Condor2, inbound on final glide!

[sisu1a]

https://www.facebook.com/CondorSim/

Condor2 is finally here/around the corner. The new site is up, the old forum imported to the new one, and the store is up (buy links not active yet but prices are there)

http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/?cn-reloaded=1#

http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/ (old forum towards bottom, threads still active)

Yay!

[Dan Daly[_2_]]

On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 2:42:57 AM UTC-5, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 3:06:07 AM UTC, sisu1a wrote:
> > https://www.facebook.com/CondorSim/
> >
> > Condor2 is finally here/around the corner. The new site is up, the old forum imported to the new one, and the store is up (buy links not active yet but prices are there)
> >
> > http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/?cn-reloaded=1#
> >
> > http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/ (old forum towards bottom, threads still active)
> >
> > Yay!
>
> You beat me to it my friend :)
>
> Chris Wedgwood
> Condor Team

Here's the 'what's new' from the webpage:

What’s new in Condor 2
Graphics engine:

Rendering code completely rewritten to DirectX 11, allowing extensive use of GPU shaders (vs DirectX 7 of Condor 1 with fixed pipeline rendering)
Screen resolution limited only to hardware (vs max 2048 in Condor 1)
Fullscreen ALT-TAB functionality is now supported (vs. full screen switching not supported in Condor 1)

Weather model:

Many improvements to thermal model (higher cloud base, thicker clouds, streeting, flatlands activity)
Completely new Cu cloud model, much less strain on the GPU and more realistic lighting, will enable much bigger clouds (2.x version)
Improved ridge lift model
A new high level wind speed setting with wind speeds up to 100 km/h (vs.. no high level wind setting and wind speeds of max 50 km/h in Condor 1)
Completely rewritten wave lift with multiple waves and lenticularis clouds (vs. single wave and no lenticularis clouds in Condor 1)
Adjustable cirrus density (vs static in Condor 1)

Multiplayer:

64 planes or more in MP with better (smarter) plane position data exchange (vs max 32 planes in Condor 1)
Automatic port forwarding (vs manual NAT setup in Condor 1)

Flight physics model:

Improvements to flight physics model
Nicer plane handling

Scenery rendering:

30 m resolution scenery, internally 22.5m (vs 90 m in Condor 1)
Default scenery texture size is 2048 (vs 512 in Condor 1, that is 16x more texture data)
Much lower terrain texture memory footprint despite higher texture resolution
Much denser forests with real size trees and more accurate tree placement (vs less dense forests with 3x too big trees and 16x worse tree placement in Condor 1)
Multithreaded terrain loading which loads terrain tiles much faster (vs.. single threaded terrain loading in Condor 1 which would now take 8+ seconds if not multithreaded)
Water is “alive” with sun reflections and waves (vs static texture in Condor 1)

Sky and shading:

New sky model with more realistic sunrise/sunset effects
Exponential (realistic) haze (vs linear haze in Condor 1)
Cu clouds cast shadows depending on the sun position (vs shadow always vertically below cloud in Condor 1)
Lenticularis clouds cast shadows on ground and planes
New sun and flares model, sun is hidden behind objects, flares disappear (vs. sun and flares always ON even if behind an object in Condor 1)
Realtime scenery lighting and shadows, mountains cast shadows (vs. static texture shadows in Condor 1)
Trees, planes, airports and all ground objects lighted from sun and shadowed from mountains and clouds (vs. static color in Condor 1)
All ground objects cast shadows (vs no shadows in Condor 1)
Realtime self shadowing of planes in cockpit and outside (vs. no self shadowing in Condor 1)
Specular highlights on planes and other objects (vs no specular highlights in Condor 1)

Planes:

Much higher poly count of planes (exterior and cockpit)
3D instrument models (vs 2D textures in Condor 1)
Reflections of pilot on instruments (vs no reflections in Condor 1)
New, high poly and high resolution texture pilot model
Completely new wing bend model, wings now have inertia (vs. no inertia in Condor 1)
New animation for hand to see wris****ch which is animated
Rotating wheels on planes (vs static wheels in Condor 1)
Improved high/low G effects

Airports:

Completely redesigned airport rendering with high resolution asphalt and grass textures (vs. low resolution textures in Condor 1)
Scenery designer controlled placement of windsocks. Multiple windsocks per airport are allowed, with adjustable size (vs. 1 windsock with generic placement in Condor 1)
Much higher poly count and higher resolution airport objects

