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From the cockpit, I want to transfer my flight log to my phone and email it to the contest scorer.
If your IGC approved logger is Bluetooth equipped and it is paired to your phone, is it just a simple matter of downloading log to phone and emailing the file?
Are there any "security" issues or 3rd party apps required?
Thanks for your input.
On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 10:46:01 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> From the cockpit, I want to transfer my flight log to my phone and email it to the contest scorer.
>
> If your IGC approved logger is Bluetooth equipped and it is paired to your phone, is it just a simple matter of downloading log to phone and emailing the file?
>
> Are there any "security" issues or 3rd party apps required?
>
> Thanks for your input.
Shouldn't be any problem. The security is built into the file contents, and is thus carried along when you email it.
In the recent Region One contest I wanted to configure the IGCdroid app - which already runs on my phone, and was my backup logger as well as providing real-time tracking - to automatically email the log file to the scorer directly. Meeting some reluctance on the part of the management, I only had it email it to myself. Then I forwarded that email to the scorer. Turns out the log file *name* was not acceptable to Winscore (fixed that by renaming it manually). The naming issue has since been fixed in the app, so be sure to get version 1.19 (or later) if you plan to do that.
Tony[_5_]
July 18th 18, 05:06 PM
LXNAV computers have this capability with their WiFi module
Craig Reinholt
July 18th 18, 08:27 PM
On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 7:46:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> From the cockpit, I want to transfer my flight log to my phone and email it to the contest scorer.
>
> If your IGC approved logger is Bluetooth equipped and it is paired to your phone, is it just a simple matter of downloading log to phone and emailing the file?
>
> Are there any "security" issues or 3rd party apps required?
>
> Thanks for your input.
If you have an iPhone, use a HooToo / lightning flash drive to download the file and then email it from your phone.
https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Connector-HooToo-External-iPlugmate/dp/B019W8N4DU/ref=lp_2529574011_1_5/133-2130488-2796502?srs=2529574011&ie=UTF8&qid=1531941921&sr=8-5
Here is a RAS thread discussing it.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topicsearchin/rec.aviation.soaring/Hootoo;context-place=searchin/rec.aviation.soaring/Hootoo%7Csort:date/rec.aviation.soaring/pV1zSqL9T_4
waremark
July 19th 18, 12:25 AM
I used the WiFi bridge to email the file from my lx9000 to the scorer using my phone as a hotspot. It worked well. I could also have used the file from my Oudie IGC which I can upload to the phone and to SeèYou cloud by Bluetooth from the Oudie logbook, running Oudie Live on the phone. I believe all Nano loggers also offer this.
On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 11:00:38 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 10:46:01 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> > From the cockpit, I want to transfer my flight log to my phone and email it to the contest scorer.
> >
> > If your IGC approved logger is Bluetooth equipped and it is paired to your phone, is it just a simple matter of downloading log to phone and emailing the file?
> >
> > Are there any "security" issues or 3rd party apps required?
> >
>
> Turns out the log file *name* was not acceptable to Winscore (fixed that by renaming it manually). The naming issue has since been fixed in the app, so be sure to get version 1.19 (or later) if you plan to do that.
Winscore expects log file names to conform to section A2.5 of the FAI Technical Specification for GNSS flight recorders.
2018-04-22-CNI-21Q-01.IGC -> Valid
JX_Smith_StdClass_Day1.IGC -> Not valid
On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 9:51:12 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 11:00:38 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 10:46:01 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> > > From the cockpit, I want to transfer my flight log to my phone and email it to the contest scorer.
> > >
> > > If your IGC approved logger is Bluetooth equipped and it is paired to your phone, is it just a simple matter of downloading log to phone and emailing the file?
> > >
> > > Are there any "security" issues or 3rd party apps required?
> > >
> >
> > Turns out the log file *name* was not acceptable to Winscore (fixed that by renaming it manually). The naming issue has since been fixed in the app, so be sure to get version 1.19 (or later) if you plan to do that.
>
> Winscore expects log file names to conform to section A2.5 of the FAI Technical Specification for GNSS flight recorders.
>
> 2018-04-22-CNI-21Q-01.IGC -> Valid
> JX_Smith_StdClass_Day1.IGC -> Not valid
Right. Silly though, since those rules still do not guarantee that the file names are unique (two of them could be 2018-04-22-XCS-AAA-01.IGC). On the other hand much more info (such as pilot name) is present in the header lines of the file contents. Anyway, the latest version of IGCdroid does name the files to fit those rules.
On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 1:05:19 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Thursday, July 19, 2018 at 9:51:12 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 11:00:38 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 10:46:01 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> > > > From the cockpit, I want to transfer my flight log to my phone and email it to the contest scorer.
> > > >
> > > > If your IGC approved logger is Bluetooth equipped and it is paired to your phone, is it just a simple matter of downloading log to phone and emailing the file?
> > > >
> > > > Are there any "security" issues or 3rd party apps required?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Turns out the log file *name* was not acceptable to Winscore (fixed that by renaming it manually). The naming issue has since been fixed in the app, so be sure to get version 1.19 (or later) if you plan to do that.
> >
> > Winscore expects log file names to conform to section A2.5 of the FAI Technical Specification for GNSS flight recorders.
