Avare

[Dan Marotta]

My glider is equipped with ADS-B Out.Â* I use Avare in my glider as an
ADS-B In display.Â* Yesterday was my first test and I was dismayed to see
that my ship was displayed at the center of the screen with a reported
altitude difference that matched the difference between the altimeter
setting and 29.92".

Does anyone have any idea how to remove own-ship reporting?Â* I couldn't
find anything in the preferences and I also could not find any forums or
contact information for the developer.
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Dan, 5J

[Duster[_2_]]

Re: How to disable location display icon (own-ship display)
.... on my location when I type the center icon on the Avare screen, but I don't want the location display icon (referred to as own-ship display by the FAA) ...

Avare has as remedy for this by providing a transparent icon so your own ship is not displayed. See https://apps4av.com/avare-overview/compatibility-avare-external-gpsadsb/
There are also a number of YouTube tutorials for using a Avare And I seem to recall the issue being resolved in at least one of them.

[Dan Marotta]

Thanks!Â* Following those links to see what to do.

On 3/19/2019 7:15 PM, Duster wrote:
> Re: How to disable location display icon (own-ship display)
> ... on my location when I type the center icon on the Avare screen, but I don't want the location display icon (referred to as own-ship display by the FAA) ...
>
> Avare has as remedy for this by providing a transparent icon so your own ship is not displayed. See https://apps4av.com/avare-overview/compatibility-avare-external-gpsadsb/
> There are also a number of YouTube tutorials for using a Avare And I seem to recall the issue being resolved in at least one of them.

--
Dan, 5J

[Dan Marotta]

After relooking at your post and the Avare help files, that doesn't work
for me.Â* All what you suggested did was to make my airplane symbol
disappear.Â* I need that to see the spatial relationships of the ADS-B
aircraft displayed around me.Â* What I want to remove is my call sign and
altitude displayed just below my aircraft symbol.

Thanks, anyway.

On 3/20/2019 8:41 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Thanks! Following those links to see what to do.
>
> On 3/19/2019 7:15 PM, Duster wrote:
>> Re: How to disable location display icon (own-ship display)
>> ... on my location when I type the center icon on the Avare screen,
>> but I don't want the location display icon (referred to as own-ship
>> display by the FAA) ...
>>
>> Avare has as remedy for this by providing a transparent icon so your
>> own ship is not displayed. See
>> https://apps4av.com/avare-overview/compatibility-avare-external-gpsadsb/
>> There are also a number of YouTube tutorials for using a Avare And I
>> seem to recall the issue being resolved in at least one of them.
>

--
Dan, 5J

[[email protected]]

On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 11:52:00 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> After relooking at your post and the Avare help files, that doesn't work
> for me.Â* All what you suggested did was to make my airplane symbol
> disappear.Â* I need that to see the spatial relationships of the ADS-B
> aircraft displayed around me.Â* What I want to remove is my call sign and
> altitude displayed just below my aircraft symbol.
>
> Thanks, anyway.
>
> On 3/20/2019 8:41 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > Thanks! Following those links to see what to do.
> >
> > On 3/19/2019 7:15 PM, Duster wrote:
> >> Re: How to disable location display icon (own-ship display)
> >> ... on my location when I type the center icon on the Avare screen,
> >> but I don't want the location display icon (referred to as own-ship
> >> display by the FAA) ...
> >>
> >> Avare has as remedy for this by providing a transparent icon so your
> >> own ship is not displayed. See
> >> https://apps4av.com/avare-overview/compatibility-avare-external-gpsadsb/
> >> There are also a number of YouTube tutorials for using a Avare And I
> >> seem to recall the issue being resolved in at least one of them.
> >
>
> --
> Dan, 5J

I also have ADS-B Out and use Avare's ADSB Pro running on an Android phone for my ADS-B In.Â* The ADS-B signals come in via a separately-bought USB dongle kit, which includes a small whip antenna. The antenna plus into the dongle, which plugs into the phone's USB port.Â* The combined cost of the ADS-B Pro app and the hardware was about $19.

