New LS4, 304Z or --------

[Charles Yeates]

Euro 17,000 price for a new PW-5 includes a total energy vario and basic
instruments. 103 North American owners are enjoying themselves despite
naysayers and thumpers. A Texas buyer will receive his new ship next
February.

Pilots selected by competition are preparing for their 2006 World Class
event in Vinon, France, and their 2005 Pre Worlds at the same location.

Why pay double for something else? The PW-5 is affordable, fun and a
pathway to international competition.


Charles Yeates

[Michel Talon]

Charles Yeates > wrote:
>
> Why pay double for something else? The PW-5 is affordable, fun and a
> pathway to international competition.
>

The PW5 is proven undesirable by the vast majority of people (proof:
nobody buys it), and the same majority couldn't care less for
international competition (or national, or whatever competition).

If somebody comes with a monotype to be produced in high volumes,
it must at least have the following features:
-it must be very easy to fly, so that beginners can be trained on it.
Nobody wants to pay for flying bricks like the ASK23 for beginners,
plus "performance" gliders. It may not have treacherous behavior in the
stall-spin regime, nobody want to see casualties.
-it must be performant enough so that cross country is easily achievable
by people who are not world champions. Sorry, i don't buy the argument,
"competent people are able to do 500km in England with 23:1 gliders".
Most buyers and most club members are not competent to that point, and
all they will do with crass performance gliders is circle around the
airport for 2 or 3 years and quit the sport, a thing we have seen
happening consistently year after year.

Gliders satisfying these criteria are well known, and have been sold by
the thousand, hence proving my claim. You can say they are proven
desirable by prospective buyers. This minimises the risk *a lot*
when considering a large scale production. In other words you can be
sure that no new glider will be sold if it has the same performance as
a used LS4, is not as easy to fly, and is at least as expensive.
Otherwise the reasonable man will buy a used LS4 immediately, knowing
perfectly well he will be able to resell it better (or a used Pegase
or any glider of the same class). It is only for vastly better
performance that some people will accept to pay a premium price.



>
> Charles Yeates

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Michel TALON

[Charles Yeates]

Michel

You have just described the hidden talents of the PW-5 -- already FAA
certified too {:>))

>
> If somebody comes with a monotype to be produced in high volumes,
> it must at least have the following features:
> -it must be very easy to fly, so that beginners can be trained on it.
> Nobody wants to pay for flying bricks like the ASK23 for beginners,
> plus "performance" gliders. It may not have treacherous behavior in the
> stall-spin regime, nobody want to see casualties.
> -it must be performant enough so that cross country is easily achievable
>

[John Scott]

I'm not for or against the PW-5. However, a quick check of aircraft
registration shows 64 in the US. Given the low volumes of most glider
models, I'd think this tends to refute the statement "no body buys them".

John Scott

[Udo Rumpf]

How many different glider models, make and classes have been sold over the
same period?
Udo

"John Scott" > wrote in message
news:1100279394.XJPLVvX2fY+UpwqeK0uvJw@teranews...
> I'm not for or against the PW-5. However, a quick check of aircraft
> registration shows 64 in the US. Given the low volumes of most glider
> models, I'd think this tends to refute the statement "no body buys them".
>
> John Scott
>
>

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John Scott wrote:
> I'm not for or against the PW-5. However, a quick check of aircraft
> registration shows 64 in the US. Given the low volumes of most
glider
> models, I'd think this tends to refute the statement "no body buys
them".
>

64 kind of pathetic for a "world class" design which was predicted to
have a production run in the thousands. And sales are even worse in
Europe, where soaring performance is more highly valued in a glider.