Re: OSH '04 -- Best ever?

[Casey Wilson]

"Jim Weir" > wrote in message
...
> Well, kids, I learned a few lessons from this Oshkosh that the previous 31
> hadn't taught me...
>
>

Wonderful story, Jim! It confirms the suspicion that there are still
a bunch of great folks out there.

Casey

[Jim Weir]

Comin' home.

Jim



"Rich S." >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->
->Were you going to OSH or on your way home?
->
->Rich S.
->

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Jack Allison]

> 1. Gail went to Oshkosh in a $50,000 Cessna 182 and returned home in a $450,000
> Greyhound.

Hmmm, sounds like a good ROI to me...then again, turning an airplane
into a bus isn't exactly the right direction :-)

Agreed that the folks at Rawlins are great. Last year, that was our
spot to stay for the night. They'd just re-paved (and added, I think)
to the ramp area. Unfortunately, the construction guys pulled the tie
down anchors a few days prior. It took some time but the guy at La
France rounded up the construction folks and they strung a few cables.
By that time, we'd opted to field test our brand new OSH tie down
anchors (made straight from the website).

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL, IA Student

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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[Jerry Kurata]

Wow!

When did this happen? I probably flew right over the area on Monday Aug 5th
on the way back from OSH.

jerry

"Jim Weir" > wrote in message
...
> Well, kids, I learned a few lessons from this Oshkosh that the previous 31
> hadn't taught me...
>
>
> 1. Gail went to Oshkosh in a $50,000 Cessna 182 and returned home in a
$450,000
> Greyhound.
>
> 2. A cylinder with less than 300 hours on it since the best engine shop
in
> Northern California inspected, overhauled, chromed, then replaced all
moving
> parts with new CAN and WILL crack in two with absolutely no forewarning.
>
> 3. Oil pours out of a cracked cylinder at a fairly rapid rate.
Fortunately,
> the engine shakes so hard that it isn't rocket science to figure that you
have
> to shut the sucker off before all the oil blows out the hole.
>
> 4. Hanna WY may not be the end of the world, but you can see it from
there.
>
> 5. There are no airports on the Continental Divide between Medicine Bow
and
> Rawlins WY, a distance of some 50 miles. Hanna is roughly halfway between
the
> two.
>
> 6. God bless the kids of Hanna, who took the old dirt strip that had been
there
> thirty years ago and maintained it as a mile-long drag strip at 7000 MSL.
The
> cows on the runway are a particularly bucolic touch.
>
> 7. It is possible to do a field removal and replacement of a cylinder
with
> little more than a bent screwdriver and a busted crescent wrench borrowed
from a
> mechanic in Rawlins. (Well, that and cylinder base wrenches and a torque
> wrench...but damned little else.) It takes three full days out in the
field to
> change a jug...one day to pull all the small baffle-induction-exhaust
parts, one
> day to pull the jug itself and take it back to the shop, and one day to
> reinstall a serviceable jug. Some day I'm going to meet the b@$!@&d at
> Continental that designed the pushrod tubes and "discuss" the design with
him.
>
> 8. It makes it a little more difficult when the wind blows at a steady
twenty
> to thirty knots and you are out in the open field for three days doing
this
> operation, but it builds character. You know the work day is over when
the late
> afternoon thunderstorm is bouncing the airplane around to the point where
the
> wrench won't stay on the nut. Besides, on the top of the highest point
for
> twenty miles in any direction in an open field during a thunderstorm is
.... ummm
> ... interesting.
>
> 9. It is also interesting to drive the old airport beater diesel truck
the 40
> miles of mountain roads from Rawlins to Hanna only to find that you left
the
> 7/8" spark plug wrench on the workbench in Rawlins.
>
>
> 10. This world has some absolutely wonderful people in it. In no
particular
> order they are:
>
> Kevin and Roxy Bell, Zacharia and Stephanie. Owners of Hanna
> Unintentional Airport. They came out at least once a day to see if there
was
> anything they could do or help with.
>
> Deputy Sheriff Jack Lowrance (interesting last name, eh? ... aren't
> coincidences God's little jokes?). Drove us from Hanna to Rawlins and
wouldn't
> leave until we had all our stuff arranged and taken care of.
>
> Dwight and ?Bonnie? France, France Flying Service, Rawlins WY. Loaned
> us the airport truck, let us pester the mechanic, ordered our cylinder,
and
> charged us practically nothing for the trouble except the actual cost of
the
> parts.
>
> Bill the Mechanic, FFS, Rawlins WY. Loaned us any tool we wanted, no
> questions asked, let me use the Continental Overhaul manual, and
alternately
> patted me on the back and kicked my butt until the job got done.
>
> Dave Winder, Mechanic In Training, FFS, Rawlins WY. Mechanic in
> training only because he is six months short of the 30 months necessary to
take
> the A&P exam. If anybody in this ng, ANYBODY wants a mechanic that knows
more
> about airplanes than 99% of the mechanics in the world, works his ass off
under
> conditions that most of us would sit around waiting for better times, and
in
> general is one hell of a worker, I'm sure David would appreciate hearing
from
> you. From scratch, Dave and I started at 1 pm to replace the cylinder,
and by 4
> pm we had it run up, cowled, and ready to depart. Remember, this is out
in the
> TALL tules under primitive conditions, with only the tools we remembered
to
> take.
>
>
> If you EVER meet ANY of these folks, I'd appreciate it if you would give
them my
> regards and buy them a beer for me. They are what makes aviation go.
>
>
> Anyway, 2004 was an Oshkosh that will go into my scrapbook for a long,
long
> time.
>
> Good to be back home.
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
> VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
> http://www.rst-engr.com

