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tango4
July 14th 04, 10:01 AM
I am about to go away on a gliding holiday and will probably be out of touch
with any OO's. Hoping to claim the next big badge I am arranging to have my
logger sealed into the glider with a lead seal or non replaceable sealing
tape as per the guidelines on being able to operate independently of OO's.

I am now informed that 'because no-one witnesses who is in the cockpit on
any particular flight there may be a problem with claiming the badge'.

Go figure! All that effort and the logger system falls flat on its arse! I'm
still tied to an observer!

Ian

Tim Newport-Peace
July 14th 04, 12:04 PM
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In article >, tango4
> writes
>I am about to go away on a gliding holiday and will probably be out of touch
>with any OO's. Hoping to claim the next big badge I am arranging to have my
>logger sealed into the glider with a lead seal or non replaceable sealing
>tape as per the guidelines on being able to operate independently of OO's.
>
>I am now informed that 'because no-one witnesses who is in the cockpit on
>any particular flight there may be a problem with claiming the badge'.
>
>Go figure! All that effort and the logger system falls flat on its arse! I'm
>still tied to an observer!
>
>Ian
>
>
Ian, go read the Sporting Code.

In particular Section 5.2.

"Evidence from air traffic control or club flying logs may be used"

Tim Newport-Peace

"Indecision is the Key to Flexibility."

Pete Reinhart
July 14th 04, 12:46 PM
Ian,
OOSSOO?
(Optional Off the Shelf Semi-Official Observers)
For non-record claims only?
It's silly isn't it?
Cheers!
"tango4" > wrote in message
...
> I am about to go away on a gliding holiday and will probably be out of
touch
> with any OO's. Hoping to claim the next big badge I am arranging to have
my
> logger sealed into the glider with a lead seal or non replaceable sealing
> tape as per the guidelines on being able to operate independently of OO's.
>
> I am now informed that 'because no-one witnesses who is in the cockpit on
> any particular flight there may be a problem with claiming the badge'.
>
> Go figure! All that effort and the logger system falls flat on its arse!
I'm
> still tied to an observer!
>
> Ian
>
>

Eric Greenwell
July 14th 04, 05:50 PM
tango4 wrote:
> I am about to go away on a gliding holiday and will probably be out of touch
> with any OO's. Hoping to claim the next big badge I am arranging to have my
> logger sealed into the glider with a lead seal or non replaceable sealing
> tape as per the guidelines on being able to operate independently of OO's.
>
> I am now informed that 'because no-one witnesses who is in the cockpit on
> any particular flight there may be a problem with claiming the badge'.
>
> Go figure! All that effort and the logger system falls flat on its arse! I'm
> still tied to an observer!

It doesn't have to be an Official Observer. You still need a witness for
who is in the cockpit and the landing/takeoff times, but it's usually
easier to find a witness than an OO. It certainly is at our airport.

Unless we go to an "honor" system, or put fingerprint sensors in the
cockpit (maybe not to hard to do, since at one PDA has it), we are stuck
with a witness to actually observe some aspect of the flight!

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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

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