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Mike Lindsay
June 10th 04, 09:56 AM
My gliding partner and I have a LX1000 in our DG202.

This instrument needs some attention, and we are wondering if its time
to replace it rather than spending money on something outdated.

We have a separate GPS/logger/nav display system (Garmin 89, EW B,
Compaq 1550), so we aren't looking for all the bells and whistles.

It would be good to have a system which didn't need a flask connection
for the vario function, and which gave us a flight director (Told us to
fly faster or slower)

We are thinking of spending about 700 GBPs, 1200 Euros or 1200 USDs.

Any ideas, anyone?
--
Mike Lindsay
EKA

Bill Daniels
June 10th 04, 09:41 PM
"Mike Lindsay" > wrote in message
...
>
> My gliding partner and I have a LX1000 in our DG202.
>
> This instrument needs some attention, and we are wondering if its time
> to replace it rather than spending money on something outdated.
>
> We have a separate GPS/logger/nav display system (Garmin 89, EW B,
> Compaq 1550), so we aren't looking for all the bells and whistles.
>
> It would be good to have a system which didn't need a flask connection
> for the vario function, and which gave us a flight director (Told us to
> fly faster or slower)
>
> We are thinking of spending about 700 GBPs, 1200 Euros or 1200 USDs.
>
> Any ideas, anyone?
> --
> Mike Lindsay
> EKA

Borgelt B-50. The best Super Vario there is.

Bill Daniels

Mike Lindsay
June 10th 04, 10:58 PM
In article <eI3yc.1180$zz.279@attbi_s04>, Bill Daniels
> writes
>> It would be good to have a system which didn't need a flask connection
>> for the vario function, and which gave us a flight director (Told us to
>> fly faster or slower)
>>
>> We are thinking of spending about 700 GBPs, 1200 Euros or 1200 USDs.
>>
>> Any ideas, anyone?
>> --
>> Mike Lindsay
>> EKA
>
>Borgelt B-50. The best Super Vario there is.
>
>Bill Daniels
>
Thanks. But the B50 doesn't have a flight director function does it? Or
am I wrong?
--
Mike Lindsay

Nick Hill
June 11th 04, 09:53 AM
Mike Lindsay wrote:

>
> Thanks. But the B50 doesn't have a flight director function does it? Or
> am I wrong?

I think your are confusing it with the B40.

B50:
Analogue vario meter with continuous display of average on LCD readout
in climb mode.

Speed to fly (push pull, director mode) on edge meter, relative neto on
vario meter, average on LCD readout in cruise mode.

Fully combatible and supported by winpilot pro

http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/

Nick Hill

Don Johnstone
June 11th 04, 12:57 PM
I currently use an SDI C3 which has all the vario functions
and, if linked to the GPS a final glide computer as
well with continuous readout. I find that it is as
user friendly as any complex vario and has all I need,
and you do not need a PhD in computer science to set
it up and use it. I purchased mine for £500 3 years
ago (SH). The SDI C4 is supposed to be better but a
little more exp[ensive. I have used a Cambridge and
an LX5000. For simplicity and clarity the SDI wins,
the only drawback is the lack of some features.

At 20:30 10 June 2004, Mike Lindsay wrote:
>
>My gliding partner and I have a LX1000 in our DG202.
>
>
>This instrument needs some attention, and we are wondering
>if its time
>to replace it rather than spending money on something
>outdated.
>
>We have a separate GPS/logger/nav display system (Garmin
>89, EW B,
>Compaq 1550), so we aren't looking for all the bells
>and whistles.
>
>It would be good to have a system which didn't need
>a flask connection
>for the vario function, and which gave us a flight
>director (Told us to
>fly faster or slower)
>
>We are thinking of spending about 700 GBPs, 1200 Euros
>or 1200 USDs.
>
>Any ideas, anyone?
>--
>Mike Lindsay
>EKA
>

Mike Lindsay
June 11th 04, 09:21 PM
In article >, Nick Hill
> writes
>Mike Lindsay wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks. But the B50 doesn't have a flight director function does it? Or
>> am I wrong?
>
>I think your are confusing it with the B40.
>
>B50:
>Analogue vario meter with continuous display of average on LCD readout
>in climb mode.
>
>Speed to fly (push pull, director mode) on edge meter, relative neto on
>vario meter, average on LCD readout in cruise mode.
>
>Fully combatible and supported by winpilot pro
>
>http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/
>
>Nick Hill

Thanks very much. Just had a look at the URL, I think we might go for
that!

--
Mike Lindsay

Mike Lindsay
June 11th 04, 09:23 PM
In article >, Don Johnstone <REMOVE_TO_REPL
> writes
>I currently use an SDI C3 which has all the vario functions
>and, if linked to the GPS a final glide computer as
>well with continuous readout. I find that it is as
>user friendly as any complex vario and has all I need,
>and you do not need a PhD in computer science to set
>it up and use it. I purchased mine for £500 3 years
>ago (SH). The SDI C4 is supposed to be better but a
>little more exp[ensive. I have used a Cambridge and
>an LX5000. For simplicity and clarity the SDI wins,
>the only drawback is the lack of some features.
>
>At 20:30 10 June 2004, Mike Lindsay wrote:
>>
Thanks for that.
--
Mike Lindsay

goneill
June 11th 04, 09:39 PM
Read it from the web pages themselves http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/
I am buying a B50 for my ASW20L and I have been going through the data on
many vario systems for a year before my glider arrived.
Price is better ,reliability reputed to be much better,it has an upgrade
path either to a
PDA or to a B2000 full flight computer at a better price/performance in
comparison
to other complete sytems .
I dont know the UK price but converting B50 price from our $ to UK pounds
would make it between 400-500 then if you add a B2000 brings it up 1000-1200
pounds,
plus local taxes, from the used adverts in Europe that makes it a VERY good
price for a new system.
I have no connection to Borgelt but from all the info I have gathered it is
the best suited
for me and when asked for my recommendation for a cheap tough basic
audiovario for club use
the B40 was the one I said was the one to go for.
gary



"Mike Lindsay" > wrote in message
...
> In article <eI3yc.1180$zz.279@attbi_s04>, Bill Daniels
> > writes
> >> It would be good to have a system which didn't need a flask connection
> >> for the vario function, and which gave us a flight director (Told us to
> >> fly faster or slower)
> >>
> >> We are thinking of spending about 700 GBPs, 1200 Euros or 1200 USDs.
> >>
> >> Any ideas, anyone?
> >> --
> >> Mike Lindsay
> >> EKA
> >
> >Borgelt B-50. The best Super Vario there is.
> >
> >Bill Daniels
> >
> Thanks. But the B50 doesn't have a flight director function does it? Or
> am I wrong?
> --
> Mike Lindsay

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