Compared to Avare, their ADSB app has a prisitine interface that shows my position as a blue dot on over a basic map.Â* ADS-B traffic is shown as various icons, depending on the type of traffic.Â*

Unlike Avare, the ADSB app is a smaller software that lacks the nice/cluttered aeronautical features and just shows ADS-B traffic.Â* I do also have Avare on the phone, and it can run concurrently in the background.Â* Two taps on the screen bring either app back to the front.Â* The regular aeronautical stuff I need (e.g., airspaces, flight data) is on XCSoar, which run on a different screen.Â*Â*Â*

Once, the blue dot at the center screen was replaced by a red glider icon.Â* That got my attention and, after looking all around, it dawned on me that it was my "own ship".Â* I was near a cloud base on half-cloudy day when that happened, so maybe my ADS-B Out signals were bouncing off and triggering that glider icon.Â* After about five minutes, my blue dot came back, replacing the glider icon.Â* That anomaly happened only once in about 15 flights with ADSB Pro.

[Dan Marotta]

The ADS-B in my glider is configured as Out/In, therefore, when my ADS-B
Out sends out its signal, the ground stations send back all of the
aircraft within my "hockey puck" of airspace.Â* I'm used to the red
aircraft symbol, though a simple "dot" would be better.Â* What I'm
complaining about is the data block below my "own ship" which looks like
the data blocks of other aircraft, without the flight vector, since I'm
not moving with respect to myself.Â* The block has my N-number and an
altitude differential (due to the local altimeter setting) and looks
something like: N995J -274

It's distracting.Â* I'll take a look at ADSB Pro.

On 3/20/2019 1:40 PM, wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 at 11:52:00 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> After relooking at your post and the Avare help files, that doesn't work
>> for me.Â* All what you suggested did was to make my airplane symbol
>> disappear.Â* I need that to see the spatial relationships of the ADS-B
>> aircraft displayed around me.Â* What I want to remove is my call sign and
>> altitude displayed just below my aircraft symbol.
>>
>> Thanks, anyway.
>>
>> On 3/20/2019 8:41 AM, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>> Thanks! Following those links to see what to do.
>>>
>>> On 3/19/2019 7:15 PM, Duster wrote:
>>>> Re: How to disable location display icon (own-ship display)
>>>> ... on my location when I type the center icon on the Avare screen,
>>>> but I don't want the location display icon (referred to as own-ship
>>>> display by the FAA) ...
>>>>
>>>> Avare has as remedy for this by providing a transparent icon so your
>>>> own ship is not displayed. See
>>>> https://apps4av.com/avare-overview/compatibility-avare-external-gpsadsb/
>>>> There are also a number of YouTube tutorials for using a Avare And I
>>>> seem to recall the issue being resolved in at least one of them.
>> --
>> Dan, 5J
> I also have ADS-B Out and use Avare's ADSB Pro running on an Android phone for my ADS-B In.Â* The ADS-B signals come in via a separately-bought USB dongle kit, which includes a small whip antenna. The antenna plus into the dongle, which plugs into the phone's USB port.Â* The combined cost of the ADS-B Pro app and the hardware was about $19.
>
> Compared to Avare, their ADSB app has a prisitine interface that shows my position as a blue dot on over a basic map.Â* ADS-B traffic is shown as various icons, depending on the type of traffic.
>
> Unlike Avare, the ADSB app is a smaller software that lacks the nice/cluttered aeronautical features and just shows ADS-B traffic.Â* I do also have Avare on the phone, and it can run concurrently in the background.Â* Two taps on the screen bring either app back to the front.Â* The regular aeronautical stuff I need (e.g., airspaces, flight data) is on XCSoar, which run on a different screen.
>
> Once, the blue dot at the center screen was replaced by a red glider icon.Â* That got my attention and, after looking all around, it dawned on me that it was my "own ship".Â* I was near a cloud base on half-cloudy day when that happened, so maybe my ADS-B Out signals were bouncing off and triggering that glider icon.Â* After about five minutes, my blue dot came back, replacing the glider icon.Â* That anomaly happened only once in about 15 flights with ADSB Pro.

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Dan, 5J

[Tim Taylor]

Dan,

There is a Google group forum for Avare, apps4v. The link is off the Avare web page. The developers usually answer quickly.

