Diana 2 designers are sure to reach 52:1

[Janusz Kesik]

The Diana 2 wings are already made, and the according to its quality and
profiles, the designers are sure to reach a 52:1 L/D in a 15m sailplane that
Diana 2 is.
Of course the Diana 2 is being built entirely in Poland which shoud affect
the price also, as the German products are getting unbearably expensive due
to Dollar/Euro exchange rate.

The first deliveries are scheduled for Spring 2005.

More to read here: http://www.dianasailplanes.com/racing.html

Regards,


--
Janusz Kesik
Poland

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See Wroclaw (Breslau) in photography,
The XIX Century, the Festung Breslau, and photos taken today.
http://www.wroclaw.dolny.slask.pl

[Mike Stringfellow]

"Janusz Kesik" > wrote in message >...
> The Diana 2 wings are already made, and the according to its quality and
> profiles, the designers are sure to reach a 52:1 L/D in a 15m sailplane that
> Diana 2 is.

Diana 1 looks to me like a 2/3 scale open-class ship - and very
elegant when the ugly giant wheel is stowed. Unfortunately, the
cockpit also appears to be 2/3 scale and not an easy fit for normal
(i.e. large) American pilots.

It sounds like the only mods in Diana 2 were made to the wings - is
this true and is the cockpit unchanged from the earlier design?

Polish men also aren't noted for being particularly small - how do you
guys fit in the thing?

Mike

[Janusz Kesik]

Uzytkownik "Mike Stringfellow" > napisal w wiadomosci
om...

> It sounds like the only mods in Diana 2 were made to the wings - is
> this true and is the cockpit unchanged from the earlier design?

I have heard of two versions, just like the Ventus a and b. The best would
be to ask the designer for details.

> Polish men also aren't noted for being particularly small - how do you
> guys fit in the thing?

Well... faith makes miracles? ;)

Regards,


--
Janusz Kesik
Poland

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See Wroclaw (Breslau) in photography,
The XIX Century, the Festung Breslau, and photos taken today.
http://www.wroclaw.dolny.slask.pl

[Chris OCallaghan]

Janusz,

thanks for the update. Keep them coming as you get them. I've followed
the Diana's development since the Worlds at Uvalde. I've always been
impressed with the numbers, but have had mixed opinions of the glider
in flight. It strikes me as a glider with "character," one you need to
get to know and coddle a little to get its optimal performance. I
haven't been able to fly one. I simply don't fit. So my opinions are
based on flying with them rather than in 'em. I posted some thoughts
to the group several years ago after the 15m Nats at Uvalde.

Best L/D is an increasingly uninteresting performance measure. Though
breaking 50:1 is noteworthy (and certainly deserves applause), higher
speeds are more important... and with the Diana's very high aspect
ratio, looking at the polar between 80 and 100 knots (typical
interthermal speeds) becomes the test of whether it will be a
desirable racer.





"Janusz Kesik" > wrote in message >...
> The Diana 2 wings are already made, and the according to its quality and
> profiles, the designers are sure to reach a 52:1 L/D in a 15m sailplane that
> Diana 2 is.
> Of course the Diana 2 is being built entirely in Poland which shoud affect
> the price also, as the German products are getting unbearably expensive due
> to Dollar/Euro exchange rate.
>
> The first deliveries are scheduled for Spring 2005.
>
> More to read here: http://www.dianasailplanes.com/racing.html
>
> Regards,

[Steve B]

Did I notice that the stick on the Diana was a joy stick on the right
side of the cockpit or was I seeing things?


On 10 Nov 2004 07:14:18 -0800, (Chris
OCallaghan) wrote:

>Janusz,
>
>thanks for the update. Keep them coming as you get them. I've followed
>the Diana's development since the Worlds at Uvalde. I've always been
>impressed with the numbers, but have had mixed opinions of the glider
>in flight. It strikes me as a glider with "character," one you need to
>get to know and coddle a little to get its optimal performance. I
>haven't been able to fly one. I simply don't fit. So my opinions are
>based on flying with them rather than in 'em. I posted some thoughts
>to the group several years ago after the 15m Nats at Uvalde.
>
>Best L/D is an increasingly uninteresting performance measure. Though
>breaking 50:1 is noteworthy (and certainly deserves applause), higher
>speeds are more important... and with the Diana's very high aspect
>ratio, looking at the polar between 80 and 100 knots (typical
>interthermal speeds) becomes the test of whether it will be a
>desirable racer.
>
>
>
>
>
>"Janusz Kesik" > wrote in message >...
>> The Diana 2 wings are already made, and the according to its quality and
>> profiles, the designers are sure to reach a 52:1 L/D in a 15m sailplane that
>> Diana 2 is.
>> Of course the Diana 2 is being built entirely in Poland which shoud affect
>> the price also, as the German products are getting unbearably expensive due
>> to Dollar/Euro exchange rate.
>>
>> The first deliveries are scheduled for Spring 2005.
>>
>> More to read here: http://www.dianasailplanes.com/racing.html
>>
>> Regards,

[F.L. Whiteley]

It is.

