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Dan Daly[_2_]
July 30th 18, 10:12 PM
While it is early, I can't help but notice the gliders in the top 20 of each of the first two days... ASG29 wins Day 1 (Diana3 second), JS-3 Day 2. Combined top 20 scoring so far: Eight JS-3 (1, 2, 8, 12, 12 (tie), 15, 16, 18). Eight Ventus3 (4, 4 (tie), 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 17), two ASG-29 (3, 14), one Ventus 2cxa FES (19), one JS-1C (20).

Gliders from 35th to 45th - seven ASG-29's; two JS-1's; two Ventus 2cx's...

https://www.soaringspot.com/en/35th-world-gliding-championships-hosin-2018/results/18-meter/task-2-on-2018-07-30/total .

It will be VERY interesting to see if strong conditions (1000 pt days) will shift things (685 pts Day 1, 804 Day 2).

What will Day 3 bring?

Andy Blackburn[_3_]
July 31st 18, 12:11 AM
On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 2:12:14 PM UTC-7, Dan Daly wrote:
> While it is early, I can't help but notice the gliders in the top 20 of each of the first two days... ASG29 wins Day 1 (Diana3 second), JS-3 Day 2. Combined top 20 scoring so far: Eight JS-3 (1, 2, 8, 12, 12 (tie), 15, 16, 18). Eight Ventus3 (4, 4 (tie), 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 17), two ASG-29 (3, 14), one Ventus 2cxa FES (19), one JS-1C (20).
>
> Gliders from 35th to 45th - seven ASG-29's; two JS-1's; two Ventus 2cx's....
>
> https://www.soaringspot.com/en/35th-world-gliding-championships-hosin-2018/results/18-meter/task-2-on-2018-07-30/total .
>
> It will be VERY interesting to see if strong conditions (1000 pt days) will shift things (685 pts Day 1, 804 Day 2).
>
> What will Day 3 bring?


For those keeping score at home it would appear the shiny new V3s and JS3s mostly went to the highest ranked pilots - and were pretty evenly distributed. Median FAI pilot ranking by glider:

V3: 64
JS3: 56
ASG29: 688

Ought to be a reasonable comparison of the two newest designs.

Andy
9B

Jonathan St. Cloud
July 31st 18, 03:30 AM
On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 4:11:14 PM UTC-7, Andy Blackburn wrote:
> On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 2:12:14 PM UTC-7, Dan Daly wrote:
> > While it is early, I can't help but notice the gliders in the top 20 of each of the first two days... ASG29 wins Day 1 (Diana3 second), JS-3 Day 2.. Combined top 20 scoring so far: Eight JS-3 (1, 2, 8, 12, 12 (tie), 15, 16, 18). Eight Ventus3 (4, 4 (tie), 6, 7, 9, 10, 11, 17), two ASG-29 (3, 14), one Ventus 2cxa FES (19), one JS-1C (20).
> >
> > Gliders from 35th to 45th - seven ASG-29's; two JS-1's; two Ventus 2cx's...
> >
> > https://www.soaringspot.com/en/35th-world-gliding-championships-hosin-2018/results/18-meter/task-2-on-2018-07-30/total .
> >
> > It will be VERY interesting to see if strong conditions (1000 pt days) will shift things (685 pts Day 1, 804 Day 2).
> >
> > What will Day 3 bring?
>
>
> For those keeping score at home it would appear the shiny new V3s and JS3s mostly went to the highest ranked pilots - and were pretty evenly distributed. Median FAI pilot ranking by glider:
>
> V3: 64
> JS3: 56
> ASG29: 688
>
> Ought to be a reasonable comparison of the two newest designs.
>
> Andy
> 9B

The new generation gliders flew in the 15 meter WGC and the pilots I corresponded with from that event thought, at least in 15 meter, there was no different between the last gen and current gen. The Dianna 2 was still considered the best glider, the V2 was still the best climber and the British reported no problems team flying wing tip to tip with a JS3 and ASG-29. Eighteen meter might be different.

July 31st 18, 09:49 AM
Plus an ASG29 is in second place overall after winning day 1. :)

July 31st 18, 01:32 PM
Maybe some planes are better than others...

....at finding the right pilots to fly them?

Jonathan St. Cloud
July 31st 18, 04:18 PM
On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:49:58 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> Plus an ASG29 is in second place overall after winning day 1. :)

In the 15 meter World's, an ASG-29 won and a Dianna 2 got second place, with a Ventus 2ax in fourth place. I am sure the pilots had some part in the excellent results. But are the next gen gliders actually better? One would think the V3 with a max wing loading of 11.3 pounds, will be at a disadvantage to the birds flying at 12 pounds or more.

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