Other:

New, higher resolution GUI
High resolution flighttrack logging (vs. low resolution in Condor 1)
Right button mouse “zooming” allows camera placement almost everywhere (vs static distance camera in Condor 1)
Moved all user files (flighttracks, flightplans etc) to documents\Condor folder (vs “virtualstore” issues in Condor 1)
Revised registration and verification to eliminate installation counter problems
Many other improvements (variable tow rope length etc.) …

[kirk.stant]

On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 9:06:07 PM UTC-6, sisu1a wrote:
> https://www.facebook.com/CondorSim/
>
> Condor2 is finally here/around the corner. The new site is up, the old forum imported to the new one, and the store is up (buy links not active yet but prices are there)
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/?cn-reloaded=1#
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/ (old forum towards bottom, threads still active)
>
> Yay!

VR support? Once you fly a sim in VR, it's hard to go back to a screen!

Kirk
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[Matt Herron Jr.]

On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 7:06:07 PM UTC-8, sisu1a wrote:
> https://www.facebook.com/CondorSim/
>
> Condor2 is finally here/around the corner. The new site is up, the old forum imported to the new one, and the store is up (buy links not active yet but prices are there)
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/?cn-reloaded=1#
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/ (old forum towards bottom, threads still active)
>
> Yay!

What is the pricing? Can't seem to find it. Any upgrade path?

[[email protected]]

I wish these guys would hurry up and take my money. :)

I've been looking forward to this for quite some time.

Matt

[Dan Stroschine]

On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 8:06:07 PM UTC-7, sisu1a wrote:
> https://www.facebook.com/CondorSim/
>
> Condor2 is finally here/around the corner. The new site is up, the old forum imported to the new one, and the store is up (buy links not active yet but prices are there)
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/?cn-reloaded=1#
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/ (old forum towards bottom, threads still active)
>
> Yay!

And for those that want to get a start on creating scenery you can download the manual in the downloads section.

[Chris Wedgwood[_2_]]

This evenng I uploaded the Condor Landscape Toolkit for Condor 2, so landscape developers can get going.

We've had a few developers running with us through beta, so there are some projects in the pipeline already :)

Chris
Condor Team

[[email protected]]

On Monday, February 12, 2018 at 4:24:35 PM UTC-6, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> This evenng I uploaded the Condor Landscape Toolkit for Condor 2, so landscape developers can get going.
>
> We've had a few developers running with us through beta, so there are some projects in the pipeline already :)
>
> Chris
> Condor Team

Congrats on Condor 2 Chris, I'm sure it will be fantastic. Can you recommend a joystick? What are the current favorites?

[Chris Wedgwood[_2_]]

On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 1:17:57 AM UTC, wrote:

> Congrats on Condor 2 Chris, I'm sure it will be fantastic. Can you recommend a joystick? What are the current favorites?

We do prefer Force feedback joysticks, and the only decent one is the old Microsoft force feedback 2. Discontinued over 10 years ago..

You can still find good examples on eBay.

Chris
Condor Team

[[email protected]]

I would like to take some credit for the recent release of Condor2.

After working on it for nearly two years (not steadily), I recently published a Condor Orientation document to my website, gliderCFI.com. The orientation, while not everything there is to know about Condor, is a compilation of everything I have learned about the software over the last 8 years as I have levered its features and capabilities to improved glider flight training.

As a disciple of Murphy, I firmly believed the instant I completed my work, based on Condor version 1.1.5, the Condor guys would announce the new release, likely rendering my work obsolete. And so it came to pass, at least the release timing.

To all of you who have waiting so patiently for this day, you are welcome.

====

This is however some evidence here that Murphy may be getting a little soft.. After a quick read through the Condor2 manual, it would appear that much of what I have documented about the software may still be true, so my labor may not have been entirely in vain.

If you are interested, my orientation document is available (as are all my Version 1.1.5 training resources) at no charge, from my website. Follow the drop-down menu under "Condor" or use the link below.

http://glidercfi.com/condor/orientation/orientation-document/

====

Congratulations to the entire Condor2 team, and thank you for all you have done to produce a truly amazing simulation of soaring flight.

