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Mark Zivley
June 17th 04, 03:23 AM
I promised Bill Daniels that I'd burn him a DVD of some of my winch
videos and the result is pretty horrible quality which is a result of
two things. A. I'm using Pinnacle Studio 8 and it's given me some
problems and I'm more than a bit peeved that in less than 6 months I am
foced to buy Version 9 and all support for 8 is gone. B. My DVD burner
is in my winpy laptop rather than my desktop which has more power.
After 3 hours of "churning then burning" the video on the DVD is junk.

Bottom line is I need to probably do two things. 1. Buy a DVD burner
for my desktop. 2. If there is better software out there that's
better for not too much then I'd like some recommendations. I'm running
XP pro with plenty of memory and speed.

Thanks,

Mark

CO2ID
June 17th 04, 04:21 AM
I shar your thought 100% on Pinnacle ver. 8. It cost a lot of $$$ and then a
few "weeks" later I am forced to upgrade. The owners must be related to Bill
Gates.

Joel

Colin
June 17th 04, 06:41 AM
(CO2ID) wrote:

>I shar your thought 100% on Pinnacle ver. 8. It cost a lot of $$$ and then a
>few "weeks" later I am forced to upgrade. The owners must be related to Bill
>Gates.
>
>Joel

Worse than that, I cannot get it to capture a 20 minute video to MPEG
file. Support reply very quickly, but give you increasingly time
consuming tasks which do not fix the fault:
1. Install latest patch (45Mb)
2. Uninstall all pinnacle s/w, and remove all pinnacle entries from
the registry. Now reload it all.
3. Install new patch
4. Install even later patch (they produce about 2 per week)
5. Reformat the hard disc.
Through all this, they refuse to state that the simple operation which
fails on my system works on theirs.

tango4
June 17th 04, 08:55 AM
Adobe premiere

Ian

"Mark Zivley" > wrote in message
...
> I promised Bill Daniels that I'd burn him a DVD of some of my winch
> videos and the result is pretty horrible quality which is a result of
> two things. A. I'm using Pinnacle Studio 8 and it's given me some
> problems and I'm more than a bit peeved that in less than 6 months I am
> foced to buy Version 9 and all support for 8 is gone. B. My DVD burner
> is in my winpy laptop rather than my desktop which has more power.
> After 3 hours of "churning then burning" the video on the DVD is junk.
>
> Bottom line is I need to probably do two things. 1. Buy a DVD burner
> for my desktop. 2. If there is better software out there that's
> better for not too much then I'd like some recommendations. I'm running
> XP pro with plenty of memory and speed.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>

Lennie the Lurker
June 17th 04, 02:40 PM
Colin > wrote in message >...
> (CO2ID) wrote:
>
http://www.serif.com

Might look at "Movie Plus".

IF it looks good to you, DON'T ORDER ON LINE. Call them, discounts
are normally more than 50%. I haven't used it much, but it seems to
grab video from my VCR nicely. Don't have an output on my Cam, can't
say anything about that. Editor is sorta nice, but different to use.

Graham Dean
June 17th 04, 03:46 PM
Allow me use this opportunity to introduce myself to the group and to
shamelessly promote my company's video editing software at the same time :-)

I work for Pure Motion Ltd here in the UK but I'm also a keen glider pilot.
You can see some gliding influences on our website in the top-right logo and
the fact that the panorama on the front page was taken on the same day as my
one and only visit to Omarama.

Anyway, to get the point: you might like to try EditStudio, our video
editing software as well as the MPEG XS plugin and DVD-lab for burning to
DVD. All are available as trial downloads from our website.

Both EditStudio and DVD-lab have won numerous awards from the press in the
UK (from, among others, Computer Video, PC Format and PC Plus magazines).
MPEG XS, our MPEG codec uses the same high quality encoder engine as some
much more expensive software so you shouldn't be disappointed in the quality
of the output.

Finally, we offer unparalleled customer support. We usually answer email
queries within an hour or so as well as supporting users via our website
community. We don't abandon our customers when we release new versions of
the software either.

Caution: I am affiliated with Pure Motion - I work for them!

Thanks,

--
Graham Dean, Pure Motion Ltd, www.puremotion.com

WilLiscomb
June 18th 04, 02:14 PM
Adobe Premier - lots of money but you get what you pay for....
williscomb

Martin Hellman
June 18th 04, 09:12 PM
Mark Zivley > wrote in message >...
> I'm using Pinnacle Studio 8 and it's given me some
> problems and I'm more than a bit peeved that in less than 6 months I am
> foced to buy Version 9 and all support for 8 is gone. B.
> Bottom line is I need to probably do two things. 1. Buy a DVD burner
> for my desktop. 2. If there is better software out there that's
> better for not too much then I'd like some recommendations. I'm running
> XP pro with plenty of memory and speed.

