limp, but who cares if it points the wrong way?
>
> Then get the Trump administration to give you $1,000,000 in tax incentives to bring manufacturing back. Modern Business 101.
I thought about that, but then remembered how much I worried when my last glider came across the North Atlantic. Those shipping containers go overboard sometimes. From 2008 to 2013, 1679 containers were lost per year. With my luck, and your well meaning help, one of those would have had 200,000 MKIV's on it. Can you imagine what would happen to soaring as we know it without the MKIV?
Besides, each MKIV requires extensive programming and hands on training to insure it points the right way and doesn't wag it's tail too much - like my golden retriever, "Thumper" they tend to get excited, especially when you fly right. I just checked and none of the world's truly accomplished yaw string programmers speak Chinese or Chinglish. So I guess I'm out that million $$.
October 29th 17, 02:01 AM
MK IV question does the pointy end go forward(towards the nose) or the rounded edge?
October 29th 17, 02:04 AM
Bumper-
I recently purchased four sets of the Cobra ramp slide guides. Excellent design, easy installation and yada, yada, yada. You graciously included the MkIV yaw string, but I am hesitant to install it. You see, the last time I bought a computer, it was inflicted with the World's best-selling virus: Windows. This operating system seems to take over my computer whenever it wants in order to install an unwanted (and possibly unneeded) upgrade that invariably interferes with vitally needed software like Tetris and Solitaire.
Can you assure me that installation of the MkIV yawstring system is totally backwards compatible with my rudder pedals? I would rather not get a big surprise while attempting a forward slip into a tight field or determining which direction I should attempt to launch on a runway of less than 11,000 feet.
Is there an "Uninstall" app if I decide that the MkIV is somehow not to my liking? Does the MkIV app save my personal information to a database that might be hacked by nefarious hackers in Turkmenistan? (Assuming they actually achieve electricity.)
Darryl Ramm
October 29th 17, 02:45 AM
Bumper
My cup holder needs improvement. It needs a better retaining mechanism, smoother insertion of cups and longer life gimbal
mechanism. Any chance you could look at this now you have more free time?
October 29th 17, 03:03 AM
Bumper,
I'm having trouble finding people to help me rig my glider. What can you offer? Thanks, private owner.
bumper[_4_]
October 29th 17, 04:06 AM
On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 7:01:30 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> MK IV question does the pointy end go forward(towards the nose) or the rounded edge?
You need to do a test flight to see which way things go when you release the stick and take your feet off the rudder pedals. Most pilots will instinctively correct for any tendency for the glider to go out of control and into a non-recoverable flat spin or series of lomcovaks without much thought, so it's best to close your eyes for a minute or two to find out what she really wants to do without your help (this works in some relationships with the opposite sex as well).
Once, or if, you recover you can decide how many degrees offset from the centerline the pointy end of the MKIV should be. This is a handy way of correcting most any flight anomaly and can add as much as two points to your L/D.. Oh, when you open your eyes and the ship is in a stable, high speed tail slide, the MKIV should be installed backwards, rounded end towards the nose of the glider. On all properly behaving ships the pointy end goes forward - is that clear?
Thank you for asking.
Disclaimer: Since I no longer make the MKIV, my opinions carry no weight and are mostly gibberish or rubbish depending on who you ask. I'm spending all of my free time working on cup gimbels.
bumper[_4_]
October 29th 17, 04:17 AM
On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 8:03:49 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> Bumper,
> I'm having trouble finding people to help me rig my glider. What can you offer? Thanks, private owner.
Raxy,
I'd like to help, but I'm just not sure. If you are a cute female, I'd suggest wearing white shorts and a halter top or bikini. Most male glider pilots are quite shallow and easily sidetracked - you'll have no problem getting help with rigging.
Short, sort of related story: When I went in for spine surgery back in Feb (much better now), they were supposed to stay for two days. The admitting nurse asked what I was in for and I told her, "Elective gender reassignment and a hysterectomy". She found that amusing, and when she regained her composure, continue with the paperwork (no one else laughed, 'cept my wife). They did kick me out the same day though. After the surgery, wife whispers - you better check! No help on the ramp for me.
bumper[_4_]
October 29th 17, 04:32 AM
On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 7:04:19 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> Bumper-
>
> Can you assure me that installation of the MkIV yawstring system is totally backwards compatible with my rudder pedals?
No.
I'm computer illiterate. The MKIV has a lifetime lithium battery but it's just for the spec sheet, not hooked to anything. All the computations are done mechanically in the MKIV base with nano-gears, cams and levers. I bought a new WD 10 computer 6 months ago and those suckers left off the program that allows you to move all the stuff you never use hardly ever onto the new computer. So the new one is in my closet and I'm still using the old one and hoping it doesn't completely die or turn into an IED.
Scott Williams
October 29th 17, 02:56 PM
On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 11:32:09 PM UTC-5, bumper wrote:
> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 7:04:19 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> > Bumper-
> >
> > Can you assure me that installation of the MkIV yawstring system is totally backwards compatible with my rudder pedals?
>
>
> No.