Sincerely,

Scott Manley - 3167160CFI
a.k.a. The Condor Guy

[Paul Remde]

Hi Scott,

The Condor Orientation document looks very nice! I have added it to my Condor page.
http://cumulus-soaring.com/condor.htm#Documents

I'm looking forward to Condor 2 details. I'll be selling and supporting it as soon as it is available.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
______________________________
On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 10:10:25 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> I would like to take some credit for the recent release of Condor2.
>
> After working on it for nearly two years (not steadily), I recently published a Condor Orientation document to my website, gliderCFI.com. The orientation, while not everything there is to know about Condor, is a compilation of everything I have learned about the software over the last 8 years as I have levered its features and capabilities to improved glider flight training.
>
> As a disciple of Murphy, I firmly believed the instant I completed my work, based on Condor version 1.1.5, the Condor guys would announce the new release, likely rendering my work obsolete. And so it came to pass, at least the release timing.
>
> To all of you who have waiting so patiently for this day, you are welcome..
>
> ====
>
> This is however some evidence here that Murphy may be getting a little soft. After a quick read through the Condor2 manual, it would appear that much of what I have documented about the software may still be true, so my labor may not have been entirely in vain.
>
> If you are interested, my orientation document is available (as are all my Version 1.1.5 training resources) at no charge, from my website. Follow the drop-down menu under "Condor" or use the link below.
>
> http://glidercfi.com/condor/orientation/orientation-document/
>
> ====
>
> Congratulations to the entire Condor2 team, and thank you for all you have done to produce a truly amazing simulation of soaring flight.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Scott Manley - 3167160CFI
> a.k.a. The Condor Guy

[[email protected]]

Any estimated date for the "buy" link to go live?

Matt

[Paul Remde]

Hi Condor Fans,

Condor2 details are now available here:
http://cumulus-soaring.com/condor2.htm
Order Now!

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
_____________________________________

On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 9:06:07 PM UTC-6, sisu1a wrote:
> https://www.facebook.com/CondorSim/
>
> Condor2 is finally here/around the corner. The new site is up, the old forum imported to the new one, and the store is up (buy links not active yet but prices are there)
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/?cn-reloaded=1#
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/ (old forum towards bottom, threads still active)
>
> Yay!

[Dan[_6_]]

Can you use the existing landscapes (Condir 1) with Condor 2?
7DR

[[email protected]]

What it needs is to be able to use Bing or Google earth images without having to flaff about with the landscape rubbish.

https://cesiumjs.org

[Chris Wedgwood[_2_]]

On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 5:26:12 AM UTC, Dan wrote:
> Can you use the existing landscapes (Condir 1) with Condor 2?
> 7DR

Scenery authors need to convert their landscapes for Condor 2. Some of them were part of beta team so have had the tools from us for some time. Others have just started. See http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=37

Chris Wedgwood
Condor Team

[Chris Wedgwood[_2_]]

On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 5:36:59 AM UTC, wrote:
> What it needs is to be able to use Bing or Google earth images without having to flaff about with the landscape rubbish.
>
> https://cesiumjs.org

Google Maps terms of use state that redistribution of their content is forbidden and even the rules of using their maps in TV or press are quite strict. Not to mention, they clearly state that bulk downloading their data is forbidden too.

Chris Wedgwood
Condor Team

[kirk.stant]

Chris, I'll ask again:

Is their any plan to make Condor 2 capable of supporting Virtual Reality (Vive or Rift)?

VR is a TOTAL game changer in flight simulation - it changes something like Condor from basically a procedural trainer (albeit an excellent one) to pretty close to a full-up flight simulator.

And compared to the cost of a big screen setup (especially a multi-screen setup) a good VR headset is cheap.

Head-tracking systems like Track-IR - or worse, using a hat switch or mouse to move your viewing direction - are handicaps for initial training - solved by the natural viewing habits learned in VR.

Please - consider adding VR capability as soon as possible!

Kirk
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[Dan Stroschine]

On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 9:55:32 AM UTC-7, kirk.stant wrote:
> Chris, I'll ask again:
>
> Is their any plan to make Condor 2 capable of supporting Virtual Reality (Vive or Rift)?
>
> VR is a TOTAL game changer in flight simulation - it changes something like Condor from basically a procedural trainer (albeit an excellent one) to pretty close to a full-up flight simulator.
>
> And compared to the cost of a big screen setup (especially a multi-screen setup) a good VR headset is cheap.
>
> Head-tracking systems like Track-IR - or worse, using a hat switch or mouse to move your viewing direction - are handicaps for initial training - solved by the natural viewing habits learned in VR.
>
> Please - consider adding VR capability as soon as possible!
>
> Kirk
> 66

There was quite a bit of 'discussion' about that on the forums and I think the official answer was no there are no plans for VR, but they are open to considering it in the future.

