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SAM
February 20th 19, 05:29 PM
I'm interested in connecting LX Nav varions (EOS or ERA) to XCSoar via bluetooth.

From the manuals, xcsoar config screens, and old posts here it looks like that *should* be possible.
Does anyone have experience doing it?
I've got XCSoar on a couple android phones and a nexxxus 7 tablet.
Simply providing vario data via bluetooth would be the primary need. Ability to feed flarm or other data would be a bonus.

Thanks!

Paul Remde
February 20th 19, 06:07 PM
Hi Sam,

I'm not an expert on XCSoar, but yes, the LX Navigation EOS and Era can send vario data over Bluetooth. So can the LXNAV S8 and S80 (with optional Bluetooth module) and the S10 and S100 (Bluetooth standard).

I have those all in stock.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
________________________________
On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 11:29:16 AM UTC-6, SAM wrote:
> I'm interested in connecting LX Nav varions (EOS or ERA) to XCSoar via bluetooth.
>
> From the manuals, xcsoar config screens, and old posts here it looks like that *should* be possible.
> Does anyone have experience doing it?
> I've got XCSoar on a couple android phones and a nexxxus 7 tablet.
> Simply providing vario data via bluetooth would be the primary need. Ability to feed flarm or other data would be a bonus.
>
> Thanks!

David Hirst
February 20th 19, 07:35 PM
On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 6:29:16 AM UTC+13, SAM wrote:
> I'm interested in connecting LX Nav varions (EOS or ERA) to XCSoar via bluetooth.
>
> From the manuals, xcsoar config screens, and old posts here it looks like that *should* be possible.
> Does anyone have experience doing it?
> I've got XCSoar on a couple android phones and a nexxxus 7 tablet.
> Simply providing vario data via bluetooth would be the primary need. Ability to feed flarm or other data would be a bonus.
>
> Thanks!

Hi Sam,

It is definitely possible and XCSoar provides a number of drivers to get everything talking nicely once BT is paired. The weakest link in the chain is the Android o/s (earlier versions are worse). If there is ever a problem or a delay in pairing, then Android remembers this as a "bad" connection and won't pair with the BT device. To fix it you have to clear the BT cache and pair from scratch again. I flew with a V7 (now S7), BT module and Galaxy S3, then used a Kobo Mini e-reader with HC05 BT module. In the end I removed the LX Nav BT module and went with a hard connection (to a Boox Onyx) via a IOIO box, though I know others who have never had any BT problems and swear by them.
Many problems in life come down to trying to get Box A talking to Box B. Sometimes the boxes are people :)

Cheers
DH
TX

JS[_5_]
February 20th 19, 07:51 PM
On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:29:16 AM UTC-8, SAM wrote:
> I'm interested in connecting LX Nav varions (EOS or ERA) to XCSoar via bluetooth.
>
> From the manuals, xcsoar config screens, and old posts here it looks like that *should* be possible.
> Does anyone have experience doing it?
> I've got XCSoar on a couple android phones and a nexxxus 7 tablet.
> Simply providing vario data via bluetooth would be the primary need. Ability to feed flarm or other data would be a bonus.
>
> Thanks!

Believe the EOS and ERA are from LX Navigation, not LX Nav. To me that confusion seems like the Judean People's Front and the People's Front Of Judea from "Life Of Brian".
It should work the same, the phone is the odd thing... With the LX Nav S100 (from down the road) I have connected a Samsung Note 4 running XC Soar using Bluetooth. Also a Nokia 8 running LK8000.
> Pair the phone, then ignore the OS connection.
> In XC Soar Config/devices, set up the BT as Device A at the same baud rate - I used 115,200.
> Click "Monitor" and you'll see data.
Jim

SAM
February 20th 19, 08:00 PM
Thank you Paul, David & Jim!

Dan Marotta
February 20th 19, 10:06 PM
....And I've connected an Android phone, a Dell Streak 5, and a Nexus 7
(individually and at different times) using a pair of K6-BTs.Â* I'm sure
there are less expensive devices to do this.Â* The key to getting vario
and Flarm data is to use two separate interfaces in the Android device.Â*
As said above, XCSoar provides the necessary drivers.Â* IIRC, the Flarm
uses 19.2K baud and the vario uses 4.8K. Good luck!