>
> I'm computer illiterate. The MKIV has a lifetime lithium battery but it's just for the spec sheet, not hooked to anything. All the computations are done mechanically in the MKIV base with nano-gears, cams and levers. I bought a new WD 10 computer 6 months ago and those suckers left off the program that allows you to move all the stuff you never use hardly ever onto the new computer. So the new one is in my closet and I'm still using the old one and hoping it doesn't completely die or turn into an IED.
OMG,
I think I must have damaged my MKIV last year when I installed it. After reading these posts I now realize that all last season the calibration was dramatically skewed and responsible for inducing yaw. This induced yaw was an almost constant problem that I struggled with. No doubt, costing me many 1000 km diplomes.
Also, What is this "spec" sheet you speak of? Is it similar to these strange "directions" and "instructions" my wife is always hounding me about?
:-)
Dan Marotta
October 29th 17, 02:58 PM
I've often wondered why my MKIV yaw string behaves properly on my Stemme
when the engine is running.Â* Does the programming generate a feedback
signal opposite in phase and equal to the amplitude of the propeller
pulses?Â* How is the propeller pulse signal captured by the MKIV system?Â*
Does it read the alpha particle emissions of the proprietary yarn used
in the construction of the device?Â* What is the half life of the yarn?Â*
Etc...
On 10/28/2017 6:35 PM, bumper wrote:
> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-7, jfitch wrote:
>> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 9:33:09 AM UTC-7, bumper wrote:
>>> I posted before re Wings and Wheels' acquisition of the MKIV and Quiet Vent.
>>>
>>> Some inside info:
>>>
>>> Sean visited beautiful Minden, NV for training and to pick up manufacturing tools and fixtures. About half way through training, he was a little slow and being every bit as picky as me, rejecting about half. He says, "There is a lot to this!". I respond, "And such a little thing, the customer would never know." I was pleased at how fast he was catching on.
>>>
>>> Several weeks later I call to see how things were going. Maybe sold, but the MKIV is still my baby. Sean assures me all is well, says he's changed the packaging and will send me a sample. When it arrives I see it's excellent quality, and packaging is nicer too.
>>>
>>> Still you may have concerns, So if you purchase a MKIV or QV from W & W, and feel you didn't get your money's worth for whatever reason, just contact me and I'll refund your money up to the full purchase price, including shipping. Please note this is a limited time offer.
>>>
>>> Okay, time's up!
>>>
>>> Good Soaring!
>>>
>>> bumper
>> Bumper you should outsource this to China. They will make them for $0.20, 200,000 to a container. The instructions may be a little funky and the cardboard packaging limp, but who cares if it points the wrong way?
>>
>> Then get the Trump administration to give you $1,000,000 in tax incentives to bring manufacturing back. Modern Business 101.
> I thought about that, but then remembered how much I worried when my last glider came across the North Atlantic. Those shipping containers go overboard sometimes. From 2008 to 2013, 1679 containers were lost per year. With my luck, and your well meaning help, one of those would have had 200,000 MKIV's on it. Can you imagine what would happen to soaring as we know it without the MKIV?
>
> Besides, each MKIV requires extensive programming and hands on training to insure it points the right way and doesn't wag it's tail too much - like my golden retriever, "Thumper" they tend to get excited, especially when you fly right. I just checked and none of the world's truly accomplished yaw string programmers speak Chinese or Chinglish. So I guess I'm out that million $$.
>
>
>
--
Dan, 5J
CindyB[_2_]
October 30th 17, 09:58 PM
On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 7:58:08 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> I've often wondered why my MKIV yaw string behaves properly on my Stemme
> when the engine is running.Â* Does the programming generate a feedback
> signal opposite in phase and equal to the amplitude of the propeller
> pulses?Â* How is the propeller pulse signal captured by the MKIV system?Â*
> Does it read the alpha particle emissions of the proprietary yarn used
> in the construction of the device?Â* What is the half life of the yarn?Â*
> Etc...
>
> <snipped a bunch>
>
> >>> Okay, time's up!
> >>>
> >>> Good Soaring!
> >>>
> >>> bumper
> >> The instructions may be a little funky and the cardboard packaging limp, but who cares if it points the wrong way?
> >>
> >>
Holy Halloween.
This much fun, and we haven't even switched off from Daylight Savings Time yet.
I am almost looking forward to long nights and more r.a.s. posts.
That would be Really Absurdly Silly postings.
Gotta say, I enjoy you fellows when you crank a smile.
Cindy B
October 30th 17, 10:48 PM
On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 10:58:08 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> I've often wondered why my MKIV yaw string behaves properly on my Stemme
> when the engine is running.Â* Does the programming generate a feedback
> signal opposite in phase and equal to the amplitude of the propeller
> pulses?Â* How is the propeller pulse signal captured by the MKIV system?Â*
> Does it read the alpha particle emissions of the proprietary yarn used
> in the construction of the device?Â* What is the half life of the yarn?Â*
> Etc...