[kirk.stant]

On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 12:37:02 PM UTC-6, Dan Stroschine wrote:
> There was quite a bit of 'discussion' about that on the forums and I think the official answer was no there are no plans for VR, but they are open to considering it in the future.

That's a pity - definitely removes any interest I have in upgrading to Condor 2. Hopefully they will come around soon and see the benefits of going VR.

Cheers,

Kirk
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[Paul Remde]

Hi,

It looks like I jumped the gun a little with my announcement below. Somehow I came to the conclusion that Condor2 was available for customers. It isn't quite available yet. I have received a license key for myself and installed Condor2 and it is working well. Uros at Condor says license keys for customers should be available very soon. I have received a number of pre-orders and will get keys to customers as soon as I receive them.

Quick Pre-Review
I like the new gliders in the new version (DuoDiscus, Gunau Baby, etc). I very much like that the user-interface is nearly identical to the previous version of Condor. There is no need to learn new screens or layouts. The settings are in the same locations - for the most part. The user-interface does look newer/better. I love the new details in the glider interiors and the more detailed scenery. I like that I can still bump up 1000 m with the "miracle" keyboard key and see thermals with the thermal helpers button - which is also the same key on the keyboard.

You can see many details and get the manual from the Condor web site, or my web site (link in post below).

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

On Thursday, February 15, 2018 at 10:31:27 PM UTC-6, Paul Remde wrote:
> Hi Condor Fans,
>
> Condor2 details are now available here:
> http://cumulus-soaring.com/condor2.htm
> Order Now!
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
> _____________________________________
>
> On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 9:06:07 PM UTC-6, sisu1a wrote:
> > https://www.facebook.com/CondorSim/
> >
> > Condor2 is finally here/around the corner. The new site is up, the old forum imported to the new one, and the store is up (buy links not active yet but prices are there)
> >
> > http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/?cn-reloaded=1#
> >
> > http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/ (old forum towards bottom, threads still active)
> >
> > Yay!

[Chris Wedgwood[_2_]]

On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 6:37:02 PM UTC, Dan Stroschine wrote:
> On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 9:55:32 AM UTC-7, kirk.stant wrote:
> > Chris, I'll ask again:
> >
> > Is their any plan to make Condor 2 capable of supporting Virtual Reality (Vive or Rift)?
> >
> > VR is a TOTAL game changer in flight simulation - it changes something like Condor from basically a procedural trainer (albeit an excellent one) to pretty close to a full-up flight simulator.
> >
> > And compared to the cost of a big screen setup (especially a multi-screen setup) a good VR headset is cheap.
> >
> > Head-tracking systems like Track-IR - or worse, using a hat switch or mouse to move your viewing direction - are handicaps for initial training - solved by the natural viewing habits learned in VR.
> >
> > Please - consider adding VR capability as soon as possible!
> >
> > Kirk
> > 66
>
> There was quite a bit of 'discussion' about that on the forums and I think the official answer was no there are no plans for VR, but they are open to considering it in the future.


That is not correct. We said its on todo list.

[kirk.stant]

On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 3:36:21 PM UTC-6, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
> On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 6:37:02 PM UTC, Dan Stroschine wrote:
> > On Friday, February 16, 2018 at 9:55:32 AM UTC-7, kirk.stant wrote:
> > > Chris, I'll ask again:
> > >
> > > Is their any plan to make Condor 2 capable of supporting Virtual Reality (Vive or Rift)?
> > >
> > > VR is a TOTAL game changer in flight simulation - it changes something like Condor from basically a procedural trainer (albeit an excellent one) to pretty close to a full-up flight simulator.
> > >
> > > And compared to the cost of a big screen setup (especially a multi-screen setup) a good VR headset is cheap.
> > >
> > > Head-tracking systems like Track-IR - or worse, using a hat switch or mouse to move your viewing direction - are handicaps for initial training - solved by the natural viewing habits learned in VR.
> > >
> > > Please - consider adding VR capability as soon as possible!
> > >
> > > Kirk
> > > 66
> >
> > There was quite a bit of 'discussion' about that on the forums and I think the official answer was no there are no plans for VR, but they are open to considering it in the future.
>
>
> That is not correct. We said its on todo list.