On 2/20/2019 12:51 PM, JS wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:29:16 AM UTC-8, SAM wrote:
>> I'm interested in connecting LX Nav varions (EOS or ERA) to XCSoar via bluetooth.
>>
>> From the manuals, xcsoar config screens, and old posts here it looks like that *should* be possible.
>> Does anyone have experience doing it?
>> I've got XCSoar on a couple android phones and a nexxxus 7 tablet.
>> Simply providing vario data via bluetooth would be the primary need. Ability to feed flarm or other data would be a bonus.
>>
>> Thanks!
> Believe the EOS and ERA are from LX Navigation, not LX Nav. To me that confusion seems like the Judean People's Front and the People's Front Of Judea from "Life Of Brian".
> It should work the same, the phone is the odd thing... With the LX Nav S100 (from down the road) I have connected a Samsung Note 4 running XC Soar using Bluetooth. Also a Nokia 8 running LK8000.
>> Pair the phone, then ignore the OS connection.
>> In XC Soar Config/devices, set up the BT as Device A at the same baud rate - I used 115,200.
>> Click "Monitor" and you'll see data.
> Jim

--
Dan, 5J

Richard Pfiffner[_2_]
February 21st 19, 02:22 AM
On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 12:00:38 PM UTC-8, SAM wrote:
> Thank you Paul, David & Jim!

The LXNAV S10 and S100 has internal Bluetooth.

http://www.craggyaero.com/lxnav_vario.htm


Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Dan Marotta
February 21st 19, 03:52 PM
XCSoar may or may not have a driver specific to that device.Â* I use a
CAI-302 driver built in to XCSoar to drive my ClearNav XC vario. They
use the same protocol where it counts.Â* Can't say about the LXNAV.

On 2/20/2019 7:22 PM, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 12:00:38 PM UTC-8, SAM wrote:
>> Thank you Paul, David & Jim!
> The LXNAV S10 and S100 has internal Bluetooth.
>
> http://www.craggyaero.com/lxnav_vario.htm
>
>
> Richard
> www.craggyaero.com

--
Dan, 5J

February 21st 19, 08:29 PM
XCSoar does have a driver for LXNav, although possibly not quite as functional as the C302 driver.

http://max.kellermann.name/projects/xcsoar/vendor.html

Nick.



On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 2:22:29 AM UTC+10:30, Dan Marotta wrote:
> XCSoar may or may not have a driver specific to that device.Â* I use a
> CAI-302 driver built in to XCSoar to drive my ClearNav XC vario. They
> use the same protocol where it counts.Â* Can't say about the LXNAV.
>
> On 2/20/2019 7:22 PM, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 12:00:38 PM UTC-8, SAM wrote:
> >> Thank you Paul, David & Jim!
> > The LXNAV S10 and S100 has internal Bluetooth.
> >
> > http://www.craggyaero.com/lxnav_vario.htm
> >
> >
> > Richard
> > www.craggyaero.com
>
> --
> Dan, 5J

SoaringXCellence
February 21st 19, 10:28 PM
On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 12:29:54 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> XCSoar does have a driver for LXNav, although possibly not quite as functional as the C302 driver.
>
> http://max.kellermann.name/projects/xcsoar/vendor.html
>
> Nick.
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 2:22:29 AM UTC+10:30, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > XCSoar may or may not have a driver specific to that device.Â* I use a
> > CAI-302 driver built in to XCSoar to drive my ClearNav XC vario. They
> > use the same protocol where it counts.Â* Can't say about the LXNAV.
> >
> > On 2/20/2019 7:22 PM, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 12:00:38 PM UTC-8, SAM wrote:
> > >> Thank you Paul, David & Jim!
> > > The LXNAV S10 and S100 has internal Bluetooth.
> > >
> > > http://www.craggyaero.com/lxnav_vario.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > Richard
> > > www.craggyaero.com
> >
> > --
> > Dan, 5J

Remember we're talking about NX NAVIGATION, not LXNav, two different protocols. LX Navigation has not been helpful to the XCSoar team and so doen't get much in the way of attention from the developers. I just checked the list of device drivers in XCSoar and there is nothing with the LX Navigation device listed.

On the other hand, every LXNav device I've used works with the software.

Mike B.

February 21st 19, 11:31 PM
Questions have been asked about both LXNav and LX Navigation devices. Most recently the questions have been in relation to the S10 and S100 which are both LXNav products.

Have you tried using the XCSoar LXNav driver with an LX Navigation device? It works.

Nick.


