Loading SUA File In ClearNav

[Dan Marotta]

I hope someone can help.Â* I'm in Montrose, CO on a gliding safari and
there are several fire TFRs in the area.Â* I have created a TFR file but
can't figure out how to load it into my ClearNav II flight computer.Â*
I've also looked through the ClearNav website and can't find the
information there.

I have created a directory structure on a USB stick which matches the
structure used by the CN Simulator.Â* The SUA file works on the simulator
but not in the aircraft.Â* I installed the stick before turning on the
CNII but when stepping through the menus to load an SUA file, I don't
find the file listed.Â* What am I missing?
--
Dan, 5J

[JS[_5_]]

On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 8:03:40 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> I hope someone can help.Â* I'm in Montrose, CO on a gliding safari and
> there are several fire TFRs in the area.Â* I have created a TFR file but
> can't figure out how to load it into my ClearNav II flight computer.Â*
> I've also looked through the ClearNav website and can't find the
> information there.
>
> I have created a directory structure on a USB stick which matches the
> structure used by the CN Simulator.Â* The SUA file works on the simulator
> but not in the aircraft.Â* I installed the stick before turning on the
> CNII but when stepping through the menus to load an SUA file, I don't
> find the file listed.Â* What am I missing?
> --
> Dan, 5J

Dan:
The airspace file (I prefer TXT to SUA) goes on the USB stick in the Map Data / SUAs folder.
Put the USB stick in and power up. At the prompt, update airspace. It prompts to remove USB and restart. Then go to the menu icon on the ribbon, tab with "no glider" icon, load.
Jim

[Dan Marotta]

Jim,

I'm pretty sure I've done everything exactly as you described except for
using the .txt suffix instead of .sua.Â* I'll give that a try.

Thanks,
Dan

On 8/8/2018 9:23 AM, JS wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 8:03:40 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> I hope someone can help.Â* I'm in Montrose, CO on a gliding safari and
>> there are several fire TFRs in the area.Â* I have created a TFR file but
>> can't figure out how to load it into my ClearNav II flight computer.
>> I've also looked through the ClearNav website and can't find the
>> information there.
>>
>> I have created a directory structure on a USB stick which matches the
>> structure used by the CN Simulator.Â* The SUA file works on the simulator
>> but not in the aircraft.Â* I installed the stick before turning on the
>> CNII but when stepping through the menus to load an SUA file, I don't
>> find the file listed.Â* What am I missing?
>> --
>> Dan, 5J
> Dan:
> The airspace file (I prefer TXT to SUA) goes on the USB stick in the Map Data / SUAs folder.
> Put the USB stick in and power up. At the prompt, update airspace. It prompts to remove USB and restart. Then go to the menu icon on the ribbon, tab with "no glider" icon, load.
> Jim

--
Dan, 5J

[Dan Marotta]

Well, I tried using a .txt suffix and the file was not found by the
simulator.Â* I changed the suffix back to .sua and was able to load and
view the TFRs on the simulator.

I'll try again at the glider today, but yesterday I did not get any
prompt to update files when I powered up with the stick already plugged in.

Are you out there, Evan?

Dan

On 8/8/2018 9:34 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I'm pretty sure I've done everything exactly as you described except
> for using the .txt suffix instead of .sua.Â* I'll give that a try.
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
> On 8/8/2018 9:23 AM, JS wrote:
>> On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 8:03:40 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>> I hope someone can help.Â* I'm in Montrose, CO on a gliding safari and
>>> there are several fire TFRs in the area.Â* I have created a TFR file but
>>> can't figure out how to load it into my ClearNav II flight computer.
>>> I've also looked through the ClearNav website and can't find the
>>> information there.
>>>
>>> I have created a directory structure on a USB stick which matches the
>>> structure used by the CN Simulator.Â* The SUA file works on the
>>> simulator
>>> but not in the aircraft.Â* I installed the stick before turning on the
>>> CNII but when stepping through the menus to load an SUA file, I don't
>>> find the file listed.Â* What am I missing?
>>> --
>>> Dan, 5J
>> Dan:
>> The airspace file (I prefer TXT to SUA) goes on the USB stick in the
>> Map Data / SUAs folder.
>> Put the USB stick in and power up. At the prompt, update airspace. It
>> prompts to remove USB and restart. Then go to the menu icon on the
>> ribbon, tab with "no glider" icon, load.
>> Jim
>

--
Dan, 5J

[Tim Newport-Peace[_4_]]

..TXT and .SUA are different formats and you can't convert between them by
just changing the suffix!

