SGU 2-22

[Joe Rizzo]

Looking at purchasing my first glider. The 2-22 appeals to me as it fits my budget and my goals of just easy fun and giving rides. Any advice?

http://wingsandwheels.com/class/classified.php?id=2189

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If you want it to be "easy," get a hangar.

[Joe Rizzo]

I have one ;-)

[son_of_flubber]

I know a very nice intelligent guy who two years ago bought an old two place tube and fabric glider from a glider club where he had flown it. He bought a T-hanger at a different club to keep it in. The annual expired before he flew it. He took it to a local A&P IA who found damage from some hard landings. The repair costs were 2X what he had paid for the glider. The glider sat for a year. His hangar is now for sale.

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On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 6:00:45 PM UTC-6, Joe Rizzo wrote:
> Looking at purchasing my first glider. The 2-22 appeals to me as it fits my budget and my goals of just easy fun and giving rides. Any advice?
>
> http://wingsandwheels.com/class/classified.php?id=2189

Joe - Here's another option.....I am sure it is in outstanding condition!

http://wingsandwheels.com/class/classified.php?id=2736

[Tom BravoMike]

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 7:00:45 PM UTC-5, Joe Rizzo wrote:
> Looking at purchasing my first glider. The 2-22 appeals to me as it fits my budget and my goals of just easy fun and giving rides. Any advice?
>
> http://wingsandwheels.com/class/classified.php?id=2189

My advice: look for a Ka-8(b) or a PW-5; otherwise look for something within your budget here:

http://www.segelflug.de/osclass/index.php?page=search&sCategory=135

(add $1200 for your return flight to Europe and $2000 for shipping the glider to US, plus the time for paperwork).

[Duster[_2_]]

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 7:00:45 PM UTC-5, Joe Rizzo wrote:
> Looking at purchasing my first glider. The 2-22 appeals to me as it fits my budget and my goals of just easy fun and giving rides. Any advice?
>
> http://wingsandwheels.com/class/classified.php?id=218

In the early 90's, I flew that same 49Z during my training and winch sign-off. The 2-22's were well-built (tubular metal frame) and that one had an upgrade to the tail, I believe. The back seat is a bit cramped, but one person can haul it on the ground using the nose "handle". Not sexy, and no winglets, but fun to fly. Make sure you get an annual inspection and when you trade up it shouldn't have depreciated much if any.

Read the article about the 2-22 highlighted in April's "Soaring" rag.

[Jim Kellett]

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 8:00:45 PM UTC-4, Joe Rizzo wrote:
> Looking at purchasing my first glider. The 2-22 appeals to me as it fits my budget and my goals of just easy fun and giving rides. Any advice?

I learned to fly in one over a half-century ago. Better be good at slips, because the spoilers won't help much - of course, they come down pretty good due to poor performance. Uncomfortable back seat. You could do better for introducing people to the sport. On the other hand, it's a venerable antique and, IF WELL MAINTAINED, is a neat piece of history.

[PGS]

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 8:00:45 PM UTC-4, Joe Rizzo wrote:
> Looking at purchasing my first glider. The 2-22 appeals to me as it fits my budget and my goals of just easy fun and giving rides. Any advice?
>
> http://wingsandwheels.com/class/classified.php?id=2189

My advice would be sure to fly it before you commit to buying it.Years ago my club only had a 2-22, then added a 2-33. The 2-33 is significantly better in handling than the 2-22. I have vowed never to fly a 2-22 again, and I'll fly just about anything...

[Tony[_5_]]

That's an interesting anecdote because I've had the opposite experience. The 2-22C and E that I've flown have much nicer handling especially in roll response than the 2-33's I've flown.

I restored a 2-22E and have another one in process. Fun cheap two seater for training relatively lightweight pilots.

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Joe, Not sure you would fit in the back seat.

The L/D is 18. (If you're lucky.)

The 2-22 is usually known as "The Lead Sled".

Chuck Zabinski

[Joe Rizzo]

Good to know, thanks. Just possibly looking for something fun for my home airport.

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On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 7:00:45 PM UTC-5, Joe Rizzo wrote:
> Looking at purchasing my first glider. The 2-22 appeals to me as it fits my budget and my goals of just easy fun and giving rides. Any advice?
>
> http://wingsandwheels.com/class/classified.php?id=2189

The 2-22 is a simple, basic glider. It has better control harmony than a 2-33 and less performance. But especially when flying alone, it can be a floater. I've had the Wichita Soaring Association 2-22 at 10,400 feet above Sunflower in Kansas and spent a number of nice afternoons in it. If you are interested in just getting into the air and flying locally, it is a very economic way to have fun. It does not penetrate into the wind, but I still managed to have fun in windy Kansas.

[BobW]

On 4/11/2018 2:46 PM, Joe Rizzo wrote:
> Good to know, thanks. Just possibly looking for something fun for my home
> airport.

"What Tony C. and Neal P. said," regarding 2-22 vs. 2-33 handling. Way back in
the mid-'70s I flew (and soared) flavors of both from both's front/rear seats.
Raw-beginner-me back then thought the 2-22 handled like a sports car compared
to the 2-33 (well, maybe not a *sports* car, but "somewhat crisper/snappier"
than the venerable Dragmaster many still love to bash). The 2-22 was
definitely "not a penetrator!" even with two aboard. That said, the first guy
in the world to exceed 1,000K in a sailplane, bagged his Gold Distance in a
2-22...apparently it's less the ship than the brains in it! :)

Structurally, built like the proverbial brick poopiehouse; fun to visually
compare their metalwork to (say) a C-150 (and I'm not intending to bash
Cessnas)...C-150 and 2-22 "way back when" both kinda-sorta catering to similar
market segments.

5'9", 135 lb, me found the rear seat "cozy" in both gliders...

"Pilot, know thyself!" is always sage advice, IMO, and (also IMO) in many ways
it'd be hard to NOT have gobs of cheap, safe, low-maintenance-required soaring
fun in a kept-hangared 2-22.

Bob W.

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