[Dan Marotta]

Thanks, Tim.Â* I'll take a look!

On 3/20/2019 11:42 PM, Tim Taylor wrote:
> Dan,
>
> There is a Google group forum for Avare, apps4v. The link is off the Avare web page. The developers usually answer quickly.
>

--
Dan, 5J

[[email protected]]

Slightly off topic: my glider is equipped with Trig adsb-out and I have been searching for an adsb-in traffic display. The best solution I've found is a Scout adsb-in ($200) which links via wifi to Foreflight on my iphone. I need Foreflight anyway for other flying, and have an iphone, so don't count those as a cost. I would prefer to install one of the beautiful Flarm traffic displays in my panel, but they don't accept anything except proprietary Flarm data. I wonder why they are so restrictive. I suspect the Flarm people are intentionally being obstructive, to deter adoption of adsb and encourage purchase of Flarm.

[Darryl Ramm]

On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 6:25:08 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> Slightly off topic: my glider is equipped with Trig adsb-out and I have been searching for an adsb-in traffic display. The best solution I've found is a Scout adsb-in ($200) which links via wifi to Foreflight on my iphone. I need Foreflight anyway for other flying, and have an iphone, so don't count those as a cost. I would prefer to install one of the beautiful Flarm traffic displays in my panel, but they don't accept anything except proprietary Flarm data. I wonder why they are so restrictive. I suspect the Flarm people are intentionally being obstructive, to deter adoption of adsb and encourage purchase of Flarm.

Oh yes conspiracy theories. And if you read other recent threads here you'll hopefully see it's not quite that simple.

Foreflight is great, there are no-end of choices of ADS-B In receivers. Starting with uAvionix Sentry, Appareo Stratus, or Stratux if you are technical and want to play with stuff.

If you install a dual-link ADS-B receiver (which you should) make sure the TT22 is set to transmit both the 1090ES In and UAT In capability codes.

[Darryl Ramm]

Oops posted before finishing my point, I would go for those ADS-B receivers before a Scout. They have better antennas and receive performance.

On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:00:00 PM UTC-7, Darryl Ramm wrote:
> On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 6:25:08 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> > Slightly off topic: my glider is equipped with Trig adsb-out and I have been searching for an adsb-in traffic display. The best solution I've found is a Scout adsb-in ($200) which links via wifi to Foreflight on my iphone.. I need Foreflight anyway for other flying, and have an iphone, so don't count those as a cost. I would prefer to install one of the beautiful Flarm traffic displays in my panel, but they don't accept anything except proprietary Flarm data. I wonder why they are so restrictive. I suspect the Flarm people are intentionally being obstructive, to deter adoption of adsb and encourage purchase of Flarm.
>
> Oh yes conspiracy theories. And if you read other recent threads here you'll hopefully see it's not quite that simple.
>
> Foreflight is great, there are no-end of choices of ADS-B In receivers. Starting with uAvionix Sentry, Appareo Stratus, or Stratux if you are technical and want to play with stuff.
>
> If you install a dual-link ADS-B receiver (which you should) make sure the TT22 is set to transmit both the 1090ES In and UAT In capability codes.

[[email protected]]

On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:00:00 PM UTC-7, Darryl Ramm wrote:
> On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 6:25:08 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> > Slightly off topic: my glider is equipped with Trig adsb-out and I have been searching for an adsb-in traffic display. The best solution I've found is a Scout adsb-in ($200) which links via wifi to Foreflight on my iphone.. I need Foreflight anyway for other flying, and have an iphone, so don't count those as a cost. I would prefer to install one of the beautiful Flarm traffic displays in my panel, but they don't accept anything except proprietary Flarm data. I wonder why they are so restrictive. I suspect the Flarm people are intentionally being obstructive, to deter adoption of adsb and encourage purchase of Flarm.
>
> Oh yes conspiracy theories. And if you read other recent threads here you'll hopefully see it's not quite that simple.
>
> Foreflight is great, there are no-end of choices of ADS-B In receivers. Starting with uAvionix Sentry, Appareo Stratus, or Stratux if you are technical and want to play with stuff.
>
> If you install a dual-link ADS-B receiver (which you should) make sure the TT22 is set to transmit both the 1090ES In and UAT In capability codes.