Chris, that's great to hear - and I appreciate what you are doing - so will be looking for Condor 2 VR enhancement "in two weeks" ;^)

Anyway, I'll be getting C2 for my daughter who is just starting to learn to fly gliders - only the best!

Cheers,

Kirk

[[email protected]]

I apologize if this was already asked and answered on this forum but is C2 going to allow for tandem flying? I requested this a few years ago and I personally know of at least a half dozen other folks who have formally requested the same.

This would be a HUGE help in training.

[Chris Wedgwood[_2_]]

On Sunday, February 18, 2018 at 5:57:12 AM UTC, wrote:
> I apologize if this was already asked and answered on this forum but is C2 going to allow for tandem flying? I requested this a few years ago and I personally know of at least a half dozen other folks who have formally requested the same.
>
> This would be a HUGE help in training.

No, but thats on the list too.

[Paul Remde]

That is very, very high on my priority list too. The Condor2 team is aware that this feature would be extremely useful and popular.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

On Saturday, February 17, 2018 at 11:57:12 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> I apologize if this was already asked and answered on this forum but is C2 going to allow for tandem flying? I requested this a few years ago and I personally know of at least a half dozen other folks who have formally requested the same.
>
> This would be a HUGE help in training.

[sisu1a]

On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 7:06:07 PM UTC-8, sisu1a wrote:
> https://www.facebook.com/CondorSim/
>
> Condor2 is finally here/around the corner. The new site is up, the old forum imported to the new one, and the store is up (buy links not active yet but prices are there)
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/?cn-reloaded=1#
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/ (old forum towards bottom, threads still active)
>
> Yay!

Available NOW!! ^_^

http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/

[Paul Remde]

Condor 2 is Available Now from Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://cumulus-soaring.com/condor2.htm

I received my first batch of Condor2 license keys just now. Customers who pre-ordered will receive their license keys and download link today.

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
____________________________________________

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 5:36:27 PM UTC-6, sisu1a wrote:
> On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 7:06:07 PM UTC-8, sisu1a wrote:
> > https://www.facebook.com/CondorSim/
> >
> > Condor2 is finally here/around the corner. The new site is up, the old forum imported to the new one, and the store is up (buy links not active yet but prices are there)
> >
> > http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/?cn-reloaded=1#
> >
> > http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/ (old forum towards bottom, threads still active)
> >
> > Yay!
>
> Available NOW!! ^_^
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/

[Darryl Ramm]

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 3:36:27 PM UTC-8, sisu1a wrote:
> On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 7:06:07 PM UTC-8, sisu1a wrote:
> > https://www.facebook.com/CondorSim/
> >
> > Condor2 is finally here/around the corner. The new site is up, the old forum imported to the new one, and the store is up (buy links not active yet but prices are there)
> >
> > http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/?cn-reloaded=1#
> >
> > http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/ (old forum towards bottom, threads still active)
> >
> > Yay!
>
> Available NOW!! ^_^
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/

Oh there goes the next few days...

[Dan Stroschine]

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 4:57:12 PM UTC-7, Darryl Ramm wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 3:36:27 PM UTC-8, sisu1a wrote:
> > On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 7:06:07 PM UTC-8, sisu1a wrote:
> > > https://www.facebook.com/CondorSim/
> > >
> > > Condor2 is finally here/around the corner. The new site is up, the old forum imported to the new one, and the store is up (buy links not active yet but prices are there)
> > >
> > > http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/?cn-reloaded=1#
> > >
> > > http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/ (old forum towards bottom, threads still active)
> > >
> > > Yay!
> >
> > Available NOW!! ^_^
> >
> > http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/
>
> Oh there goes the next few days...

Is anyone else getting an error about the license code isn't in the database?

[NG[_2_]]

When I tried to register, I get an error message that says my internet connection is not working (though it is working).

[Matt Herron Jr.]

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 5:34:43 PM UTC-8, NG wrote:
> When I tried to register, I get an error message that says my internet connection is not working (though it is working).

I get the same error. Paul Remde reports others are experiencing the same issue.

[Paul Remde]

I'm sure the Condor2 Team is swamped with emails right now, and it is the middle of the night in Slovenia. So, unfortunately, we'll need to be patient.