At 15:58 08 August 2018, Dan Marotta wrote:
>Well, I tried using a .txt suffix and the file was not found by the
>simulator.Â* I changed the suffix back to .sua and was able to load and
>view the TFRs on the simulator.
>
>I'll try again at the glider today, but yesterday I did not get any
>prompt to update files when I powered up with the stick already plugged
in.
>
>Are you out there, Evan?
>
>Dan
>
>On 8/8/2018 9:34 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Jim,
>>
>> I'm pretty sure I've done everything exactly as you described except
>> for using the .txt suffix instead of .sua.Â* I'll give that a try.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dan
>>
>> On 8/8/2018 9:23 AM, JS wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 8:03:40 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>>> I hope someone can help.Â* I'm in Montrose, CO on a gliding safari
and
>>>> there are several fire TFRs in the area.Â* I have created a TFR file
>but
>>>> can't figure out how to load it into my ClearNav II flight computer.
>>>> I've also looked through the ClearNav website and can't find the
>>>> information there.
>>>>
>>>> I have created a directory structure on a USB stick which matches the
>>>> structure used by the CN Simulator.Â* The SUA file works on the
>>>> simulator
>>>> but not in the aircraft.Â* I installed the stick before turning on
the
>>>> CNII but when stepping through the menus to load an SUA file, I don't
>>>> find the file listed.Â* What am I missing?
>>>> --
>>>> Dan, 5J
>>> Dan:
>>> The airspace file (I prefer TXT to SUA) goes on the USB stick in the
>>> Map Data / SUAs folder.
>>> Put the USB stick in and power up. At the prompt, update airspace. It
>>> prompts to remove USB and restart. Then go to the menu icon on the
>>> ribbon, tab with "no glider" icon, load.
>>> Jim
>>
>
>--
>Dan, 5J
>

[Tango Eight]

Hi Dan,

Can you send me the file you are trying to load or link me to where the file came from?

Evan Ludeman



On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 11:58:44 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Well, I tried using a .txt suffix and the file was not found by the
> simulator.Â* I changed the suffix back to .sua and was able to load and
> view the TFRs on the simulator.
>
> I'll try again at the glider today, but yesterday I did not get any
> prompt to update files when I powered up with the stick already plugged in.

[Tim Newport-Peace[_4_]]

.TXT and .SUA are different file formats. You can't translate them by just
changing the file .prefix!

At 15:58 08 August 2018, Dan Marotta wrote:
>Well, I tried using a .txt suffix and the file was not found by the
>simulator.Â* I changed the suffix back to .sua and was able to load and
>view the TFRs on the simulator.
>
>I'll try again at the glider today, but yesterday I did not get any
>prompt to update files when I powered up with the stick already plugged
in.
>
>Are you out there, Evan?
>
>Dan
>
>On 8/8/2018 9:34 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Jim,
>>
>> I'm pretty sure I've done everything exactly as you described except
>> for using the .txt suffix instead of .sua.Â* I'll give that a try.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dan
>>
>> On 8/8/2018 9:23 AM, JS wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 8:03:40 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>>> I hope someone can help.Â* I'm in Montrose, CO on a gliding safari
and
>>>> there are several fire TFRs in the area.Â* I have created a TFR file
>but
>>>> can't figure out how to load it into my ClearNav II flight computer.
>>>> I've also looked through the ClearNav website and can't find the
>>>> information there.
>>>>
>>>> I have created a directory structure on a USB stick which matches the
>>>> structure used by the CN Simulator.Â* The SUA file works on the
>>>> simulator
>>>> but not in the aircraft.Â* I installed the stick before turning on
the
>>>> CNII but when stepping through the menus to load an SUA file, I don't
>>>> find the file listed.Â* What am I missing?
>>>> --
>>>> Dan, 5J
>>> Dan:
>>> The airspace file (I prefer TXT to SUA) goes on the USB stick in the
>>> Map Data / SUAs folder.
>>> Put the USB stick in and power up. At the prompt, update airspace. It
>>> prompts to remove USB and restart. Then go to the menu icon on the
>>> ribbon, tab with "no glider" icon, load.
>>> Jim
>>
>
>--
>Dan, 5J
>

[Dan Marotta]

Yup, I knew that.Â* I created the file in a text editor and it added the
..txt suffix by default.Â* I changed that.

