New SkySight color scheme

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Just had a look at the "new and improved" coloring of forecast maps in SkySight. In the areas East of the Mississippi, are we ever going to see the warmer colors or even green again for thermal height? I know the answer: Nope
Is Matt's favorite movie 'Frozen'?
Herb

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I guess if it turns yellow or red you have better banked up some goodwill with the wife so you can go outside and play on those days. Sandhill is just 4sm from Hell. Literally. Hell, Michigan. We like warmer colors there Matt.

Also...

Note to club instructors: On days like these, please switch it up a bit and take your students soaring for a change of pace. Show them what they're working towards ultimately and set the hook! Thanks.

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On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 10:13:13 PM UTC+2, wrote:
> I guess if it turns yellow or red you have better banked up some goodwill with the wife so you can go outside and play on those days. Sandhill is just 4sm from Hell. Literally. Hell, Michigan. We like warmer colors there Matt.
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> Also...
>
> Note to club instructors: On days like these, please switch it up a bit and take your students soaring for a change of pace. Show them what they're working towards ultimately and set the hook! Thanks.

It's the fall special, a collaboration with SkySight and Disney. You get a free Elsa doll with every subscription and a personally sung rendition of "Let It Go".

I have changed the colour scale to something more 'optimistic' for Eastern USA. Part of the upgrades we're launching at the moment will let you choose scales/colour schemes of your own liking.

As usual it's better to email or use the website support rather than post here, as I only sporadically check RAS (only every hour or so apparently)

[Paul Agnew]

I hope one of the options is to revert to the original color scheme. There is a learning curve when you start using a new piece of software and having the color scheme in mind made it easier to quickly discern the conditions for the day. Now, I'm having to go back and forth to the color bar on the right to relearn how to read the charts.

PA

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On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 8:08:39 PM UTC+1, Paul Agnew wrote:
> I hope one of the options is to revert to the original color scheme. There is a learning curve when you start using a new piece of software and having the color scheme in mind made it easier to quickly discern the conditions for the day. Now, I'm having to go back and forth to the color bar on the right to relearn how to read the charts.
>
> PA

You can get the original version at old.skysight.io

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On Wednesday, 24 October 2018 22:32:31 UTC+2, wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 8:08:39 PM UTC+1, Paul Agnew wrote:
> > I hope one of the options is to revert to the original color scheme. There is a learning curve when you start using a new piece of software and having the color scheme in mind made it easier to quickly discern the conditions for the day. Now, I'm having to go back and forth to the color bar on the right to relearn how to read the charts.
> >
> > PA
>
> You can get the original version at old.skysight.io

I do apologise for inconvenience caused, we tried not to surprise anyone by having a long beta period and now drip feeding the improvements rather than doing them all at once.

The new colour scheme is very similar to the previous version, just with a slightly expanded range of colours - one of the most common criticisms of the previous version was trouble identifying the difference between one colour and the next, so by stretching the colour palette slightly we're able to increase the difference between steps.

As mentioned above, we are working on adding some degree of user control to the scales, mostly for the intent of serving our colourblind users with a couple more choices, but if demand is there it will be extended further to support other weird and wonderful scales of your choosing.

https://old.skysight.io/ has the previous version of SkySight and it will remain available until we're sure everyone has been able to get onto the new site and their needs are being met. We are not seeing much traffic to the old site, so I am hoping most people are happy with the ongoing developments.

Regards,
Matthew

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On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 10:01:36 PM UTC+1, wrote:
> On Wednesday, 24 October 2018 22:32:31 UTC+2, wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 8:08:39 PM UTC+1, Paul Agnew wrote:
> > > I hope one of the options is to revert to the original color scheme. There is a learning curve when you start using a new piece of software and having the color scheme in mind made it easier to quickly discern the conditions for the day. Now, I'm having to go back and forth to the color bar on the right to relearn how to read the charts.
> > >
> > > PA
> >
> > You can get the original version at old.skysight.io
>
> I do apologise for inconvenience caused, we tried not to surprise anyone by having a long beta period and now drip feeding the improvements rather than doing them all at once.
>
> The new colour scheme is very similar to the previous version, just with a slightly expanded range of colours - one of the most common criticisms of the previous version was trouble identifying the difference between one colour and the next, so by stretching the colour palette slightly we're able to increase the difference between steps.
>
> As mentioned above, we are working on adding some degree of user control to the scales, mostly for the intent of serving our colourblind users with a couple more choices, but if demand is there it will be extended further to support other weird and wonderful scales of your choosing.
>
> https://old.skysight.io/ has the previous version of SkySight and it will remain available until we're sure everyone has been able to get onto the new site and their needs are being met. We are not seeing much traffic to the old site, so I am hoping most people are happy with the ongoing developments.
>
> Regards,
> Matthew

I may be dim but I can't find a fader for the colours on the new version.

