Questions for SGS 2-33 Operators

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Hi all,

Our club, the Black Forest Soaring Society, is refurbishing our venerable 2-33. She's going to look real nice when we're finished.

During this refurb a couple of questions have come up and so I'm posing them to the group:

First, how many are still operating with the original, war surplus, seat belts and shoulder harnesses? If you've changed out, what are you using in their place?

Second, how many are still the interior panels, either from Schweizer or a third party? If not, what is your experience without them?

Thanks for your feedback!

Mark

[Roy B.]

I'm with 2 different clubs that have 2-33s. One replaced the belts with new Hooker belts, the other still uses the original. Both still struggle with the original interior panels. I would worry about protecting the inside of the fabric from cuts, scrapes and stains without them.

We have recently had a problem with the wood rudder cable guides and had to replace a set when the cables sawed through them. Make sure you do that on your rebuild. Also, the sprung tail wheel is very nice and avoids the bang on take off that upsets new students. Do that install if you can.

Good luck with the project. 2-33s are the J-3 Cubs of our sport!

ROY

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On Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 7:53:43 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Our club, the Black Forest Soaring Society, is refurbishing our venerable 2-33. She's going to look real nice when we're finished.
>
> During this refurb a couple of questions have come up and so I'm posing them to the group:
>
> First, how many are still operating with the original, war surplus, seat belts and shoulder harnesses? If you've changed out, what are you using in their place?
>
> Second, how many are still the interior panels, either from Schweizer or a third party? If not, what is your experience without them?
>
> Thanks for your feedback!
>
> Mark

Interior replacement parts are available and worth not spending time and effort saving old parts. You need those panels in
Replacement belts are available from Wag Aero, among others.
Good Luck
UH

[Paul Agnew]

Jason at Arizona Soaring has new interior panels. See his ad in the back of Soaring magazine.

Paul A.

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Further on the seat belts: another option is getting existing belts “re-webbed� at Aero Fabricators (part of Wag Aero.)
You remove and send in the old belts/shoulder harnesses and they replace the webbing in the fittings, matching the lengths etc.. Likely less $ then buying new assuming the metal fittings are still in good shape, and you can even pick the color.

A good idea to replace old, stiff, sweaty belts with new webbing of known condition and strength (and not sweaty).

https://www.wagaero.com/repair-station/seat-belt-and-shoulder-harnesses-repairs.html

L

[Tony[_5_]]

Yep i've had great experiences with Wag Aero re-webs on my Cherokee II and the 2-22E that I restored

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Thanks for the input everyone. I appreciate it.

Mark

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Just as a follow up: is anyone operating their 2-33 without the interior panels?

Mark

[Wyll Surf Air]

The Central California soaring Clubs old 2-33 Orange Crush didn't have interior panels. It worked okay but the inside of the fabric in the cockpit sustained a fair bit of damage due to UV and people getting in and out. Because there is no paint on the inside of the fabric it is more susceptible to damage. It was definitely not optimal but it did work ok.

[Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)]

We have 3 2-33's, all have interior panels.
One thing for the front panels, they prevent jamming the rear rudder cables......unless you have a "wide load" that may push the panels enough to drag against the pedals.

[Dan Marotta]

Could you not paint the inside of the fabric, or would that not be an
approved modification?Â* I would think your A&P could approve that.

On 7/1/2018 9:35 AM, Wyll Surf Air wrote:
> The Central California soaring Clubs old 2-33 Orange Crush didn't have interior panels. It worked okay but the inside of the fabric in the cockpit sustained a fair bit of damage due to UV and people getting in and out. Because there is no paint on the inside of the fabric it is more susceptible to damage. It was definitely not optimal but it did work ok.

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Dan, 5J