I know this is a bummer. I know you want to try out Condor2. I'm sorry about the issue, but confident they'll have it resolved very soon.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 9:01:09 PM UTC-6, Matt Herron Jr. wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 5:34:43 PM UTC-8, NG wrote:
> > When I tried to register, I get an error message that says my internet connection is not working (though it is working).
>
> I get the same error. Paul Remde reports others are experiencing the same issue.

[[email protected]]

I'm getting the same error. Guessing the license server is down.

[SoaringXCellence]

All,

I used the online ordering and was up and running in about 20 minutes, from order to download to settings. It even works on my low performance video card.

Mike

[sisu1a]

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 7:26:40 PM UTC-8, SoaringXCellence wrote:
> All,
>
> I used the online ordering and was up and running in about 20 minutes, from order to download to settings. It even works on my low performance video card.
>
> Mike


I think people are only having issues ordering through Cumulus, buying directly seems to be running smoothly http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/

[Dan S]

Could anyone share some screenshots or video of the new version of the sim? I'd like to see how it compares.

[sisu1a]

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 12:14:59 AM UTC-8, Dan S wrote:
> Could anyone share some screenshots or video of the new version of the sim? I'd like to see how it compares.

Flying wave:

http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/download/file.php?id=17657&mode=view

http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/download/file.php?id=17658&mode=view

Dynamic lighting https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=V5-_GmfKa1s

Cloud shadows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOOqf_6mFFA

[Dan S]

Thank you. I'll be parting with 50€ this week I expect.

[Dan Daly[_2_]]

> Is anyone else getting an error about the license code isn't in the database?

Mine activated with no problem. Briefly flew the Standard Cirrus and Genesis. I had just flown a hard task in version 1 when it came out, too bagged to do much more... This morning, I'll try ridge and wave.

First impression - visually great. Longer tow rope makes tows easier. Gliders look wonderful. Wish the numbers on the ASI were bigger (I use 1920x1080 on a 32" monitor).

[Paul Remde]

This Condor2 license key issue from last night has been resolved. Please try again with the same key.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 9:04:28 PM UTC-6, Paul Remde wrote:
> I'm sure the Condor2 Team is swamped with emails right now, and it is the middle of the night in Slovenia. So, unfortunately, we'll need to be patient.
>
> I know this is a bummer. I know you want to try out Condor2. I'm sorry about the issue, but confident they'll have it resolved very soon.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 9:01:09 PM UTC-6, Matt Herron Jr. wrote:
> > On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 5:34:43 PM UTC-8, NG wrote:
> > > When I tried to register, I get an error message that says my internet connection is not working (though it is working).
> >
> > I get the same error. Paul Remde reports others are experiencing the same issue.

[Stanislav Los]

I ordered Condor directly and didn’t have any issues. Condor itself is a big leap forward. I flew default task in Std Cirrus using thermals and some ridge. Landscape looks great. Tow rope on airtow can break now too! Glider looks very nice, reflections on the canopy, 3D screws and instruments :). Nice clouds, lights and haze. Lots of changes that make immersion full. Enjoyed my flight and slept like a baby. Now can’t wait to come from work and continue on converting Blairstown NJ to Condor2 :)

Regards,
Stan

[Paul Remde]

5 New Landscapes for Condor2
5 New Landscapes for Condor2!
The image in the link below is of the new Nephi, Utah landscape for Condor 2. Very cool!
http://cumulus-soaring.com/condor2/Nephi-Utah-01.jpg

4 other new landscapes are also available for Condor 2 at:
https://www.condor-club.eu/sceneries/197/

Buy Condor2 for $65 here:
http://cumulus-soaring.com/condor2.htm

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 7:00:26 AM UTC-6, Paul Remde wrote:
> This Condor2 license key issue from last night has been resolved. Please try again with the same key.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>
> On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 9:04:28 PM UTC-6, Paul Remde wrote:
> > I'm sure the Condor2 Team is swamped with emails right now, and it is the middle of the night in Slovenia. So, unfortunately, we'll need to be patient.
> >
> > I know this is a bummer. I know you want to try out Condor2. I'm sorry about the issue, but confident they'll have it resolved very soon.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Paul Remde
> > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
> >
> > On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 9:01:09 PM UTC-6, Matt Herron Jr. wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 at 5:34:43 PM UTC-8, NG wrote:
> > > > When I tried to register, I get an error message that says my internet connection is not working (though it is working).
> > >
> > > I get the same error. Paul Remde reports others are experiencing the same issue.