Hi Daryl, Yes, I do have the conspiracy theory that I mentioned. Thanks for the suggestions for receivers, but what I want is a panel-mounted traffic display (like the ones for Flarm) that will accept data from some cheap adsb receiver like the Scout.

[Darryl Ramm]

On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:06:08 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:00:00 PM UTC-7, Darryl Ramm wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 6:25:08 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> > > Slightly off topic: my glider is equipped with Trig adsb-out and I have been searching for an adsb-in traffic display. The best solution I've found is a Scout adsb-in ($200) which links via wifi to Foreflight on my iphone. I need Foreflight anyway for other flying, and have an iphone, so don't count those as a cost. I would prefer to install one of the beautiful Flarm traffic displays in my panel, but they don't accept anything except proprietary Flarm data. I wonder why they are so restrictive. I suspect the Flarm people are intentionally being obstructive, to deter adoption of adsb and encourage purchase of Flarm.
> >
> > Oh yes conspiracy theories. And if you read other recent threads here you'll hopefully see it's not quite that simple.
> >
> > Foreflight is great, there are no-end of choices of ADS-B In receivers. Starting with uAvionix Sentry, Appareo Stratus, or Stratux if you are technical and want to play with stuff.
> >
> > If you install a dual-link ADS-B receiver (which you should) make sure the TT22 is set to transmit both the 1090ES In and UAT In capability codes.
>
> Hi Daryl, Yes, I do have the conspiracy theory that I mentioned. Thanks for the suggestions for receivers, but what I want is a panel-mounted traffic display (like the ones for Flarm) that will accept data from some cheap adsb receiver like the Scout.

I want to date Scarlett Johansson. Don't see that happening either. Probably good reasons in both cases.

The ADS-B combined FLARM display issues are touched on here. https://groups..google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.aviation.soaring/Y6mGy2DUnps

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"I want to date Scarlett Johansson. Don't see that happening either. Probably good reasons in both cases."

Lol, I too want to date Scarlett, But thank you for all of the technical expertise! More than you know, I have learned from you! Thank you.

CH

[[email protected]]

On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:20:07 PM UTC-7, Darryl Ramm wrote:
> On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:06:08 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:00:00 PM UTC-7, Darryl Ramm wrote:
> > > On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 6:25:08 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> > > > Slightly off topic: my glider is equipped with Trig adsb-out and I have been searching for an adsb-in traffic display. The best solution I've found is a Scout adsb-in ($200) which links via wifi to Foreflight on my iphone. I need Foreflight anyway for other flying, and have an iphone, so don't count those as a cost. I would prefer to install one of the beautiful Flarm traffic displays in my panel, but they don't accept anything except proprietary Flarm data. I wonder why they are so restrictive. I suspect the Flarm people are intentionally being obstructive, to deter adoption of adsb and encourage purchase of Flarm.
> > >
> > > Oh yes conspiracy theories. And if you read other recent threads here you'll hopefully see it's not quite that simple.
> > >
> > > Foreflight is great, there are no-end of choices of ADS-B In receivers. Starting with uAvionix Sentry, Appareo Stratus, or Stratux if you are technical and want to play with stuff.
> > >
> > > If you install a dual-link ADS-B receiver (which you should) make sure the TT22 is set to transmit both the 1090ES In and UAT In capability codes.
> >
> > Hi Daryl, Yes, I do have the conspiracy theory that I mentioned. Thanks for the suggestions for receivers, but what I want is a panel-mounted traffic display (like the ones for Flarm) that will accept data from some cheap adsb receiver like the Scout.
>
> I want to date Scarlett Johansson. Don't see that happening either. Probably good reasons in both cases.
>
> The ADS-B combined FLARM display issues are touched on here. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.aviation.soaring/Y6mGy2DUnps

How would Ms Johansson help with an adsb traffic display?