[John Ousterhout]

On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 09:08:28 -0700, Jim Weir > wrote:

>31 July 2004 (Saturday) at approximately 1400MDT the engine said, "I don't like
>you any more." Landed at Hanna Unintentional Drag Strip. Sheriff motored me
>into Rawlins where I bummed a phillips screwdriver and crescent wrench from Bill
>The Mechanic (hell of a nice guy). Took the beater diesel airport truck back
>out to the airplane to prowl around and see what I could find. It got dark
>before I got too far.
>
>Sunday put Gail on the bus at 11 and then motored out to the airplane. Tore off
>the cowling to find out what was wrong. Found a crack in the #3 jug immediately
>(oil all over the place). Tore off all the peripherals (baffling, straps, etc.)
>that you could get with a screwdriver and crescent wrench -literally-. Quit
>during the 1800MDT thunderstorm and went back to the motel.
>
>Monday went out bright and early with cylinder base wrenches and other "real"
>tools and tore off the jug. Brought it back to Rawlins where we measured the
>defect and got on the horn to Firewall Forward in Colorado. They had a used
>serviceable jug and piston/rings that they put on UPS-Next Day. I took a gallon
>of solvent and went back to the field to clean up the oily and greasy small
>parts mess.
>
>Somewhat late Tuesday morning the jug got to Rawlins on the lawnmower.
>David-Mechanic-In-Training and I got to the airplane by 1 and by 5 I departed
>Hanna and had the airplane back in Rawlins for another post-operation
>inspection.
>
>Wednesday morning launched Rawlins, stopped in Elko for fuel, and to Grass
>Valley by mid-afternoon.

Good thing you had an A&P with you. :-)

Welcome back.

- J.O.-

[nafod40]

B2431 wrote:
>>From: "Russell Kent"
>>Date: 8/5/2004 3:56 PM Central Daylight Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>Jim Weir >
>>[snip]
>>
>>>Besides, on the top of the highest point for twenty miles in any
>>>direction in an open field during a thunderstorm is ... ummm
>>>... interesting.
>>
>>Uh, Jim, I suspect the majority of us would prefer that you NOT try to make
>>that moniker of yours ("Sparky") literal...
>
> I find it shocking you'd make light of this.

Re-volting, wasn't it?

[Rich S.]

"John Ousterhout" wrote in message
>
> Good thing you had an A&P with you. :-)

He didn't need one, JO. He was still 6813' ASL, carrying out emergency
mid-flight repairs.

Rich "Get high in Wyoming" S.

[Jim Weir]

If anybody has access to a topo map of this area and can pick off the eastern
end altitude of this runway, I'd certainly appreciate it. The runway is
approximately 5 miles south of Hanna WY, 2 miles south of the highway junction
of the road to Elk Mountain and the road to Medicine Bow, both of which
intercept I-80 at their southern end.

I'm gonna make those nice folks in Hanna a sign for Hanna Unintentional Airport.


Jim



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Steven P. McNicoll]

"Jim Weir" > wrote in message
...
>
> If anybody has access to a topo map of this area and can pick off the
eastern
> end altitude of this runway, I'd certainly appreciate it. The runway is
> approximately 5 miles south of Hanna WY, 2 miles south of the highway
junction
> of the road to Elk Mountain and the road to Medicine Bow, both of which
> intercept I-80 at their southern end.
>
> I'm gonna make those nice folks in Hanna a sign for Hanna Unintentional
Airport.
>

I don't have a topographic map of this area, but I do have a lot of old
sectionals. Hanna Airport appears on the Cheyenne sectional dated March 12,
1987. The field elevation is shown as 7100'.

