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Keivn Anderson
September 16th 04, 10:44 PM
Jim,

How much did the new board in the volkslogger cost you, and what was turn
around time like? I have been flying with one for several years having to
turn my squelch all the way up to keep from going nuts.

I would love to get that one from you, but the timing is not quite wright.

Kevin R. Anderson
Soar 192
SGS 1-26B

Jim Phoenix
September 17th 04, 02:23 AM
Board replacement was USD 120, labor USD25, shipping USD48 - total USD193.
Turn around time not bad except I got caught in the middle of the European
holiday season, so no activity for a month, which is perfectly normal and
expected.

The new EMI filters fixes the problem - just like night and day, but keep in
mind that they don't calibrate, so if your unit is close to, or needs
calibration, expect to send it to the local cal lab. Nice to see Craggy Aero
is now a cal lab, I was afraid Carl Herold would give up the business and us
in the US would be without a cal lab for the VL's. Another clever marketing
move by Craggy.

How someone can manufacture an "aircraft part" that is installed in type
certificated products that doesn't meet HIRF/EMI requirements is beyond
me... good thing the Friendly Aviation Association doesn't know or care
about these "carry on" or so-called "portable" devices that we wire into our
gliders and interfere with our sometimes TSO'd VHF communication equipment.

;-)

Jim

"Keivn Anderson" > wrote in message
...
> Jim,
>
> How much did the new board in the volkslogger cost you, and what was turn
> around time like? I have been flying with one for several years having to
> turn my squelch all the way up to keep from going nuts.
>
> I would love to get that one from you, but the timing is not quite wright.
>
> Kevin R. Anderson
> Soar 192
> SGS 1-26B
>
>

Bob
September 17th 04, 02:43 PM
"Jim Phoenix" > wrote:

>How someone can manufacture an "aircraft part" that is installed in type
>certificated products that doesn't meet HIRF/EMI requirements is beyond
>me... good thing the Friendly Aviation Association doesn't know or care
>about these "carry on" or so-called "portable" devices that we wire into our
>gliders and interfere with our sometimes TSO'd VHF communication equipment.

It's not just that they don't "meet HIRF/EMI requirements"
and it's not just loggers and GPS units. We've got non-TSO'd
flight computers, varios and other flight instruments being
widely sold and installed in the panels of gliders with U.S.
Standard Type Certificates. You don't find products like
this being sold for installation in airplanes, except to
homebuilders.

This has always been the "elephant in the room" that
everyone in U.S. soaring familiar with the FARs pretends not
to notice. Sometimes its nice to have that experimental
certificate.

Jim Phoenix
September 18th 04, 01:40 AM
You're right, definitely an elephant in the room and it's my opinion that
the feds have much bigger fish to fry - we're not much of a nuisance to
anyone but ourselves. Occasionally it torques me that a manufacturer sells a
product that has design flaws and then charges to fix the flaw - but then I
remember that Boeing and Airbus do this as well, so at least it's equal
treatment across the aviation spectrum.

Jim

"Bob" > wrote in message
...
> "Jim Phoenix" > wrote:
>
>>How someone can manufacture an "aircraft part" that is installed in type
>>certificated products that doesn't meet HIRF/EMI requirements is beyond
>>me... good thing the Friendly Aviation Association doesn't know or care
>>about these "carry on" or so-called "portable" devices that we wire into
>>our
>>gliders and interfere with our sometimes TSO'd VHF communication
>>equipment.
>
> It's not just that they don't "meet HIRF/EMI requirements"
> and it's not just loggers and GPS units. We've got non-TSO'd
> flight computers, varios and other flight instruments being
> widely sold and installed in the panels of gliders with U.S.
> Standard Type Certificates. You don't find products like
> this being sold for installation in airplanes, except to
> homebuilders.
>
> This has always been the "elephant in the room" that
> everyone in U.S. soaring familiar with the FARs pretends not
> to notice. Sometimes its nice to have that experimental
> certificate.

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