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Mal
December 1st 04, 12:05 AM
I have purchased a Navman pin has built in Gps

Have a Volkslogger but no need to connect it to the navman pin.

I will be using it in Australia what is the better of the two.

Mal

jorgie
December 1st 04, 01:58 AM
You cold also consider XCSoar which is available for free. It is not as
sophisicated. However, it depends of what you want.

Try looking at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XCSoar/


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Paul Remde
December 1st 04, 05:23 AM
Hi,

I sell and support StrePla. It shines in regard to maps and in-flight
optimizations.

WinPilot is excellent software as well. I don't sell WinPilot but I have
flown with it in the past.

I have not tested either product on the Navman Pin but you could install the
demo versions of each product for testing.

You may also want to consider SeeYou Mobile and Glide Navigator II. Those
are the 4 most popular options.

I have created a soaring flight software comparison web page which may help
you decide. It is available here:
http://www.soarmn.com/cumulus/software-ppc.htm

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com

"Mal" > wrote in message
...
> I have purchased a Navman pin has built in Gps
>
> Have a Volkslogger but no need to connect it to the navman pin.
>
> I will be using it in Australia what is the better of the two.
>
> Mal
>
>

Henryk Birecki
December 1st 04, 05:59 PM
Go to http://www.soaringpilotsoftware.com and look for GPS_LOG WinCE.
Navman uses 75600 baud rate (or is it 76000)

Henryk Birecki


"Mal" > wrote:

>I have purchased a Navman pin has built in Gps
>
>Have a Volkslogger but no need to connect it to the navman pin.
>
>I will be using it in Australia what is the better of the two.
>
>Mal
>

iPilot
December 1st 04, 06:17 PM
Try GPS_LOG, which may seem a little complicated at first, but after getting
used to is one pretty good piece of software. Contrary to XCSoar it's
actively supported and developed further by Henryk Bierki.


www.soaringpilotsoftware.com


"Mal" > wrote in message
...
> I have purchased a Navman pin has built in Gps
>
> Have a Volkslogger but no need to connect it to the navman pin.
>
> I will be using it in Australia what is the better of the two.
>
> Mal
>
>

Bob Lepp
December 1st 04, 06:18 PM
"Paul Remde" > wrote in message news:<hzcrd.118507$V41.113826@attbi_s52>...
> Hi,

Snip
> I have created a soaring flight software comparison web page which may help
> you decide. It is available here:
> http://www.soarmn.com/cumulus/software-ppc.htm
>
> Good Soaring,
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
> http://www.cumulus-soaring.com

Great chart!

SeeYou now has a free product called ConnectMe to up/download
flights/waypoints/tasks/declaration to many loggers, so you may wish
to update the chart.

While it is standalone from Mobile SeeYou (even users of other
products can have it free) I see it as 'part' of that product.


<a
href="http://connectme.seeyou.ws/">http://connectme.seeyou.ws/</a>


Bob

Mal
December 1st 04, 11:38 PM
Thanks Guys I have strepla demo and will get the others to test.

Paul what cable can I use between the Volkslogger and the Navman PIN

I have a discount certificate that came with my Volksloger do you give the
discount as well Paul ?

Mal

"Paul Remde" > wrote in message
news:hzcrd.118507$V41.113826@attbi_s52...
> Hi,
>
> I sell and support StrePla. It shines in regard to maps and in-flight
> optimizations.
>
> WinPilot is excellent software as well. I don't sell WinPilot but I have
> flown with it in the past.
>
> I have not tested either product on the Navman Pin but you could install
> the
> demo versions of each product for testing.
>
> You may also want to consider SeeYou Mobile and Glide Navigator II. Those
> are the 4 most popular options.
>
> I have created a soaring flight software comparison web page which may
> help
> you decide. It is available here:
> http://www.soarmn.com/cumulus/software-ppc.htm
>
> Good Soaring,
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
> http://www.cumulus-soaring.com
>
> "Mal" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I have purchased a Navman pin has built in Gps
>>
>> Have a Volkslogger but no need to connect it to the navman pin.
>>
>> I will be using it in Australia what is the better of the two.
>>
>> Mal
>>
>>
>
>

Mal
December 2nd 04, 02:54 AM
It does not work on a Navman PIN it says the com port is already in use


"jorgie" > wrote in message
...
>
> You cold also consider XCSoar which is available for free. It is not as
> sophisicated. However, it depends of what you want.
>
> Try looking at:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XCSoar/
>
>
> --
> jorgie
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Posted via OziPilots Online [ http://www.OziPilotsOnline.com.au ]
> - A website for Australian Pilots regardless of when, why, or what they
> fly -
>

Mal
December 2nd 04, 09:36 AM
Bundle for update customer
Update to StrePla3 Standard version from version 1.xx, version 2.xx and
OEM version, as described above and
pocket*StrePlaŽ Standard version for PocketPC (e.g. iPAQ),
as described above by simultaneous order EUR 237.07

My Volkslogger-Voucher-Number is:
(only for Volkslogger customer)


My CPU-ID is:

(Please do not use the serial number. Install pocket*StrePla and read than
the CPU-ID.)