>
> On 10/28/2017 6:35 PM, bumper wrote:
> > On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-7, jfitch wrote:
> >> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 9:33:09 AM UTC-7, bumper wrote:
> >>> I posted before re Wings and Wheels' acquisition of the MKIV and Quiet Vent.
> >>>
> >>> Some inside info:
> >>>
> >>> Sean visited beautiful Minden, NV for training and to pick up manufacturing tools and fixtures. About half way through training, he was a little slow and being every bit as picky as me, rejecting about half. He says, "There is a lot to this!". I respond, "And such a little thing, the customer would never know." I was pleased at how fast he was catching on.
> >>>
> >>> Several weeks later I call to see how things were going. Maybe sold, but the MKIV is still my baby. Sean assures me all is well, says he's changed the packaging and will send me a sample. When it arrives I see it's excellent quality, and packaging is nicer too.
> >>>
> >>> Still you may have concerns, So if you purchase a MKIV or QV from W & W, and feel you didn't get your money's worth for whatever reason, just contact me and I'll refund your money up to the full purchase price, including shipping. Please note this is a limited time offer.
> >>>
> >>> Okay, time's up!
> >>>
> >>> Good Soaring!
> >>>
> >>> bumper
> >> Bumper you should outsource this to China. They will make them for $0.20, 200,000 to a container. The instructions may be a little funky and the cardboard packaging limp, but who cares if it points the wrong way?
> >>
> >> Then get the Trump administration to give you $1,000,000 in tax incentives to bring manufacturing back. Modern Business 101.
> > I thought about that, but then remembered how much I worried when my last glider came across the North Atlantic. Those shipping containers go overboard sometimes. From 2008 to 2013, 1679 containers were lost per year. With my luck, and your well meaning help, one of those would have had 200,000 MKIV's on it. Can you imagine what would happen to soaring as we know it without the MKIV?
> >
> > Besides, each MKIV requires extensive programming and hands on training to insure it points the right way and doesn't wag it's tail too much - like my golden retriever, "Thumper" they tend to get excited, especially when you fly right. I just checked and none of the world's truly accomplished yaw string programmers speak Chinese or Chinglish. So I guess I'm out that million $$.
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Dan, 5J
You failed to input the x axis compensation factor and adjust the damping coefficient.
UH
Dan Marotta
October 30th 17, 10:58 PM
That's so true!Â* I also forgot to mention that the proprietary wool used
in the yaw string comes only from the Icelandic High Country mountain
sheep (females only due to the extra lanolin content).
On 10/30/2017 4:48 PM, wrote:
> On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 10:58:08 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> I've often wondered why my MKIV yaw string behaves properly on my Stemme
>> when the engine is running.Â* Does the programming generate a feedback
>> signal opposite in phase and equal to the amplitude of the propeller
>> pulses?Â* How is the propeller pulse signal captured by the MKIV system?
>> Does it read the alpha particle emissions of the proprietary yarn used
>> in the construction of the device?Â* What is the half life of the yarn?
>> Etc...
>>
>> On 10/28/2017 6:35 PM, bumper wrote:
>>> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 12:25:13 PM UTC-7, jfitch wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 9:33:09 AM UTC-7, bumper wrote:
>>>>> I posted before re Wings and Wheels' acquisition of the MKIV and Quiet Vent.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some inside info:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean visited beautiful Minden, NV for training and to pick up manufacturing tools and fixtures. About half way through training, he was a little slow and being every bit as picky as me, rejecting about half. He says, "There is a lot to this!". I respond, "And such a little thing, the customer would never know." I was pleased at how fast he was catching on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Several weeks later I call to see how things were going. Maybe sold, but the MKIV is still my baby. Sean assures me all is well, says he's changed the packaging and will send me a sample. When it arrives I see it's excellent quality, and packaging is nicer too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still you may have concerns, So if you purchase a MKIV or QV from W & W, and feel you didn't get your money's worth for whatever reason, just contact me and I'll refund your money up to the full purchase price, including shipping. Please note this is a limited time offer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, time's up!
>>>>>
>>>>> Good Soaring!
>>>>>
>>>>> bumper
>>>> Bumper you should outsource this to China. They will make them for $0.20, 200,000 to a container. The instructions may be a little funky and the cardboard packaging limp, but who cares if it points the wrong way?
>>>>
>>>> Then get the Trump administration to give you $1,000,000 in tax incentives to bring manufacturing back. Modern Business 101.
>>> I thought about that, but then remembered how much I worried when my last glider came across the North Atlantic. Those shipping containers go overboard sometimes. From 2008 to 2013, 1679 containers were lost per year. With my luck, and your well meaning help, one of those would have had 200,000 MKIV's on it. Can you imagine what would happen to soaring as we know it without the MKIV?
>>>
>>> Besides, each MKIV requires extensive programming and hands on training to insure it points the right way and doesn't wag it's tail too much - like my golden retriever, "Thumper" they tend to get excited, especially when you fly right. I just checked and none of the world's truly accomplished yaw string programmers speak Chinese or Chinglish. So I guess I'm out that million $$.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Dan, 5J
> You failed to input the x axis compensation factor and adjust the damping coefficient.
> UH
--
Dan, 5J
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