Aerobatic Glider Accident Video

[[email protected]]

Said to be a recent aerobatic accident in Germany. No known details. Can you translate what is said at the end of the video? What is the glider type?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm66k3F1bv8

[Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)]

Stop cluttering things up with multiple posts on same issue/question.....replied in your first thread.....

[[email protected]]

The accident happened in Poland and I would argue that this is hardly an aerobatic accident.

[AS]

On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 11:13:59 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> Said to be a recent aerobatic accident in Germany. No known details. Can you translate what is said at the end of the video? What is the glider type?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm66k3F1bv8

Glider looks to be a SZD-9 'Bocian'.
That's not an accident during aerobatic flight; more like caused by 'hot-dogging' or 'show-boating'.
In any case, terrible to watch this - hope both occupants survived!

Uli
'AS'

[Dennis Vreeken]

Avoidable and stupid

[WB]

On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 6:56:51 PM UTC-5, Dennis vreeken wrote:
> Avoidable and stupid

That flight did not rise to the level of stupid. It was all but suicidal.

[Paul Agnew]

I had the accident report, but can't find the link right now. I believe it was report 1070/18, but I can't locate the Polish digital archiving agency through Google.

The report I looked at last week has shots from the passenger's camera that show he was well into the yellow on the airspeed indicator on final approach and he had a tailwind.

Paul A.

[Paul Agnew]

Found it in my History file...


http://www.pkbwl.gov.pl/images/raporty/Informacja_o_zdarzeniu_1070_2018.pdf

You don't have to read Polish to understand most of what happened.

Here's the translated findings:

The Commission found that:
1. The glider possessed all technical and operational documents.
2. The pilot had the necessary qualifications to perform the flight.
3. The pilot performed acrobatics on a glider not admitted to aerobatics due to the year
glider production (over 25 years).
4. The pilot performed acrobatics below the height of 300 m.
5. The pilot tried to make a 180 ° turn to the landing pad at too low a height and speed.

PA

[AS]

On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 9:25:50 PM UTC-4, Paul Agnew wrote:
> Found it in my History file...
>
>
> http://www.pkbwl.gov.pl/images/raporty/Informacja_o_zdarzeniu_1070_2018.pdf
>
> You don't have to read Polish to understand most of what happened.
>
> Here's the translated findings:
>
> The Commission found that:
> 1. The glider possessed all technical and operational documents.
> 2. The pilot had the necessary qualifications to perform the flight.
> 3. The pilot performed acrobatics on a glider not admitted to aerobatics due to the year
> glider production (over 25 years).
> 4. The pilot performed acrobatics below the height of 300 m.
> 5. The pilot tried to make a 180 ° turn to the landing pad at too low a height and speed.
>
> PA

Thanks for that report, Paul! Google-Translate revealed that there were no fatal, one serious and one light injury (seventh line). Not hard to figure out who suffered which injury.
So avoidable!

Uli
'AS'

[Andrzej Kobus]

On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 9:25:50 PM UTC-4, Paul Agnew wrote:
> Found it in my History file...
>
>
> http://www.pkbwl.gov.pl/images/raporty/Informacja_o_zdarzeniu_1070_2018.pdf
>
> You don't have to read Polish to understand most of what happened.
>
> Here's the translated findings:
>
> The Commission found that:
> 1. The glider possessed all technical and operational documents.
> 2. The pilot had the necessary qualifications to perform the flight.
> 3. The pilot performed acrobatics on a glider not admitted to aerobatics due to the year
> glider production (over 25 years).
> 4. The pilot performed acrobatics below the height of 300 m.
> 5. The pilot tried to make a 180 ° turn to the landing pad at too low a height and speed.
>
> PA

The worst thing is that the pilot was an instructor and the passenger was there only for a ride. The passenger was in the front and he/she was the one that ended up with serious injures. This pilot/instructor needs to spend some time in jail.

[Tango Eight]

On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 9:13:43 PM UTC-4, Paul Agnew wrote:
> I had the accident report, but can't find the link right now. I believe it was report 1070/18, but I can't locate the Polish digital archiving agency through Google.
>
> The report I looked at last week has shots from the passenger's camera that show he was well into the yellow on the airspeed indicator on final approach and he had a tailwind.
>
> Paul A.

The ASI is in km/hr. 140 km/hr is about 76 kts.

T8

[Bob Kuykendall]

On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-7, Paul Agnew wrote:
> I had the accident report, but can't find the link right now...

I put together this translation with Google Translate, and with the help of Bartek Klusek for the figure callouts:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1t2iFOCa1tSnGdUGUqXfbduJ4d6XGUMqa

--Bob K.

[[email protected]]

On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 11:19:20 AM UTC-7, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
> On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-7, Paul Agnew wrote:
> > I had the accident report, but can't find the link right now...
>
> I put together this translation with Google Translate, and with the help of Bartek Klusek for the figure callouts:
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1t2iFOCa1tSnGdUGUqXfbduJ4d6XGUMqa
>
> --Bob K.

The report is clear and should form unanimous consensus as to cause: Failed to establish flight line to pilot right side of field before making a left 180 and thus striking a tree.

[Andrzej Kobus]

On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 4:19:56 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 11:19:20 AM UTC-7, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
> > On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-7, Paul Agnew wrote:
> > > I had the accident report, but can't find the link right now...
> >
> > I put together this translation with Google Translate, and with the help of Bartek Klusek for the figure callouts:
> >
> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1t2iFOCa1tSnGdUGUqXfbduJ4d6XGUMqa
> >
> > --Bob K.
>
> The report is clear and should form unanimous consensus as to cause: Failed to establish flight line to pilot right side of field before making a left 180 and thus striking a tree.

I think the real cause of this accident was the pilot's attitude.

[[email protected]]

On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 1:38:21 PM UTC-7, Andrzej Kobus wrote:
> On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 4:19:56 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> > On Monday, March 25, 2019 at 11:19:20 AM UTC-7, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
> > > On Sunday, March 24, 2019 at 6:13:43 PM UTC-7, Paul Agnew wrote:
> > > > I had the accident report, but can't find the link right now...
> > >
> > > I put together this translation with Google Translate, and with the help of Bartek Klusek for the figure callouts:
> > >
> > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1t2iFOCa1tSnGdUGUqXfbduJ4d6XGUMqa
> > >
> > > --Bob K.
> >
> > The report is clear and should form unanimous consensus as to cause: Failed to establish flight line to pilot right side of field before making a left 180 and thus striking a tree.
>
> I think the real cause of this accident was the pilot's attitude.

Yes, I agree with that and your other post. I was making a joke (in very bad taste).

[George Haeh]

The report notes that many similar flights had been done previously. When the margins are that thin, the day usually comes when the margins are blown.

The VNE exceedance shown in a frame grab from a previous flight makes me wonder if the Blanik that lost a wing had been subjected to similar abuse.

[Jonathan St. Cloud]

On Wednesday, March 27, 2019 at 10:21:05 AM UTC-7, George Haeh wrote:
> The report notes that many similar flights had been done previously. When the margins are that thin, the day usually comes when the margins are blown.
>
> The VNE exceedance shown in a frame grab from a previous flight makes me wonder if the Blanik that lost a wing had been subjected to similar abuse.

If you have never been to an Eastern block country: (1)you should go, (2) I have never noticed rules to be of much use in general. Aviation might be every different, but the people are wonderful.