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Charles Longley
October 31st 17, 02:01 AM
I am looking pretty seriously at buying 1/2 of an ASW 19. The other partner thinks there is a mod to move the instrument panel to the canopy. I am not that excited about shimmying my legs under it. Has anyone done this? If so what’s the cost of the parts and how much time to install?

Thanks!
Charlie

Darryl Ramm
October 31st 17, 03:52 AM
Country? Location?

Charles Longley
October 31st 17, 04:25 AM
Washington State.

Darryl Ramm
October 31st 17, 04:31 AM
On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 9:25:45 PM UTC-7, Charles Longley wrote:
> Washington State.

As has been posted on r.a.s. in the past William Soaring may have tooling to do this. Since they are also now the Schleicher dealer I'd start there. You can search r.a.s. for past posts.

Charles Longley
October 31st 17, 05:05 AM
Thanks I was looking for someone who had this done to their glider.

Darryl Ramm
October 31st 17, 05:54 AM
On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 10:05:44 PM UTC-7, Charles Longley wrote:
> Thanks I was looking for someone who had this done to their glider.

So an leading glider A&P shop who has probably done several conversions is no use to you to talk to? Not following any logic here.

Charles Longley
October 31st 17, 06:07 AM
Sigh...

Charles Longley
October 31st 17, 06:10 AM
I am an A&P/IA and am looking for someone who had it done to their glider. Your advice isn’t reallly useful. I know who Williams is.

Paul Agnew
October 31st 17, 01:04 PM
https://ca.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/ASW19owners/info

We have an ASW-19 owners group that may be of some assistance. I'm a new owner myself and have relied on the experience of the other owners there.

Paul A.
Jupiter, FL

Charles Longley
October 31st 17, 01:53 PM
OK thanks I subscribed to the group.

October 31st 17, 04:19 PM
On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 11:10:50 PM UTC-7, Charles Longley wrote:
> I am an A&P/IA and am looking for someone who had it done to their glider.. Your advice isn’t reallly useful. I know who Williams is.

Ive done this to my Asw-19 glider, somewhat recently. Purchased a conversion kit from Schleicher, installed it and performed W&B balance according to paperwork supplied with the kit. The conversion is evasive and time consuming, but it rejuvenates the glider and in my opinion it is totally worth the effort. I’ve also installed a second airbrake spoiler conversion, with materials also purchased from Schleicher. If you need more details send me an email.

Mike Borrowdale[_2_]
October 31st 17, 04:45 PM
At 16:19 31 October 2017, wrote:
>On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 11:10:50 PM UTC-7, Charles Longley wrote:
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I did this mod to my 19 about 10 years ago. As mentioned, the fitting is
far from easy using the Schleicher-supplied kit. A professional I
talked to later said he'd taken 40 hours to fit the first he did.
But when, a few years later, I made an inadvertent inverted arrival (don't
ask!) it made all the difference between extracting me easily
and performing major surgery on the nose. Made it well worth the effort
involved and I would highly recommend it.
Mike

October 31st 17, 11:39 PM
Hi Mike,

Can you email me some more info about the panel mod? Getting my long legs under the panel is fun, but maybe the mod will be worth it. I’m at swanson43537. At yahoo dot com.

Thanks,

John

Charles Longley
November 1st 17, 07:44 AM
Thanks for the help guys! I am going to put an offer in on the glider.

krasw
November 1st 17, 07:47 AM
Easy and cheap mod is to just laminate new panel with larger leg openings. Just draw original panel shape to piece of plywood, group instruments together by using cardboard templates (outer dimensions, of course) and draw new leg openings. Then saw along the line, paint and wax, and you have ready positive mold for glass layup. It is quite easy to make openings 2-5 cm larger if you have a mix of large and small dials. Makes a day and night difference for entry and exit.

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