"Steve B" > wrote in message
...
> Did I notice that the stick on the Diana was a joy stick on the right
> side of the cockpit or was I seeing things?
>
>
> On 10 Nov 2004 07:14:18 -0800, (Chris
> OCallaghan) wrote:
>
> >Janusz,
> >
> >thanks for the update. Keep them coming as you get them. I've followed
> >the Diana's development since the Worlds at Uvalde. I've always been
> >impressed with the numbers, but have had mixed opinions of the glider
> >in flight. It strikes me as a glider with "character," one you need to
> >get to know and coddle a little to get its optimal performance. I
> >haven't been able to fly one. I simply don't fit. So my opinions are
> >based on flying with them rather than in 'em. I posted some thoughts
> >to the group several years ago after the 15m Nats at Uvalde.
> >
> >Best L/D is an increasingly uninteresting performance measure. Though
> >breaking 50:1 is noteworthy (and certainly deserves applause), higher
> >speeds are more important... and with the Diana's very high aspect
> >ratio, looking at the polar between 80 and 100 knots (typical
> >interthermal speeds) becomes the test of whether it will be a
> >desirable racer.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Janusz Kesik" > wrote in message
>...
> >> The Diana 2 wings are already made, and the according to its quality
and
> >> profiles, the designers are sure to reach a 52:1 L/D in a 15m sailplane
that
> >> Diana 2 is.
> >> Of course the Diana 2 is being built entirely in Poland which shoud
affect
> >> the price also, as the German products are getting unbearably expensive
due
> >> to Dollar/Euro exchange rate.
> >>
> >> The first deliveries are scheduled for Spring 2005.
> >>
> >> More to read here: http://www.dianasailplanes.com/racing.html
> >>
> >> Regards,
>

[André Somers]

Mike Stringfellow wrote:

> Polish men also aren't noted for being particularly small - how do you
> guys fit in the thing?
>
As we say here: "passen is een kwestie van willen" ("to fit is a matter of
_wanting_ to fit") ;-)


André
who's pretty tall and has trouble fitting into a number of gliders...

[Tom Seim]

André Somers > wrote in message >...
> Mike Stringfellow wrote:
>
> > Polish men also aren't noted for being particularly small - how do you
> > guys fit in the thing?
> >
> As we say here: "passen is een kwestie van willen" ("to fit is a matter of
> _wanting_ to fit") ;-)
>
>
> André
> who's pretty tall and has trouble fitting into a number of gliders...

Excuse me, but at 6'2" I CANNOT WILL TO BE SMALLER. Your response
reinforces my sense of denial on the part of SOME of the glider
manufacturers.

Another aspect of the Dianna to carefully checkout is who is qualified
to repair the damn things once they break. The factory is EXTREMELY
protective of any construction details -- as of the last convention
there are no qualified repair depots in the U.S. Personally, I would
defer any purchase of the glider until this glaring deficiency is
rectified.

Tom

[André Somers]

Tom Seim wrote:

>> As we say here: "passen is een kwestie van willen" ("to fit is a matter
>> of _wanting_ to fit") ;-)

> Excuse me, but at 6'2" I CANNOT WILL TO BE SMALLER. Your response
> reinforces my sense of denial on the part of SOME of the glider
> manufacturers.

Well, 6'2" is not that tall, not in my book that is. It's only 1.87meters,
which is considdered average down here. I'm 1.96 (about 6'5"), and I have
flying friends even taller (about 2 m, or over 6'7"). We both use this
adagium. Sure, it does mean you have to be willing to fold yourself into a
tiny cockpit, but there are few gliders that really don't fit.
But, did you miss the smiley?

André
who's Zugvogel IIIb has lots of room for him

--
My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right.
-- Ashleigh Brilliant

[Tom Seim]

André Somers > wrote in message >...
> Tom Seim wrote:
>
> >> As we say here: "passen is een kwestie van willen" ("to fit is a matter
> >> of _wanting_ to fit") ;-)
>
> > Excuse me, but at 6'2" I CANNOT WILL TO BE SMALLER. Your response
> > reinforces my sense of denial on the part of SOME of the glider
> > manufacturers.
>
> Well, 6'2" is not that tall, not in my book that is. It's only 1.87meters,
> which is considdered average down here. I'm 1.96 (about 6'5"), and I have
> flying friends even taller (about 2 m, or over 6'7"). We both use this
> adagium. Sure, it does mean you have to be willing to fold yourself into a
> tiny cockpit, but there are few gliders that really don't fit.
> But, did you miss the smiley?
>
> André
> who's Zugvogel IIIb has lots of room for him

You can do all the folding that you please (for 5-6 hours!), but you
still have to close the canopy!

Tom

PS: DON'T buy a glider that you don't fit COMFORTABLY in- YOU'LL BE
SORRRY!!!

[[email protected]]

You can do all the folding that you please (for 5-6 hours!), but you
still have to close the canopy!

Tom


PS: DON'T buy a glider that you don't fit COMFORTABLY in- YOU'LL BE
SORRRY!!!


Lol U mast be a fat ass . this is y u complain

[Andrew Warbrick]

At 13:00 20 January 2005, wrote:
>You can do all the folding that you please (for 5-6
>hours!), but you
>still have to close the canopy!
>
>Tom
>
>
>PS: DON'T buy a glider that you don't fit COMFORTABLY
>in- YOU'LL BE
>SORRRY!!!
>
>
>Lol U mast be a fat ass . this is y u complain
>
>

Ah, abuse, surely the best way to sell sailplanes :)

[Tom]

My ass is not as nearly as fat as your HEAD!

wrote:
> You can do all the folding that you please (for 5-6 hours!), but you
> still have to close the canopy!
>
> Tom
>
>
> PS: DON'T buy a glider that you don't fit COMFORTABLY in- YOU'LL BE
> SORRRY!!!
>
>
> Lol U mast be a fat ass . this is y u complain