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ken ward
July 16th 04, 01:24 AM
the airport manager shut down aerotow this morning at 10am; no other
operations were impacted. High Country is at Ely currently, and Soar
Minden has but one tow plane, so aerotow capability is already limited.
they've negotiated a temporary agreement for the duration of the fire,
but it limits the number of launches per hour. in any case, based on
what happens with the fire, aerotowing could be closed again any time.
a temporary tower arrived this morning. they've got 3 P-3s operating, 2
spotter planes, and 6 helicopters.

Ken

ken ward
July 17th 04, 02:13 AM
In article >,
ken ward > wrote:

> the airport manager shut down aerotow this morning at 10am; no other
> operations were impacted. High Country is at Ely currently, and Soar
> Minden has but one tow plane, so aerotow capability is already limited.
> they've negotiated a temporary agreement for the duration of the fire,
> but it limits the number of launches per hour. in any case, based on
> what happens with the fire, aerotowing could be closed again any time.
> a temporary tower arrived this morning. they've got 3 P-3s operating, 2
> spotter planes, and 6 helicopters.
>
> Ken

based on the airport management letter, aerotow launches today were
limited to four per hour, with landings allowed every 30 minutes. a
maximum of 15 gliders were permitted to be in the air at any one time.

one could question how these restrictions were arrived at.

Ken

bumper
July 17th 04, 08:36 PM
One could also wonder how restricting glider operations, without similarly
restricting non-emergency power operations, would not be discriminatory.

bumper

"ken ward" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> ken ward > wrote:
>
> > the airport manager shut down aerotow this morning at 10am; no other
> > operations were impacted. High Country is at Ely currently, and Soar
> > Minden has but one tow plane, so aerotow capability is already limited.
> > they've negotiated a temporary agreement for the duration of the fire,
> > but it limits the number of launches per hour. in any case, based on
> > what happens with the fire, aerotowing could be closed again any time.
> > a temporary tower arrived this morning. they've got 3 P-3s operating, 2
> > spotter planes, and 6 helicopters.
> >
> > Ken
>
> based on the airport management letter, aerotow launches today were
> limited to four per hour, with landings allowed every 30 minutes. a
> maximum of 15 gliders were permitted to be in the air at any one time.
>
> one could question how these restrictions were arrived at.
>
> Ken

f.blair
July 17th 04, 11:09 PM
maybe it is because the power planes can maneuver a littler better and might
have to do a 'go around' at the last moment because of a fire bomber coming
in, fewer gliders in the air means fewer chances for a problem in the
pattern

"bumper" > wrote in message
...
> One could also wonder how restricting glider operations, without similarly
> restricting non-emergency power operations, would not be discriminatory.
>
> bumper
>
> "ken ward" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > ken ward > wrote:
> >
> > > the airport manager shut down aerotow this morning at 10am; no other
> > > operations were impacted. High Country is at Ely currently, and Soar
> > > Minden has but one tow plane, so aerotow capability is already
limited.
> > > they've negotiated a temporary agreement for the duration of the fire,
> > > but it limits the number of launches per hour. in any case, based on
> > > what happens with the fire, aerotowing could be closed again any time.
> > > a temporary tower arrived this morning. they've got 3 P-3s operating,
2
> > > spotter planes, and 6 helicopters.
> > >
> > > Ken
> >
> > based on the airport management letter, aerotow launches today were
> > limited to four per hour, with landings allowed every 30 minutes. a
> > maximum of 15 gliders were permitted to be in the air at any one time.
> >
> > one could question how these restrictions were arrived at.
> >
> > Ken
>
>

Andy Blackburn
July 18th 04, 12:14 AM
Not sure exactly what it means to allow glider landings
every 30 minutes - it sounds potentially quite exciting!

9B

At 22:24 17 July 2004, F.Blair wrote:
>maybe it is because the power planes can maneuver a
>littler better and might
>have to do a 'go around' at the last moment because
>of a fire bomber coming
>in, fewer gliders in the air means fewer chances for
>a problem in the
>pattern
>
>'bumper' wrote in message
...
>>
>> One could also wonder how restricting glider operations,
>>without similarly
>> restricting non-emergency power operations, would
>>not be discriminatory.
>>
>> bumper
>>
>> 'ken ward' wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article ,
>> > ken ward wrote:
>> >
>> > > the airport manager shut down aerotow this morning
>>>>at 10am; no other
>> > > operations were impacted. High Country is at Ely
>>>>currently, and Soar
>> > > Minden has but one tow plane, so aerotow capability
>>>>is already
>limited.
>> > > they've negotiated a temporary agreement for the
>>>>duration of the fire,
>> > > but it limits the number of launches per hour.
>>>>in any case, based on
>> > > what happens with the fire, aerotowing could be
>>>>closed again any time.
>> > > a temporary tower arrived this morning. they've
>>>>got 3 P-3s operating,
>2
>> > > spotter planes, and 6 helicopters.
>> > >
>> > > Ken
>> >
>> > based on the airport management letter, aerotow launches
>>>today were
>> > limited to four per hour, with landings allowed every
>>>30 minutes. a
>> > maximum of 15 gliders were permitted to be in the
>>>air at any one time.
>> >
>> > one could question how these restrictions were arrived
>>>at.
>> >
>> > Ken
>>
>>
>
>
>

Eric Greenwell
July 18th 04, 12:51 AM
bumper wrote:
> One could also wonder how restricting glider operations, without similarly
> restricting non-emergency power operations, would not be discriminatory.

Were self-launching gliders restricted, or only towed gliders?

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ken ward
July 18th 04, 01:04 AM
In article >,
Eric Greenwell > wrote:

> bumper wrote:
> > One could also wonder how restricting glider operations, without similarly
> > restricting non-emergency power operations, would not be discriminatory.
>
> Were self-launching gliders restricted, or only towed gliders?

only aero tow operations. that restriction was lifted for today.

since Soar Minden has but one tow plane, SM aero tows were only
available to SM rentals and lessons, until those gliders were done for
the day. this will likely continue until a second tow plane is
available, perhaps mid next week.

Ken

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