[[email protected]]

On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 10:58:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:20:07 PM UTC-7, Darryl Ramm wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:06:08 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> > > On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:00:00 PM UTC-7, Darryl Ramm wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 6:25:08 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> > > > > Slightly off topic: my glider is equipped with Trig adsb-out and I have been searching for an adsb-in traffic display. The best solution I've found is a Scout adsb-in ($200) which links via wifi to Foreflight on my iphone. I need Foreflight anyway for other flying, and have an iphone, so don't count those as a cost. I would prefer to install one of the beautiful Flarm traffic displays in my panel, but they don't accept anything except proprietary Flarm data. I wonder why they are so restrictive. I suspect the Flarm people are intentionally being obstructive, to deter adoption of adsb and encourage purchase of Flarm.
> > > >
> > > > Oh yes conspiracy theories. And if you read other recent threads here you'll hopefully see it's not quite that simple.
> > > >
> > > > Foreflight is great, there are no-end of choices of ADS-B In receivers. Starting with uAvionix Sentry, Appareo Stratus, or Stratux if you are technical and want to play with stuff.
> > > >
> > > > If you install a dual-link ADS-B receiver (which you should) make sure the TT22 is set to transmit both the 1090ES In and UAT In capability codes.
> > >
> > > Hi Daryl, Yes, I do have the conspiracy theory that I mentioned. Thanks for the suggestions for receivers, but what I want is a panel-mounted traffic display (like the ones for Flarm) that will accept data from some cheap adsb receiver like the Scout.
> >
> > I want to date Scarlett Johansson. Don't see that happening either. Probably good reasons in both cases.
> >
> > The ADS-B combined FLARM display issues are touched on here. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.aviation.soaring/Y6mGy2DUnps
>
> How would Ms Johansson help with an adsb traffic display?

Who is Scarlett Johansson - and what is dating?

[[email protected]]

Scarlett must really know how to tow a trailer.

[Jonathan St. Cloud]

On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:20:07 PM UTC-7, Darryl Ramm wrote:
> On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:06:08 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 7:00:00 PM UTC-7, Darryl Ramm wrote:
> > > On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 6:25:08 PM UTC-7, wrote:
> > > > Slightly off topic: my glider is equipped with Trig adsb-out and I have been searching for an adsb-in traffic display. The best solution I've found is a Scout adsb-in ($200) which links via wifi to Foreflight on my iphone. I need Foreflight anyway for other flying, and have an iphone, so don't count those as a cost. I would prefer to install one of the beautiful Flarm traffic displays in my panel, but they don't accept anything except proprietary Flarm data. I wonder why they are so restrictive. I suspect the Flarm people are intentionally being obstructive, to deter adoption of adsb and encourage purchase of Flarm.
> > >
> > > Oh yes conspiracy theories. And if you read other recent threads here you'll hopefully see it's not quite that simple.
> > >
> > > Foreflight is great, there are no-end of choices of ADS-B In receivers. Starting with uAvionix Sentry, Appareo Stratus, or Stratux if you are technical and want to play with stuff.
> > >
> > > If you install a dual-link ADS-B receiver (which you should) make sure the TT22 is set to transmit both the 1090ES In and UAT In capability codes.
> >
> > Hi Daryl, Yes, I do have the conspiracy theory that I mentioned. Thanks for the suggestions for receivers, but what I want is a panel-mounted traffic display (like the ones for Flarm) that will accept data from some cheap adsb receiver like the Scout.
>
> I want to date Scarlett Johansson. Don't see that happening either. Probably good reasons in both cases.
>
> The ADS-B combined FLARM display issues are touched on here. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.aviation.soaring/Y6mGy2DUnps

Some of you might have seen a post on FB where I compared flying warbirds to dating super models, sounds much better than it is. Haven't dated Scarlett, but have flown lots of hours in warbirds, bottom line, they are just an airplane...

[kirk.stant]

On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 10:58:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:

> How would Ms Johansson help with an adsb traffic display?

She would call out the traffic, because I sure wouldn't be looking at the traffic display!

[Darryl Ramm]

On Monday, April 1, 2019 at 11:27:29 AM UTC-7, kirk.stant wrote:
> On Sunday, March 31, 2019 at 10:58:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:
>
> > How would Ms Johansson help with an adsb traffic display?
>
> She would call out the traffic, because I sure wouldn't be looking at the traffic display!

I'd hope Scarlett might sing out traffic advisories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Qu7iJ7Y2k