Eighteen months ago I bought a Mac, with about half my motivation
being that the user reviews I saw of Windows video editing sw were
about 80% like your posting, even on Pinnacle Studio which had been
selected as Editor's Choice by numerous places. One place even
retracted their Editor's Choice designation (and didn't reassign it)
when most of their readers complained. Apple's iMovie and iDVD aren't
perfect, but much better than the horror stories I hear in Windows
land. Also ... I almost have no worries about viruses.

It's true Mac hardware is a bit more expensive than comparable Windows
iron, but when you add in the cost of software to try and imitate the
software that comes with the Mac, I think it works out the other way.
Not to mention the value of your time and aggravation.

And, yes, I've used it to edit some soaring videos I've shot and am
very happy with the results.

Hope this helps.

Martin

Mark Zivley
June 18th 04, 09:50 PM
Looks like great software, but at $700 list on the web site I was hoping
for something under a 1/3 of that....



tango4 wrote:
> Adobe premiere
>
> Ian
>
> "Mark Zivley" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I promised Bill Daniels that I'd burn him a DVD of some of my winch
>>videos and the result is pretty horrible quality which is a result of
>>two things. A. I'm using Pinnacle Studio 8 and it's given me some
>>problems and I'm more than a bit peeved that in less than 6 months I am
>>foced to buy Version 9 and all support for 8 is gone. B. My DVD burner
>>is in my winpy laptop rather than my desktop which has more power.
>>After 3 hours of "churning then burning" the video on the DVD is junk.
>>
>>Bottom line is I need to probably do two things. 1. Buy a DVD burner
>>for my desktop. 2. If there is better software out there that's
>>better for not too much then I'd like some recommendations. I'm running
>>XP pro with plenty of memory and speed.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Mark
>>
>
>
>

tango4
June 19th 04, 04:24 AM
Sorry but I can't do anything about that

:-)


"Mark Zivley" > wrote in message
m...
> Looks like great software, but at $700 list on the web site I was hoping
> for something under a 1/3 of that....
>

Bruce Hoult
June 28th 04, 10:21 AM
In article >,
(Martin Hellman) wrote:

> Eighteen months ago I bought a Mac, with about half my motivation
> being that the user reviews I saw of Windows video editing sw were
> about 80% like your posting, even on Pinnacle Studio which had been
> selected as Editor's Choice by numerous places. One place even
> retracted their Editor's Choice designation (and didn't reassign it)
> when most of their readers complained. Apple's iMovie and iDVD aren't
> perfect, but much better than the horror stories I hear in Windows
> land.

That's what I use too, though it doesn't help the original poster who is
probably stuck with his Windows box.

One nice thing about the free iMovie and iDVD [1] though is that either
or both can be independently replaced by their professional but not
*too* expensive siblings, Final Cut and DVD Studio, depending on which
one you hit the wall with.

A few weeks ago I watched a friend singing at a concert. I left to go
home at 10 pm, and had the footage edited and a DVD burned by midnight
and on her doorstep before she got home.

-- Bruce

tango4
June 28th 04, 06:16 PM
>
> A few weeks ago I watched a friend singing at a concert. I left to go
> home at 10 pm, and had the footage edited and a DVD burned by midnight
> and on her doorstep before she got home.
>
> -- Bruce

With you waiting to hand it over ?

:-)

Ian

Pete
July 2nd 04, 12:52 PM
i use ulead software ( video studio 7 and DVD workshop2...
its stable and cost effective...
I recommend it as an excellent place to start.
(windows box)

mat Redsell
July 2nd 04, 11:10 PM
I use the 9.12 upgrade.. well worth it for editing out the wind noise and
doing color changes.

-mat
"Pete" > wrote in message
...
> i use ulead software ( video studio 7 and DVD workshop2...
> its stable and cost effective...
> I recommend it as an excellent place to start.
> (windows box)
>
>

mat Redsell
July 2nd 04, 11:12 PM
Should have mentioned the software is from Pinnacle.

-mat
"mat Redsell" > wrote in message
...
> I use the 9.12 upgrade.. well worth it for editing out the wind noise and
> doing color changes.
>
> -mat
> "Pete" > wrote in message
> ...
> > i use ulead software ( video studio 7 and DVD workshop2...
> > its stable and cost effective...
> > I recommend it as an excellent place to start.
> > (windows box)
> >
> >
>
>

Pete
July 4th 04, 07:15 AM
pinnacle nine has a poor reputation with the newgroup people at
rec.video.desktop
which is a pity because it has some great features, but it has a poor
reputation when it comes to stability
- a lot of people are saying it crashes a lot.




"mat Redsell" > wrote in message
...
> I use the 9.12 upgrade.. well worth it for editing out the wind noise and
> doing color changes.
>
> -mat
> "Pete" > wrote in message
> ...
> > i use ulead software ( video studio 7 and DVD workshop2...
> > its stable and cost effective...
> > I recommend it as an excellent place to start.
> > (windows box)
> >
> >
>
>

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