On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 8:58:42 AM UTC+10:30, SoaringXCellence wrote:
> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 12:29:54 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> > XCSoar does have a driver for LXNav, although possibly not quite as functional as the C302 driver.
> >
> > http://max.kellermann.name/projects/xcsoar/vendor.html
> >
> > Nick.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 2:22:29 AM UTC+10:30, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > > XCSoar may or may not have a driver specific to that device.Â* I use a
> > > CAI-302 driver built in to XCSoar to drive my ClearNav XC vario. They
> > > use the same protocol where it counts.Â* Can't say about the LXNAV.
> > >
> > > On 2/20/2019 7:22 PM, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 12:00:38 PM UTC-8, SAM wrote:
> > > >> Thank you Paul, David & Jim!
> > > > The LXNAV S10 and S100 has internal Bluetooth.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.craggyaero.com/lxnav_vario.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > > > www.craggyaero.com
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dan, 5J
>
> Remember we're talking about NX NAVIGATION, not LXNav, two different protocols. LX Navigation has not been helpful to the XCSoar team and so doen't get much in the way of attention from the developers. I just checked the list of device drivers in XCSoar and there is nothing with the LX Navigation device listed.
>
> On the other hand, every LXNav device I've used works with the software.
>
> Mike B.

JS[_5_]
February 21st 19, 11:40 PM
On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 3:31:53 PM UTC-8, wrote:
> Questions have been asked about both LXNav and LX Navigation devices. Most recently the questions have been in relation to the S10 and S100 which are both LXNav products.
>
> Have you tried using the XCSoar LXNav driver with an LX Navigation device? It works.
>
> Nick.

Good to hear, Nick.
Suspected that.
Jim

krasw
February 22nd 19, 10:17 AM
On Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:29:54 UTC+2, wrote:
> XCSoar does have a driver for LXNav, although possibly not quite as functional as the C302 driver.
>
> http://max.kellermann.name/projects/xcsoar/vendor.html
>
> Nick.
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 2:22:29 AM UTC+10:30, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > XCSoar may or may not have a driver specific to that device.Â* I use a
> > CAI-302 driver built in to XCSoar to drive my ClearNav XC vario. They
> > use the same protocol where it counts.Â* Can't say about the LXNAV.
> >
> > On 2/20/2019 7:22 PM, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 12:00:38 PM UTC-8, SAM wrote:
> > >> Thank you Paul, David & Jim!
> > > The LXNAV S10 and S100 has internal Bluetooth.
> > >
> > > http://www.craggyaero.com/lxnav_vario.htm
> > >
> > >
> > > Richard
> > > www.craggyaero.com
> >
> > --
> > Dan, 5J

What a nice blacklist you have there.

Roy Garden
February 22nd 19, 10:37 AM
I'm running an Eos which (sometimes) speaks to my Samsung S9 running
XC soar.
I use XC soar as a back up to the Zeus and it's handy for getting a
heading up display which the Zeus currently doesn't do. (windy here)
I get mount problems with Bluetooth if I let the phone pair with the Bose
Speaker in the glider before it mounts the Eos output.
Switching the speaker off, re-booting the phone.
Mount the Eos stack then the Bose stack seems to work ok.
Bluetooth is a bit iffy on multiple device connections.

YMMV, or you may be confusing the stack less by not having in flight
entertainment throwing a spanner in the works.

WaltWX[_2_]
February 23rd 19, 01:26 AM
I'm the one JS was referring to when the LX NAV S100 paired and worked with my Nokia 8 Android phone and LK8000 software. It works beautifully... but. You have to spend some time at the desk testing all this and making sure the operator (me) understands how to pair on the Nokia 8 and get it working with my Flight Software LK8000. Once understood, it all works just fine.

Last summer at the Standard Nationals I used my Nokia 8 and LK8000 to fly for 100 full days with no problem. Just remember to test the connection and demonstrate it's working well before getting into the cockpit. For this contest I used a Nano and it's BT with my Nokia 8 and LK8000.

WaltWX[_2_]
February 23rd 19, 01:29 AM
On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 5:26:57 PM UTC-8, WaltWX wrote:
> I'm the one JS was referring to when the LX NAV S100 paired and worked with my Nokia 8 Android phone and LK8000 software. It works beautifully... but. You have to spend some time at the desk testing all this and making sure the operator (me) understands how to pair on the Nokia 8 and get it working with my Flight Software LK8000. Once understood, it all works just fine.
>
> Last summer at the Standard Nationals I used my Nokia 8 and LK8000 to fly for 100 full days with no problem. Just remember to test the connection and demonstrate it's working well before getting into the cockpit. For this contest I used a Nano and it's BT with my Nokia 8 and LK8000.

