Parachute Lumbar Bladder

[Roy B.]

Does anybody know a source for the inflatable lumbar bladder (with hose & pump bulb) that goes in some parachute packs - like the old Security 150s?
ROY

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On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 4:36:40 PM UTC, Roy B. wrote:
> Does anybody know a source for the inflatable lumbar bladder (with hose & pump bulb) that goes in some parachute packs - like the old Security 150s?
> ROY

Hi Roy,

I use an adapted old anaeroid blood pressure cuff but you can buy the same thing marketed as inflatable lumbar supports e.g.

https://www.amazon.com/Tcare-Multifunctional-Portable-Inflatable-Orthopedic/dp/B0759B2NPP/ref=sr_1_9_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1516036720&sr=8-9&keywords=lumbar%2Binflatable%2Bsupport&th=1

John G

[Jonathan St. Cloud]

On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 8:36:40 AM UTC-8, Roy B. wrote:
> Does anybody know a source for the inflatable lumbar bladder (with hose & pump bulb) that goes in some parachute packs - like the old Security 150s?
> ROY

Contact butler parachutes. They also have a temper foam pas for just below chute that makes the entire rig comfortable for hours in the cockpit.

[Dan Daly[_2_]]

On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 11:36:40 AM UTC-5, Roy B. wrote:
> Does anybody know a source for the inflatable lumbar bladder (with hose & pump bulb) that goes in some parachute packs - like the old Security 150s?
> ROY

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/inflatelumbar.php

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I used an inflatable rubberized fabric camping pillow for a while. Just bought a rubber inflating bulb from a medical supply house and connected it with some plastic tubing. Worked great. The bulbs are available as replacement parts because they eventually crack and fail, probably faster in a cockpit environment than in an office.

Two other reasons I stopped using it. First, the firmness varies with altitude, so you can find yourself adjusting it.

Second, I started to worry about how it would behave in a crash. Would it fail catastrophically just when I needed lumbar support the most?

I went to the memory foam approach. Not as easy to adjust. But when it's stuffed behind your back, it doesn't harden up in the cold.

Chip Bearden

[Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)]

No connection with them/her, but I believe "ridge sewing" also does fabric covered TempurFoam wedges.
Yes, related to, "the Karl", yes I use TemperFoam when deadline with a broken back from the early 80's, broke a 2nd time just over a year ago.
Yes, the foam is rock hard when cold, body warmth makes it fit better. Beats the old "rolled up towel" I used to use.

[jfitch]

On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 8:36:40 AM UTC-8, Roy B. wrote:
> Does anybody know a source for the inflatable lumbar bladder (with hose & pump bulb) that goes in some parachute packs - like the old Security 150s?
> ROY

The ones Security used were sourced from a medical supply house. They are used to make wheel chairs more comfortable. You might check with a local supplier of such gear.

[jfitch]

On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 12:14:55 PM UTC-8, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
> No connection with them/her, but I believe "ridge sewing" also does fabric covered TempurFoam wedges.
> Yes, related to, "the Karl", yes I use TemperFoam when deadline with a broken back from the early 80's, broke a 2nd time just over a year ago.
> Yes, the foam is rock hard when cold, body warmth makes it fit better. Beats the old "rolled up towel" I used to use.

After chasing leaks in the bladder for years, I discovered that the canopy cover, rolled up in its bag, was just right placed in the bottom of the seat back before I climb in. And it leaves the baggage shelf free....

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"After chasing leaks in the bladder for years, I discovered that the canopy cover, rolled up in its bag, was just right placed in the bottom of the seat back before I climb in. And it leaves the baggage shelf free...."

To which bladder and what kinds of leakage are you referring? (Age related question.) Unsure about the reference to the baggage shelf, except it might provide additional room for Handi-Wipes and absorbent pads.

[jfitch]

On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 6:24:39 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> "After chasing leaks in the bladder for years, I discovered that the canopy cover, rolled up in its bag, was just right placed in the bottom of the seat back before I climb in. And it leaves the baggage shelf free...."
>
> To which bladder and what kinds of leakage are you referring? (Age related question.) Unsure about the reference to the baggage shelf, except it might provide additional room for Handi-Wipes and absorbent pads.

Ha Ha! Maybe this thread and the one about relief systems can be merged.....

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"Ha Ha! Maybe this thread and the one about relief systems can be merged..... "

So, you think a "Comedy Relief" thread could be approved by the Google Groups? I am in favor, 'cuz I have been involved with aviation for over 45 years and some of those stories are hilarious.

Let's face it. Having to pee in inconvenient circumstances can be damn funny.

After the initial logistics, emergency implementation and final relief, a good story can provide important information, but it probably won't count towards the FAA's WINGS program.

[JS[_5_]]

On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 7:12:49 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> "Ha Ha! Maybe this thread and the one about relief systems can be merged..... "
>
> So, you think a "Comedy Relief" thread could be approved by the Google Groups? I am in favor, 'cuz I have been involved with aviation for over 45 years and some of those stories are hilarious.
>
> Let's face it. Having to pee in inconvenient circumstances can be damn funny.
>
> After the initial logistics, emergency implementation and final relief, a good story can provide important information, but it probably won't count towards the FAA's WINGS program.

It might not count towards the WINGS program, but...
Might get credit at Embry Piddle.
Jim

[jfitch]

On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 7:12:49 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> "Ha Ha! Maybe this thread and the one about relief systems can be merged..... "
>
> So, you think a "Comedy Relief" thread could be approved by the Google Groups? I am in favor, 'cuz I have been involved with aviation for over 45 years and some of those stories are hilarious.
>
> Let's face it. Having to pee in inconvenient circumstances can be damn funny.
>
> After the initial logistics, emergency implementation and final relief, a good story can provide important information, but it probably won't count towards the FAA's WINGS program.

How about hooking up the catheter to the lumbar bag? As the flight goes on, the lumbar support gets better and better, and it's nice and warm....

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On Tuesday, January 16, 2018 at 7:30:38 PM UTC, jfitch wrote:
> On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 7:12:49 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> > "Ha Ha! Maybe this thread and the one about relief systems can be merged..... "
> >
> > So, you think a "Comedy Relief" thread could be approved by the Google Groups? I am in favor, 'cuz I have been involved with aviation for over 45 years and some of those stories are hilarious.
> >
> > Let's face it. Having to pee in inconvenient circumstances can be damn funny.
> >
> > After the initial logistics, emergency implementation and final relief, a good story can provide important information, but it probably won't count towards the FAA's WINGS program.
>
> How about hooking up the catheter to the lumbar bag? As the flight goes on, the lumbar support gets better and better, and it's nice and warm....

Ah the old bloodshot eyes from peeing into a bag you are sitting on situation. It's a one time only activity.

[AS]

On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 11:36:40 AM UTC-5, Roy B. wrote:
> Does anybody know a source for the inflatable lumbar bladder (with hose & pump bulb) that goes in some parachute packs - like the old Security 150s?
> ROY

Go to Amazon.com (or better yet to smile.amazon.com where your purchases support the SSA!) and search for 'Inflatable lumbar support travel pillow'. Plenty of examples of inflatable cushions with a rubber bulb attached in different shapes available.
Uli
'AS'