> >
> > 2018-04-22-CNI-21Q-01.IGC -> Valid
> > JX_Smith_StdClass_Day1.IGC -> Not valid
>
> Right. Silly though, since those rules still do not guarantee that the file names are unique (two of them could be 2018-04-22-XCS-AAA-01.IGC). On the other hand much more info (such as pilot name) is present in the header lines of the file contents. Anyway, the latest version of IGCdroid does name the files to fit those rules.
Actually, the manufacture code and serial number in the file name should guarantee uniqueness.
SoaringXCellence
July 21st 18, 05:29 AM
The example given is actually one generated by the XCSoar program (hence the XCS in the middle of the file name). The program allows the user to chose any three characters for the "unique code" (AAA in this case).
So it is possible for there to be two files from different competitors with the same file name.
Having been a contest scorer for the last 4 years I know that this can occur and use the practice day or the first contest day to sort out those kind of conflicts.
Mike
Mike Clarke
August 2nd 18, 07:20 PM
At 19:27 18 July 2018, Craig Reinholt wrote:
>On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 7:46:01 AM UTC-7,
wrote:
>> From the cockpit, I want to transfer my flight log to my phone
and email
>it to the contest scorer.
>>
>> If your IGC approved logger is Bluetooth equipped and it is
paired to
>your phone, is it just a simple matter of downloading log to phone
and
>emailing the file?
>>
>> Are there any "security" issues or 3rd party apps required?
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>
>If you have an iPhone, use a HooToo / lightning flash drive to
download the
>file and then email it from your phone.
>https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Connector-HooToo-External-
iPlugmate/dp/B019W8N4DU/ref=lp_2529574011_1_5/133-
2130488-2796502?
srs=2529574011&ie=UTF8&qid=1531941921&sr=8-5
>Here is a RAS thread discussing it.
>https://groups.google.com/forum/?
fromgroups#!topicsearchin/rec.aviation.soaring/Hootoo;context-
place=searchin/rec.aviation.soaring/Hootoo%7Csort:date/rec.aviatio
n.soaring/pV1zSqL9T_4
>
I bought one to download flight logs from my LX907, but it is going
back as the LX doesn't recognise it. Neither does my Power Flarm.
MC
waremark
August 2nd 18, 08:57 PM
On Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:30:06 UTC+1, Mike Clarke wrote:
> >
> I bought one to download flight logs from my LX907, but it is going
> back as the LX doesn't recognise it. Neither does my Power Flarm.
>
> MC
What is that which you bought? I have a wifi module in my LX 9000, and I routinely email log files from the LX to myself (and/or a comp scorer). At my own club I do this via the club wifi which covers much of the airfield, and when elsewhere I use my phone as a wifi hotspot. Both work easily.
Before I had the wifi module I used to use the log files from my Oudie IGC, which I uploaded to SeeYou Cloud via Oudie Live on my phone using Bluetooth.
I get very excited about being able to use these toys!
Mike Clarke
August 2nd 18, 09:25 PM
At 19:57 02 August 2018, waremark wrote:
>On Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:30:06 UTC+1, Mike Clarke wrote:
>> >
>> I bought one to download flight logs from my LX907, but it is going=20
>> back as the LX doesn't recognise it. Neither does my Power Flarm.
>>=20
>> MC
>
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>
>I get very excited about being able to use these toys!
>
HooToo
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01HG88XMU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage
_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have so much going on behind my panel, I don't want to add further
complications this year.
MC
Dave Nadler
August 2nd 18, 10:27 PM
On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 4:30:07 PM UTC-4, Mike Clarke wrote:
> HooToo
> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01HG88XMU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage
> _o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
You've bought a larger 64GB unit which is problematic for embedded devices.
The HooToo that dozens of us used last 2 seasons is linked here:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.aviation.soaring/pV1zSqL9T_4/xLpOsfhnBQAJ
Hope that helps,
Best Regards, Dave
Mike Clarke
August 3rd 18, 12:41 AM
At 21:27 02 August 2018, Dave Nadler wrote:
>On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 4:30:07 PM UTC-4, Mike Clarke
wrote:
>> HooToo
>>
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01HG88XMU/ref=oh_aui_detai
lpage
>> _o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
>You've bought a larger 64GB unit which is problematic for embedded
devices.
>The HooToo that dozens of us used last 2 seasons is linked here:
>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.aviation.soaring/pV1zSqL9T_4/
xLpOsfhnBQAJ
>
>Hope that helps,
>Best Regards, Dave
>
Thanks very much Dave, I will swap it for a 32GB one.
Mike
Mike Clarke
August 6th 18, 11:27 PM
At 23:41 02 August 2018, Mike Clarke wrote:
>At 21:27 02 August 2018, Dave Nadler wrote:
>>On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 4:30:07 PM UTC-4, Mike Clarke
>wrote:
>>> HooToo
>>>
>https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01HG88XMU/ref=oh_aui_
detai
>lpage
>>> _o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>
>>You've bought a larger 64GB unit which is problematic for
embedded
>devices.
>>The HooToo that dozens of us used last 2 seasons is linked here:
>>https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.aviation.soaring/pV1zSqL9
T_4/
>xLpOsfhnBQAJ
>>
>>Hope that helps,
>>Best Regards, Dave
>>
>Thanks very much Dave, I will swap it for a 32GB one.
>
>Mike
>
Dave,
A replacement 32GB HooToo has arrived and works perfectly with
my Power Flarm and my LX9070. Thanks very much for your help.
Mike
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