Power was from a "Juice" 5V battery in the side pocket of my D2a.

I'm convinced that connecting with BT is reliable enough these days. It's a lot simpler than a wired connection with IOIO-OTG boxes for Android. It even works with my Vertica V2.

Walt Rogers

WaltWX[_2_]
February 23rd 19, 01:37 AM
On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 5:29:50 PM UTC-8, WaltWX wrote:
> On Friday, February 22, 2019 at 5:26:57 PM UTC-8, WaltWX wrote:
> > I'm the one JS was referring to when the LX NAV S100 paired and worked with my Nokia 8 Android phone and LK8000 software. It works beautifully... but. You have to spend some time at the desk testing all this and making sure the operator (me) understands how to pair on the Nokia 8 and get it working with my Flight Software LK8000. Once understood, it all works just fine..
> >
> > Last summer at the Standard Nationals I used my Nokia 8 and LK8000 to fly for 100 full days with no problem. Just remember to test the connection and demonstrate it's working well before getting into the cockpit. For this contest I used a Nano and it's BT with my Nokia 8 and LK8000.
>
> Power was from a "Juice" 5V battery in the side pocket of my D2a.
>
> I'm convinced that connecting with BT is reliable enough these days. It's a lot simpler than a wired connection with IOIO-OTG boxes for Android. It even works with my Vertica V2.
>
> Walt Rogers

Make that 10 days! I don't have the stamina to fly 100 days...

Charlie Quebec
February 23rd 19, 09:38 AM
I’m using a Borgelt Bluetooth blade, which combines FLARM and Vario data and sends them combined bluetooth, with Lenovo TAB 7 XCSoar Works very well with a minimum of configuration.
The Borgelt blade can handle up to 3 data sources, combine them and forward on Bluetooth. I carry a stand-alone Sony Z3 as a fully independent back up..

Mike pre configures the devices for the blade when you order.

Paul Remde
February 23rd 19, 02:35 PM
Hi,

The K6BtMux can also be used to combine FLARM and vario data and send it over Bluetooth.
http://cumulus-soaring.com/k6.htm#K6BtMux

But the K6BtMux is not required when using an LXNAV S100 or similar. The S100 receives the FLARM data and forwards it to the display over Bluetooth, along with vario and airspeed and other data.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
_____________________________________
On Saturday, February 23, 2019 at 3:38:40 AM UTC-6, Charlie Quebec wrote:
> I’m using a Borgelt Bluetooth blade, which combines FLARM and Vario data and sends them combined bluetooth, with Lenovo TAB 7 XCSoar Works very well with a minimum of configuration.
> The Borgelt blade can handle up to 3 data sources, combine them and forward on Bluetooth. I carry a stand-alone Sony Z3 as a fully independent back up.
>
> Mike pre configures the devices for the blade when you order.

February 24th 19, 05:32 AM
As a scorer Walt, It worked well, I just wished you didnt turn in 3 logs every day :)

March 3rd 19, 06:48 AM
On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 4:29:16 AM UTC+11, SAM wrote:
> I'm interested in connecting LX Nav varions (EOS or ERA) to XCSoar via bluetooth.
>
> From the manuals, xcsoar config screens, and old posts here it looks like that *should* be possible.
> Does anyone have experience doing it?
> I've got XCSoar on a couple android phones and a nexxxus 7 tablet.
> Simply providing vario data via bluetooth would be the primary need. Ability to feed flarm or other data would be a bonus.
>
> Thanks!


I have been trying to get Bluetooth connection between an Era80 and Android devices running XCSOAR. The firmware displayed on the 'info' screen is version 1.2 which does not directly equate to the firmware on the LX NAVIGATION website. (Beta 1.0RC5 and stable 0.9 F).

The manual for the Era80 indicates that in a scan the Era80 will present as Era XXXXX where XXXXX is the serial number of the device (available on the info screen). It should then prompt you for the pairing code (1234).

However the Era80 presents the Bluetooth ID of 'Bluetooth device'. You can pair with this, it does NOT ask for a pairing code. However, there is no communication between the Era80 and XCSOAR.