I think the problem is with the stick format and the lack of the
ClearNav updater executable.Â* I'm headed out to the glider now to try it
out.

On 8/8/2018 10:08 AM, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:
> .TXT and .SUA are different formats and you can't convert between them by
> just changing the suffix!
>
> At 15:58 08 August 2018, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Well, I tried using a .txt suffix and the file was not found by the
>> simulator.ÂÂ* I changed the suffix back to .sua and was able to load and
>> view the TFRs on the simulator.
>>
>> I'll try again at the glider today, but yesterday I did not get any
>> prompt to update files when I powered up with the stick already plugged
> in.
>> Are you out there, Evan?
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On 8/8/2018 9:34 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>> Jim,
>>>
>>> I'm pretty sure I've done everything exactly as you described except
>>> for using the .txt suffix instead of .sua.ÂÂ* I'll give that a try.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> On 8/8/2018 9:23 AM, JS wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, August 8, 2018 at 8:03:40 AM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>>>> I hope someone can help.ÂÂ* I'm in Montrose, CO on a gliding safari
> and
>>>>> there are several fire TFRs in the area.ÂÂ* I have created a TFR file
>> but
>>>>> can't figure out how to load it into my ClearNav II flight computer.
>>>>> I've also looked through the ClearNav website and can't find the
>>>>> information there.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have created a directory structure on a USB stick which matches the
>>>>> structure used by the CN Simulator.ÂÂ* The SUA file works on the
>>>>> simulator
>>>>> but not in the aircraft.ÂÂ* I installed the stick before turning on
> the
>>>>> CNII but when stepping through the menus to load an SUA file, I don't
>>>>> find the file listed.ÂÂ* What am I missing?
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dan, 5J
>>>> Dan:
>>>> The airspace file (I prefer TXT to SUA) goes on the USB stick in the
>>>> Map Data / SUAs folder.
>>>> Put the USB stick in and power up. At the prompt, update airspace. It
>>>> prompts to remove USB and restart. Then go to the menu icon on the
>>>> ribbon, tab with "no glider" icon, load.
>>>> Jim
>> --
>> Dan, 5J
>>

--
Dan, 5J

[Tango Eight]

Dan sent me his .sua file and it's a valid .sua, works in my ClearNav PC sim. I suspect the issue has to do with his usb. reply sent...

It's rarely required, but if you ever lose your CN usb or need to rebuild it for some reason, the usb contents including the updater are archived on the CN downloads page. Note that the usb updaters for CN1 and CN2 are different (and so labelled).

best regards,

Evan Ludeman

[Dan Marotta]

Got it fixed!Â* The problem was that I removed the updater file from the
stick a long time ago and this was the first time I tried to make a
change and I simply forgot how.Â* I'm a systems engineer, not a software
engineer, but I wonder why the programmers would not have made it so
that simply having the file on the stick and selecting the menu item to
load a particular file would work in real time rather than at boot up.

Or is that it's a real time program and not capable of such things as
making changes on the fly?Â* Anyway, I got it working but there was so
much smoke in the air around Montrose, CO that I didn't fly today but
instead made a road trip.

Thanks to all who pitched in.

Dan

On 8/8/2018 1:11 PM, Tango Eight wrote:
> Dan sent me his .sua file and it's a valid .sua, works in my ClearNav PC sim. I suspect the issue has to do with his usb. reply sent...
>
> It's rarely required, but if you ever lose your CN usb or need to rebuild it for some reason, the usb contents including the updater are archived on the CN downloads page. Note that the usb updaters for CN1 and CN2 are different (and so labelled).
>
> best regards,
>
> Evan Ludeman

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Dan, 5J