You save EUR 29.31 in relation to the single purchase



$316.410 USD

$405.327 AUD



Is that voucher valid with you Paul



www.mals.net

Paul Remde
December 2nd 04, 07:59 PM
Hi Mal,

It is my understanding that the Navman PIN has an internal GPS so you
shouldn't need a cable to connect to an external GPS.

I can sell StrePla to you at the discounted price if you have the voucher
that came with the Volkslogger.

Paul Remde

"Mal" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Guys I have strepla demo and will get the others to test.
>
> Paul what cable can I use between the Volkslogger and the Navman PIN
>
> I have a discount certificate that came with my Volksloger do you give the
> discount as well Paul ?
>
> Mal
>
> "Paul Remde" > wrote in message
> news:hzcrd.118507$V41.113826@attbi_s52...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I sell and support StrePla. It shines in regard to maps and in-flight
> > optimizations.
> >
> > WinPilot is excellent software as well. I don't sell WinPilot but I
have
> > flown with it in the past.
> >
> > I have not tested either product on the Navman Pin but you could install
> > the
> > demo versions of each product for testing.
> >
> > You may also want to consider SeeYou Mobile and Glide Navigator II.
Those
> > are the 4 most popular options.
> >
> > I have created a soaring flight software comparison web page which may
> > help
> > you decide. It is available here:
> > http://www.soarmn.com/cumulus/software-ppc.htm
> >
> > Good Soaring,
> >
> > Paul Remde
> > Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
> > http://www.cumulus-soaring.com
> >
> > "Mal" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> I have purchased a Navman pin has built in Gps
> >>
> >> Have a Volkslogger but no need to connect it to the navman pin.
> >>
> >> I will be using it in Australia what is the better of the two.
> >>
> >> Mal
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Paul Remde
December 2nd 04, 08:02 PM
Hi Mal,

You will probably need to do some searching to find out on which comm port
the GPS data is available. I suggest you try using the free "Crux_View.exe"
utility that is available on my GPS page to test for the PIN's GPS on comm
ports 1 through 9. If that doesn't work it may not be possible to use the
PIN's GPS.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/gps.htm

I believe pocket*StrePla cannot connect to a GPS until you install a license
file. That may be the problem.

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com

"Mal" > wrote in message
...
> It does not work on a Navman PIN it says the com port is already in use
>
>
> "jorgie" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > You cold also consider XCSoar which is available for free. It is not as
> > sophisicated. However, it depends of what you want.
> >
> > Try looking at:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XCSoar/
> >
> >
> > --
> > jorgie
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Posted via OziPilots Online [ http://www.OziPilotsOnline.com.au ]
> > - A website for Australian Pilots regardless of when, why, or what they
> > fly -
> >
>
>

Paul Remde
December 2nd 04, 08:04 PM
Hi Mal,

I can sell the upgrade to you. It is available for StrePla only, or for a
"Bundle" of StrePla and pocket*StrePla. Details are available here:
http://www.soarmn.com/cumulus/strepla-prices.htm

Thank you,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com

"Mal" > wrote in message
...
> Bundle for update customer
> Update to StrePla3 Standard version from version 1.xx, version 2.xx and
> OEM version, as described above and
> pocket*StrePlaŽ Standard version for PocketPC (e.g. iPAQ),
> as described above by simultaneous order EUR 237.07
>
> My Volkslogger-Voucher-Number is:
> (only for Volkslogger customer)
>
>
> My CPU-ID is:
>
> (Please do not use the serial number. Install pocket*StrePla and read
than
> the CPU-ID.)
>
> You save EUR 29.31 in relation to the single purchase
>
>
>
> $316.410 USD
>
> $405.327 AUD
>
>
>
> Is that voucher valid with you Paul
>
>
>
> www.mals.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Mal
December 3rd 04, 12:52 AM
Sorry Paul XCSoar does not work with Navman PIN the gps uses COM 2

I am sure win pilot strepla will work as the cater for Navman in the setup I
am aware I have to pay hence my pain staking research.