PNW
AUS

Dan Marotta
March 3rd 19, 11:00 PM
Have you set the proper baud rate and driver in XCSoar?

On 3/2/2019 11:48 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 4:29:16 AM UTC+11, SAM wrote:
>> I'm interested in connecting LX Nav varions (EOS or ERA) to XCSoar via bluetooth.
>>
>> From the manuals, xcsoar config screens, and old posts here it looks like that *should* be possible.
>> Does anyone have experience doing it?
>> I've got XCSoar on a couple android phones and a nexxxus 7 tablet.
>> Simply providing vario data via bluetooth would be the primary need. Ability to feed flarm or other data would be a bonus.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
> I have been trying to get Bluetooth connection between an Era80 and Android devices running XCSOAR. The firmware displayed on the 'info' screen is version 1.2 which does not directly equate to the firmware on the LX NAVIGATION website. (Beta 1.0RC5 and stable 0.9 F).
>
> The manual for the Era80 indicates that in a scan the Era80 will present as Era XXXXX where XXXXX is the serial number of the device (available on the info screen). It should then prompt you for the pairing code (1234).
>
> However the Era80 presents the Bluetooth ID of 'Bluetooth device'. You can pair with this, it does NOT ask for a pairing code. However, there is no communication between the Era80 and XCSOAR.
>
>
> PNW
> AUS

--
Dan, 5J

Mike C
March 4th 19, 12:21 AM
On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 4:00:29 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Have you set the proper baud rate and driver in XCSoar?
>
> On 3/2/2019 11:48 PM, wrote:
> > On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 4:29:16 AM UTC+11, SAM wrote:
> >> I'm interested in connecting LX Nav varions (EOS or ERA) to XCSoar via bluetooth.
> >>
> >> From the manuals, xcsoar config screens, and old posts here it looks like that *should* be possible.
> >> Does anyone have experience doing it?
> >> I've got XCSoar on a couple android phones and a nexxxus 7 tablet.
> >> Simply providing vario data via bluetooth would be the primary need. Ability to feed flarm or other data would be a bonus.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >
> > I have been trying to get Bluetooth connection between an Era80 and Android devices running XCSOAR. The firmware displayed on the 'info' screen is version 1.2 which does not directly equate to the firmware on the LX NAVIGATION website. (Beta 1.0RC5 and stable 0.9 F).
> >
> > The manual for the Era80 indicates that in a scan the Era80 will present as Era XXXXX where XXXXX is the serial number of the device (available on the info screen). It should then prompt you for the pairing code (1234).
> >
> > However the Era80 presents the Bluetooth ID of 'Bluetooth device'. You can pair with this, it does NOT ask for a pairing code. However, there is no communication between the Era80 and XCSOAR.
> >
> >
> > PNW
> > AUS
>
> --
> Dan, 5J

Not sure that XCSoar supports LX "Navigation" products. LX "Nav" is supported.

Mike

Dan Marotta
March 4th 19, 02:24 PM
Give LX Nav a try.Â* Worst case is it won't work.

On 3/3/2019 5:21 PM, Mike C wrote:
> On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 4:00:29 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Have you set the proper baud rate and driver in XCSoar?
>>
>> On 3/2/2019 11:48 PM, wrote:
>>> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 4:29:16 AM UTC+11, SAM wrote:
>>>> I'm interested in connecting LX Nav varions (EOS or ERA) to XCSoar via bluetooth.
>>>>
>>>> From the manuals, xcsoar config screens, and old posts here it looks like that *should* be possible.
>>>> Does anyone have experience doing it?
>>>> I've got XCSoar on a couple android phones and a nexxxus 7 tablet.
>>>> Simply providing vario data via bluetooth would be the primary need. Ability to feed flarm or other data would be a bonus.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>> I have been trying to get Bluetooth connection between an Era80 and Android devices running XCSOAR. The firmware displayed on the 'info' screen is version 1.2 which does not directly equate to the firmware on the LX NAVIGATION website. (Beta 1.0RC5 and stable 0.9 F).
>>>
>>> The manual for the Era80 indicates that in a scan the Era80 will present as Era XXXXX where XXXXX is the serial number of the device (available on the info screen). It should then prompt you for the pairing code (1234).
>>>
>>> However the Era80 presents the Bluetooth ID of 'Bluetooth device'. You can pair with this, it does NOT ask for a pairing code. However, there is no communication between the Era80 and XCSOAR.
>>>
>>>
>>> PNW
>>> AUS
>> --
>> Dan, 5J
> Not sure that XCSoar supports LX "Navigation" products. LX "Nav" is supported.
>
> Mike

--
Dan, 5J

Jonathan Walker
March 4th 19, 03:05 PM
I understand that within the next week or so the ERA software download
should be updated to 1.4 which appears to be quite a big change from the
Beta 1.0RC5 so might improve the position?