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On Wednesday, 24 October 2018 23:54:23 UTC+2, wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 10:01:36 PM UTC+1, wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 24 October 2018 22:32:31 UTC+2, wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 8:08:39 PM UTC+1, Paul Agnew wrote:
> > > > I hope one of the options is to revert to the original color scheme.. There is a learning curve when you start using a new piece of software and having the color scheme in mind made it easier to quickly discern the conditions for the day. Now, I'm having to go back and forth to the color bar on the right to relearn how to read the charts.
> > > >
> > > > PA
> > >
> > > You can get the original version at old.skysight.io
> >
> > I do apologise for inconvenience caused, we tried not to surprise anyone by having a long beta period and now drip feeding the improvements rather than doing them all at once.
> >
> > The new colour scheme is very similar to the previous version, just with a slightly expanded range of colours - one of the most common criticisms of the previous version was trouble identifying the difference between one colour and the next, so by stretching the colour palette slightly we're able to increase the difference between steps.
> >
> > As mentioned above, we are working on adding some degree of user control to the scales, mostly for the intent of serving our colourblind users with a couple more choices, but if demand is there it will be extended further to support other weird and wonderful scales of your choosing.
> >
> > https://old.skysight.io/ has the previous version of SkySight and it will remain available until we're sure everyone has been able to get onto the new site and their needs are being met. We are not seeing much traffic to the old site, so I am hoping most people are happy with the ongoing developments.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Matthew
>
> I may be dim but I can't find a fader for the colours on the new version.

The purpose of the opacity slider on the old version was so that you could slide it down to read the map labels underneath - on the new site the labels are rendered on top of the map, so I didn't see a usecase for a slider any more. It's easy to add back, but what are you using it for?

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I use the slider a lot to compare the overlying predicted conditions to the underlying terrain.

[Dan Daly[_2_]]

On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 2:10:20 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> I use the slider a lot to compare the overlying predicted conditions to the underlying terrain.

Me too.

[RR]

Matt, mine changed this morning, and while not familiar, the color separation is very helpful. I think it is an improvement, one that will take some getting used to, but an improvement. And I agree that putting the labeling on top will also cause less need to change the opacity, but access to the alpha slider could still be helpful. Thanks for the changes.

Rick

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On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 6:57:32 AM UTC-7, RR wrote:
> Matt, mine changed this morning, and while not familiar, the color separation is very helpful. I think it is an improvement, one that will take some getting used to, but an improvement. And I agree that putting the labeling on top will also cause less need to change the opacity, but access to the alpha slider could still be helpful. Thanks for the changes.
>
> Rick

Matt,

I routinely depend on the slider to reference the weather features to the underlying terrain features. The weather features are often not clear enough in the blended state, so the slider allows better definition of those, but then I can get lost so the slider allows me to go back to the terrain to reference the position. This is particularly important when location is most critical like convergences and wave (but it's not just used in those cases). I don't use the labels much, but position using geography patterns.

So, another vote for bringing the slider back. And if it could be made a little bigger it would also make it easier to use.

Thanks,

David

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This thread coupled with an overwhelming quantity of emails (10:1 compared to other emails about the new release) means.... it's back. Enjoy.

On Friday, 26 October 2018 01:40:51 UTC+2, wrote:
> On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 6:57:32 AM UTC-7, RR wrote:
> > Matt, mine changed this morning, and while not familiar, the color separation is very helpful. I think it is an improvement, one that will take some getting used to, but an improvement. And I agree that putting the labeling on top will also cause less need to change the opacity, but access to the alpha slider could still be helpful. Thanks for the changes.
> >
> > Rick
>
> Matt,
>
> I routinely depend on the slider to reference the weather features to the underlying terrain features. The weather features are often not clear enough in the blended state, so the slider allows better definition of those, but then I can get lost so the slider allows me to go back to the terrain to reference the position. This is particularly important when location is most critical like convergences and wave (but it's not just used in those cases). I don't use the labels much, but position using geography patterns.
>
> So, another vote for bringing the slider back. And if it could be made a little bigger it would also make it easier to use.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David

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Thanks Matt. Can you bring back the fader for mobile devices as well as desktops please?

Another comment, the airspace option is barely visible.

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On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 2:32:41 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> Another comment, the airspace option is barely visible.

To me, it's way too dark! Overwhelms the screen.

Also, it would be nice if MOAs could be turned off. In the CA/NV area it's all MOA with some restricted areas that get lost in all the lines.

I've posted a screenshot at https://flic.kr/p/2cnKRvw

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On Saturday, 27 October 2018 19:59:57 UTC+2, wrote:
> On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 2:32:41 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> > Another comment, the airspace option is barely visible.
>
> To me, it's way too dark! Overwhelms the screen.
>
> Also, it would be nice if MOAs could be turned off. In the CA/NV area it's all MOA with some restricted areas that get lost in all the lines.
>
> I've posted a screenshot at https://flic.kr/p/2cnKRvw

The airspace situation is a bit complex at the moment as we have to use different sources in different regions. Currently the US tiles are rendered hardcoded as is and we can't turn off uninteresting areas like we can in the rest of the world, but our friends over at OpenAIP are going to make this possible in the US as well in the near future.

I'm not sure what region you're in jpg, but I'm guessing it's not US where the airspace markers are much more subtle. Can you send us a screenshot of what you're seeing, skysight (.at.) skysight.io

[JS[_5_]]

Matthew:
Thanks for the return of the opacity control!
Sorry you won't be at Keepit for the Sports and Club Class Nationals.
Jim