thanks Mal

"Paul Remde" > wrote in message
news:3xKrd.502083$D%.394489@attbi_s51...
> Hi Mal,
>
> You will probably need to do some searching to find out on which comm port
> the GPS data is available. I suggest you try using the free
> "Crux_View.exe"
> utility that is available on my GPS page to test for the PIN's GPS on comm
> ports 1 through 9. If that doesn't work it may not be possible to use the
> PIN's GPS.
> http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/gps.htm
>
> I believe pocket*StrePla cannot connect to a GPS until you install a
> license
> file. That may be the problem.
>
> Paul Remde
> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
> http://www.cumulus-soaring.com
>
> "Mal" > wrote in message
> ...
>> It does not work on a Navman PIN it says the com port is already in use
>>
>>
>> "jorgie" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > You cold also consider XCSoar which is available for free. It is not as
>> > sophisicated. However, it depends of what you want.
>> >
>> > Try looking at:
>> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/XCSoar/
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > jorgie
>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Posted via OziPilots Online [ http://www.OziPilotsOnline.com.au ]
>> > - A website for Australian Pilots regardless of when, why, or what they
>> > fly -
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Marc Ramsey
December 3rd 04, 01:05 AM
Mal wrote:
> Sorry Paul XCSoar does not work with Navman PIN the gps uses COM 2

Of course, since XCSoar is now an open source project, if you ask
nicely, someone might fix it...

Marc

jorgie
December 3rd 04, 03:11 AM
>Try GPS_LOG, which may seem a little complicated at first, but >after
getting
>used to is one pretty good piece of software. Contrary to XCSoar it's
>actively supported and developed further by Henryk Bierki.


I guess it depends on your view point as to wether a product is
supported or not. True it is not now developed by the orginal people
who started it. However, the source code is available for free and I'm
sure that somebody you know would be able to work out how to modify the
code to function on the Navman

I'm happy to try GPS_LOG and will do so next time I fly.... in the mean
time if it can load a map image and some air space files now that would
be funky.


--
jorgie
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Veli-Matti Karppinen
December 4th 04, 10:39 AM
jorgie wrote:
>>Try GPS_LOG, which may seem a little complicated at first, but >after
>
> getting
>
>>used to is one pretty good piece of software. Contrary to XCSoar it's
>>actively supported and developed further by Henryk Bierki.
>
>
>
> I guess it depends on your view point as to wether a product is
> supported or not. True it is not now developed by the orginal people
> who started it. However, the source code is available for free and I'm
> sure that somebody you know would be able to work out how to modify the
> code to function on the Navman
>
> I'm happy to try GPS_LOG and will do so next time I fly.... in the mean
> time if it can load a map image and some air space files now that would
> be funky.
>
>
> --
> jorgie

Hi

Henryk does a great job supporting GPS_LOG, the latest example being the
DAFIFtoMAP program, which creates the airspace file of your choice based
on DAFIF data. Lots of maps are already available and the web site
contains the information needed to create your own maps, once again
using geographical data from internet. It may look first a bit
complicated, but it isn't :-). Also you get good support from the user
community if you have questions.

Take a look at http://www.soaringpilotsoftware.com , you can find the
yahoogroups info for GPS_LOG also there.

Regards

Veli-Matti

Mal
December 4th 04, 09:37 PM
Crux view works com 2 4800 baud

maybe XCsoar will work sometimes get com port in use could be navman
conflict

Mal

"Veli-Matti Karppinen" > wrote in message
...
> jorgie wrote:
>>>Try GPS_LOG, which may seem a little complicated at first, but >after
>>
>> getting
>>
>>>used to is one pretty good piece of software. Contrary to XCSoar it's
>>>actively supported and developed further by Henryk Bierki.
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess it depends on your view point as to wether a product is
>> supported or not. True it is not now developed by the orginal people
>> who started it. However, the source code is available for free and I'm
>> sure that somebody you know would be able to work out how to modify the
>> code to function on the Navman
>>
>> I'm happy to try GPS_LOG and will do so next time I fly.... in the mean
>> time if it can load a map image and some air space files now that would
>> be funky.
>>
>>
>> --
>> jorgie
>
> Hi
>
> Henryk does a great job supporting GPS_LOG, the latest example being the
> DAFIFtoMAP program, which creates the airspace file of your choice based
> on DAFIF data. Lots of maps are already available and the web site
> contains the information needed to create your own maps, once again using
> geographical data from internet. It may look first a bit
> complicated, but it isn't :-). Also you get good support from the user
> community if you have questions.
>
> Take a look at http://www.soaringpilotsoftware.com , you can find the
> yahoogroups info for GPS_LOG also there.
>
> Regards
>
> Veli-Matti

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