At 14:24 04 March 2019, Dan Marotta wrote:
>Give LX Nav a try.Â* Worst case is it won't work.
>
>On 3/3/2019 5:21 PM, Mike C wrote:
>> On Sunday, March 3, 2019 at 4:00:29 PM UTC-7, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>> Have you set the proper baud rate and driver in XCSoar?
>>>
>>> On 3/2/2019 11:48 PM, wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 4:29:16 AM UTC+11, SAM wrote:
>>>>> I'm interested in connecting LX Nav varions (EOS or ERA) to XCSoar
via
>bluetooth.
>>>>>
>>>>> From the manuals, xcsoar config screens, and old posts here it
looks
>like that *should* be possible.
>>>>> Does anyone have experience doing it?
>>>>> I've got XCSoar on a couple android phones and a nexxxus 7 tablet.
>>>>> Simply providing vario data via bluetooth would be the primary need.

>Ability to feed flarm or other data would be a bonus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>> I have been trying to get Bluetooth connection between an Era80 and
>Android devices running XCSOAR. The firmware displayed on the 'info'
screen
>is version 1.2 which does not directly equate to the firmware on the LX
>NAVIGATION website. (Beta 1.0RC5 and stable 0.9 F).
>>>>
>>>> The manual for the Era80 indicates that in a scan the Era80 will
>present as Era XXXXX where XXXXX is the serial number of the device
>(available on the info screen). It should then prompt you for the pairing
>code (1234).
>>>>
>>>> However the Era80 presents the Bluetooth ID of 'Bluetooth device'.
You
>can pair with this, it does NOT ask for a pairing code. However, there is
>no communication between the Era80 and XCSOAR.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PNW
>>>> AUS
>>> --
>>> Dan, 5J
>> Not sure that XCSoar supports LX "Navigation" products. LX "Nav" is
>supported.
>>
>> Mike
>
>--
>Dan, 5J
>

6PK
September 26th 19, 02:21 AM
On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 11:35:27 AM UTC-8, David Hirst wrote:
> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 6:29:16 AM UTC+13, SAM wrote:
> > I'm interested in connecting LX Nav varions (EOS or ERA) to XCSoar via bluetooth.
> >
> > From the manuals, xcsoar config screens, and old posts here it looks like that *should* be possible.
> > Does anyone have experience doing it?
> > I've got XCSoar on a couple android phones and a nexxxus 7 tablet.
> > Simply providing vario data via bluetooth would be the primary need. Ability to feed flarm or other data would be a bonus.
> >
> > Thanks!
>
> Hi Sam,
>
> It is definitely possible and XCSoar provides a number of drivers to get everything talking nicely once BT is paired. The weakest link in the chain is the Android o/s (earlier versions are worse). If there is ever a problem or a delay in pairing, then Android remembers this as a "bad" connection and won't pair with the BT device. To fix it you have to clear the BT cache and pair from scratch again. I flew with a V7 (now S7), BT module and Galaxy S3, then used a Kobo Mini e-reader with HC05 BT module. In the end I removed the LX Nav BT module and went with a hard connection (to a Boox Onyx) via a IOIO box, though I know others who have never had any BT problems and swear by them.
> Many problems in life come down to trying to get Box A talking to Box B. Sometimes the boxes are people :)
>
> Cheers
> DH
> TX

David
Which version of the Onyx Boox are you using?

David Hirst
September 26th 19, 08:38 PM
> David
> Which version of the Onyx Boox are you using?

I'm using the C67ML Carta+

Here's one for sale:
https://www.amazon.com/Android-Screen-Reader-Upgraded-Version/dp/B072LW7DM7

Official specs here, although their base model is now the Carta2:
https://www.boox.com/boox-c67/

DH

John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net
September 27th 19, 08:57 AM
SAM,

You might want to sign up for the LXNav Google group and ask your question(s) of the membership - there are 114 members and counting.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/lxnav-user-group

Best of luck.

- John

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