[Jon Woellhaf]

Jim,

My Garmin MapSource Topo USA CD shows an "Airport Runway" which would be
identified as 6-24, 1.9 miles southeast of the junction of US 287 and Hwy
72. It's about 3.3 miles southeast of Hanna. The runway crosses the 7087
contour line several times, with the western end right on the line and the
eastern end a little lower. Interpolating, probably half way between 7087
and 7021 or about 7050 feet.

Jon

"Jim Weir" > wrote in message
...
> If anybody has access to a topo map of this area and can pick off the
eastern
> end altitude of this runway, I'd certainly appreciate it. The runway is
> approximately 5 miles south of Hanna WY, 2 miles south of the highway
junction
> of the road to Elk Mountain and the road to Medicine Bow, both of which
> intercept I-80 at their southern end.
>
> I'm gonna make those nice folks in Hanna a sign for Hanna Unintentional
Airport.
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
> VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
> http://www.rst-engr.com

[Jim Weir]

Thank you all for the Hanna airport info. Combining data from all three of the
sources I was given says the following:

Hanna Unintentional Airport
Bell Field
Elevation - 7083
Runway - 06-24 gravel/weeds
Latitude - 41°49'49.8" (41.8305°)
Longitude - 106°32'02.8" (106.5341°)

That oughta be enough for a 2' x 4' sign, don'cha think?

Jim


Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Jon Woellhaf]

I love that name, "Hanna Unintentional Airport!"

A couple years ago I was on a helicopter ride east of Price, UT and we flew
by a runway like the one in Hanna that's identified on the MapSource topo as
"Interplanetary Airport."

[Jim Weir]

Are you talking about Green River Intergalactic Airport just west of Rock
Springs?

Jim


"Jon Woellhaf" >
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

->I love that name, "Hanna Unintentional Airport!"
->
->A couple years ago I was on a helicopter ride east of Price, UT and we flew
->by a runway like the one in Hanna that's identified on the MapSource topo as
->"Interplanetary Airport."
->

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com

[Jon Woellhaf]

Nope, Interplanetary is about 26 statute miles northeast of Price Carbon
County (KPUC), UT.

I guess "Intergalactic" trumps Interplanetary. On my topo it's identified as
"Gtr Green River Intergalactic" -- so as not to be confused with Lesser
Green River Intergalactic, I suppose.

"Jim Weir" > wrote in message
...
> Are you talking about Green River Intergalactic Airport just west of Rock
> Springs?
>
> Jim

[Morgans]

"B2431" > wrote
>
> I got a charge out of it.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Y'all keep this up, and you will galvanize public opinion, like a lightning
rod.
--
Jim in NC


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[Richard Lamb]

Morgans wrote:
>
> "B2431" > wrote
> >
> > I got a charge out of it.
> >
> > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
> Y'all keep this up, and you will galvanize public opinion, like a lightning
> rod.
> --
> Jim in NC



Aw hell! Yer all GROUNDED!

[jls]

"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 21:37:55 -0400, "Morgans" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"B2431" > wrote
> >>
> >> I got a charge out of it.
> >>
> >> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
> >
> >Y'all keep this up, and you will galvanize public opinion, like a
lightning
> >rod.
>
> Is it too late to coloumb to the bandwagon?
>
> Ron Wanttaja

You'll get no resistance from me.

[Sean Trost]

ohm.....I don't mind.

Ron Wanttaja wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 21:37:55 -0400, "Morgans" >
> wrote:
>
>
>>"B2431" > wrote
>>
>>>I got a charge out of it.
>>>
>>>Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>>
>>Y'all keep this up, and you will galvanize public opinion, like a lightning
>>rod.
>
>
> Is it too late to coloumb to the bandwagon?
>
> Ron Wanttaja

[John Ammeter]

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:07:02 -0400, " jls"
> wrote:

>
>"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message
...
>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 21:37:55 -0400, "Morgans" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"B2431" > wrote
>> >>
>> >> I got a charge out of it.
>> >>
>> >> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>> >
>> >Y'all keep this up, and you will galvanize public opinion, like a
>lightning
>> >rod.
>>
>> Is it too late to coloumb to the bandwagon?
>>
>> Ron Wanttaja
>
>You'll get no resistance from me.
>


Please no MHO...

