L-23 for sale again

[Charles Longley]

http://home.nwi.net/~blanikam/ba/prod01.htm

[son_of_flubber]

Following this link I was surprised to see that this is a 'Brand New' L-23. Was it manufactured in 2017-18?

I learned to fly in an older L-23, so I'm a fan.

From a price and utility point of view, is a brand new L-23 competitive with a brand new PW-6?

[Tom[_21_]]

Very minimally equipped they say 75k euros which today is about $92,500. That's without shipping - so at this point based on this information it appears more expensive than the PW-6. One would probably want some more instruments as well.

Very interesting. I know a few pilots (who I regard with much respect) who love them.

Regards Tom

[son_of_flubber]

On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 2:52:21 PM UTC-4, Tom wrote:
> Very minimally equipped they say 75k euros which today is about $92,500. That's without shipping - so at this point based on this information it appears more expensive than the PW-6. One would probably want some more instruments as well.
>

$92,500 is the price for raw aluminum. Paint costs extra.

"Standard painting 5,670 EUR (US$ 7,000)" So US$100,000 (without a trailer)

[Charles Longley]

I’ve worked on L-23’s quite a bit. If it was me I would order the basic model and equip it in the US.

[John Foster]

On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 4:41:38 AM UTC-6, Charles Longley wrote:
> http://home.nwi.net/~blanikam/ba/prod01.htm

How does this compare to a brand new ASK 21?

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My experience with LET gliders suggests that going for the plain anodized finish is a better idea than getting them to paint the ship. Anodized aluminium isn't the easiest thing to get paint to stick to and the paint on our L-23's and L-33 deteriorated pretty quickly. L-23's are good training gliders (though they don't fly quite as nicely as the L-13 did) but when working out relative value for money I think you should look into the airframe life.. Our late model L-23 has a 6,000 hour airframe life (reduced sharply of we were to fly with the extended wingtips) and as far as I could find out there aren't any extension procedures to make it last longer. If anyone knows differently I would love to hear about it as it would give us more flexibility in updating the fleet.

[Charles Longley]

I am pretty sure you’re correct on the L-23. They are done at 6,000 hours as far as I know. There is a method to extend the L-13AC 2,000 hour limit 500 hours at a time.

If I was going to buy a new L-23 I would get it bare bones. Do the paint, interior and instruments in the US.

[son_of_flubber]

Here is a couple factory rebuilt L-13s (spar repaired) modified to have 6000 hours remaining on service life.

http://home.nwi.net/~blanikam/ba/exchange01.htm

~US$43,000

Interesting that the factory has some tricks to re-up the service life.

[Michael Opitz]

At 03:06 03 April 2018, son_of_flubber wrote:
>Here is a couple factory rebuilt L-13s (spar repaired) modified to have
>6000 hours remaining on service life.
>
>http://home.nwi.net/~blanikam/ba/exchange01.htm
>
>~US$43,000
>
>Interesting that the factory has some tricks to re-up the service life.
>
Try ~ USD $55k - $59K with shipping and open trailer.

RO

[Giaco]

On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 6:41:38 AM UTC-4, Charles Longley wrote:
> http://home.nwi.net/~blanikam/ba/prod01.htm

Website has some dated info too..."USAF Academy Dual Basic Training Glider of choice." USAFA Switched to the DG-1000 back in 2013!

That being said, I do love teaching in the back of an L-23. Spins are particularly fun.

[krasw]

On Sunday, 1 April 2018 09:16:06 UTC+3, John Foster wrote:
> On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 4:41:38 AM UTC-6, Charles Longley wrote:
> > http://home.nwi.net/~blanikam/ba/prod01.htm
>
> How does this compare to a brand new ASK 21?

Is this a serious question? :) Blanik was state of the art in 1956 though.