[Dan Daly[_2_]]

Does anyone have the flap settings vs speed for an Antares 18 - ideally in kts or a picture of the POH ASI flap ring? Either empty or fully ballasted?

Same question for Diana2.

[Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)]

OK, yes, I could go on the website (Condor or yours).....if you had the original version paid for, is there a price break to upgrade?

[Paul Remde]

Condor is not currently offering a discount on Condor2 for Condor (1) users. The two products are quite different. The new version has different gliders and much better graphics. It also requires a more powerful computer and graphics card.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
_____________________________________

On Wednesday, February 21, 2018 at 12:09:12 PM UTC-6, Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot) wrote:
> OK, yes, I could go on the website (Condor or yours).....if you had the original version paid for, is there a price break to upgrade?

[Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)]

Fair enough, just asking.

Thank you for the reply.

[Matt Herron Jr.]

On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 7:06:07 PM UTC-8, sisu1a wrote:
> https://www.facebook.com/CondorSim/
>
> Condor2 is finally here/around the corner. The new site is up, the old forum imported to the new one, and the store is up (buy links not active yet but prices are there)
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/?cn-reloaded=1#
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/ (old forum towards bottom, threads still active)
>
> Yay!

I flew with Condor2 for an hour last night and was favorably impressed. Aside from the graphics improvements, the glider's handling and response (Dana 2) seemed more realistic. Thermals seemed a bit wider in diameter with the core lift falling off at a more gradual rate, making it much easier to center lift. I always felt the thermals were unrealistically tight in the original Condor. Towing is MUCH better with a longer rope. I set up a wave situation and was able to find and stay in lift. I couldn't get any lennys to show up though. Flying in ridge lift seemed about the same. The lack of airplanes is a concern, especially since it looks like they will be selling individual planes for 8-12 euro each. that might hurt organized competitions like nightly soaring that count on everyone having the same class or model of ship for many races. Looking forward to participating in the first real race...

[David Salmon[_3_]]

At 22:13 22 February 2018, Matt Herron Jr. wrote:
>On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 7:06:07 PM UTC-8, sisu1a wrote:
>> https://www.facebook.com/CondorSim/
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>
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>wave=
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>lenny=
>s to show up though. Flying in ridge lift seemed about the same. The
>lack=
> of airplanes is a concern, especially since it looks like they will be
>sel=
>ling individual planes for 8-12 euro each. that might hurt organized
>compe=
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>rst real race...

The way the gliders fly is very realistic, even better than the original,
but what a peculiar set of gliders, certainly some are not representative
of modern use. The original was far more representative. No glass training
glider, a Duo is not a basic trainer, not even a K13, and I thought Genesis
was grounded years ago, maybe I'm wrong. Perhaps a marketing ploy, so we
buy new ones.
To render all the work that has been done by keen flyers all over the world
in producing scenery invalid is a bit unkind, I only hope that it is easy
to make the old compatible with the new.
Overall, some good improvements, but can't help being a bit disappointed.
Dave


>

[Stanislav Los]

Converting v1 landscapes to v2 is not an easy... it needs to be rebult from scratch for the most part.
I was able to salvage old textures, which is good because it was one of the difficult tasks in V1, but in V2 all the tasks are difficult due to increased details plus some optional tasks like adding water etc. Overall, after spending a week, very tedious process, but it’s promising - our local ridge at Blairstown NJ looks really great even partially done.

[sisu1a]

On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 7:06:07 PM UTC-8, sisu1a wrote:
> https://www.facebook.com/CondorSim/
>
> Condor2 is finally here/around the corner. The new site is up, the old forum imported to the new one, and the store is up (buy links not active yet but prices are there)
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/order/?cn-reloaded=1#
>
> http://www.condorsoaring.com/forums/ (old forum towards bottom, threads still active)
>
> Yay!


Condor 2 is now Condor 2.01!

With this new patch comes some bugfixes and a graphics setting that will make it look much sharper now by default (anisotropic filtering) and the wonderful news that VR support is in the works.

http://www.condorsoaring.com/condor-news/condor-patch-2-0-1-released/

"For all the Virtual Reality fans: we have started the implementation of the Oculus Rift support so we hope you will soon be able to enjoy Condor 2 with your 3D goggles."

Yay!