John

[Robert Bonomi]

In article >,
jls > wrote:
>
>"Ron Wanttaja" > wrote in message
...
>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 21:37:55 -0400, "Morgans" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"B2431" > wrote
>> >>
>> >> I got a charge out of it.
>> >>
>> >> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>> >
>> >Y'all keep this up, and you will galvanize public opinion, like a
>lightning
>> >rod.
>>
>> Is it too late to coloumb to the bandwagon?
>>
>> Ron Wanttaja
>
>You'll get no resistance from me.
>
>


without reluctance, I add --

0 Henry! No Mho.

[King Faraday]

In article >,
Ron Wanttaja > wrote:
>On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 21:37:55 -0400, "Morgans" >
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"B2431" > wrote
>>>
>>> I got a charge out of it.
>>>
>>> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>>
>>Y'all keep this up, and you will galvanize public opinion, like a lightning
>>rod.
>
>Is it too late to coloumb to the bandwagon?
>
>Ron Wanttaja


Consider yourselves warned.

I have the capacity for a near-unlimited number of such remarks.

Some will get a charge out of them, others will merely find them shocking.

I've got so many of them, I was crowned King Faraday.

[Del Rawlins]

On 10 Aug 2004 20:15:51 -0700, ChuckSlusarczyk
> wrote:

>In article >, John Ammeter says...
>>
>>
>>Please no MHO...
>>
>>John
>
>Come on you guys "Watts" up with thread? :-)
>
>Chuck ("ohm" just one of the guys) S

Not since your induction into the hall of fame. I know that was bad
but I couldn't resist.


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[nafod40]

Del Rawlins wrote:
>>>
>>>Please no MHO...
>>>
>>>John
>>
>>Come on you guys "Watts" up with thread? :-)
>>
>>Chuck ("ohm" just one of the guys) S
>
>
> Not since your induction into the hall of fame. I know that was bad
> but I couldn't resist.

Ampere joule agree this has gone too far.

[Matt Whiting]

King Faraday wrote:
> In article >,
> Ron Wanttaja > wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 21:37:55 -0400, "Morgans" >
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"B2431" > wrote
>>>
>>>>I got a charge out of it.
>>>>
>>>>Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>>>
>>>Y'all keep this up, and you will galvanize public opinion, like a lightning
>>>rod.
>>
>>Is it too late to coloumb to the bandwagon?
>>
>>Ron Wanttaja
>
>
>
> Consider yourselves warned.
>
> I have the capacity for a near-unlimited number of such remarks.
>
> Some will get a charge out of them, others will merely find them shocking.
>
> I've got so many of them, I was crowned King Faraday.
>
>
>

I found the thread electrifying at first, but now it just leaves me drained.


Matt

[Rich S.]

"Matt Whiting" > wrote in message
...
>
> I found the thread electrifying at first, but now it just leaves me
drained.


Don't be so negative!

Rich S.

[Del Rawlins]

On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 08:10:51 -0400, nafod40 >
wrote:

>Del Rawlins wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Please no MHO...
>>>>
>>>>John
>>>
>>>Come on you guys "Watts" up with thread? :-)
>>>
>>>Chuck ("ohm" just one of the guys) S
>>
>>
>> Not since your induction into the hall of fame. I know that was bad
>> but I couldn't resist.
>
>Ampere joule agree this has gone too far.

Anode when I posted to this thread it was winding down, and diode it
to you all to shunt the hell up but I acted purely out of impulse.

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[Robert Bonomi]

In article >,
Matt Whiting > wrote:
>King Faraday wrote:
>> In article >,
>> Ron Wanttaja > wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 21:37:55 -0400, "Morgans" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"B2431" > wrote
>>>>
>>>>>I got a charge out of it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>>>>
>>>>Y'all keep this up, and you will galvanize public opinion, like a lightning
>>>>rod.
>>>
>>>Is it too late to coloumb to the bandwagon?
>>>
>>>Ron Wanttaja
>>
>>
>>
>> Consider yourselves warned.
>>
>> I have the capacity for a near-unlimited number of such remarks.
>>
>> Some will get a charge out of them, others will merely find them shocking.
>>
>> I've got so many of them, I was crowned King Faraday.
>>
>I found the thread electrifying at first, but now it just leaves me drained.

This brand of humor, on this subject, is popular enough to have a national
holiday in it's honor. People did get a little staticky when it was named
Coloumbus Day Appropriate though, it all started with the Queen's joules.

It's ampere-ically self-evident -- A.C. jokes are RE-volt-ing.

Then there was the guy who paid by credit-card for the modification to the
hybrid vacuum-tube/field-effect-transistor circuit -- when his next AMEX
statement came, he had a current charge for the tap on the grid-leak being
diverted to the sink and thence to the drain.

[StellaStar]

>Coloumbus Day Appropriate though, it all started with the Queen's joules.

What a revoltin' development!