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TeamP1
December 22nd 04, 08:59 PM
Hey

listen to Al...

He knows...

PW5 sucks... If some one has different opinion, please DO NOT let us
know as this conversation has been done and overwith sooooooo many
times...

Open class rulez... (or ventus what ever :)

Soarenger

December 22nd 04, 11:10 PM
Having flown 3 hours in a PW5 I can honestly say it was one of the most
underwhelming points of my soaring career.

Now if I take my ASW22 I have over 800 hours in that and I must say its
jolly nice!!

I liked the ASW17 and the Ventus B 16.6 was a great machine too.
My old Libelle and Kestrel were again great ships each with there own
plusses and minuses.

I find it funny that my old SZD59 at 13M would out perform a PW5 and
could pull 7G's

Guess the SZD 59 was the nearest I ever got to a PW5 ownership. But
you cant fly a PW5 inverted in the wave pulling snap rolls.

Yup case closed... PW5's really do suck!!

Al
owner of former owner of Libelle, Kestrel, ASW22, SZD59, ASW17, Ventus
B, Nimbus2M

Eric Greenwell
December 22nd 04, 11:52 PM
wrote:

> Yup case closed... PW5's really do suck!!
>
> Al
> owner of former owner of Libelle, Kestrel, ASW22, SZD59, ASW17, Ventus
> B, Nimbus2M

Uh, Al? Gliderforum just called - apparently, someone just praised a PW5
on one of the message boards, and they need assistance trouncing him.

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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

December 23rd 04, 01:04 AM
Gliderforum only has a filter for Leonard the lunatic's class C IP
subnet

All other conversation is free flowing except Redsell who got voted off
by the members.

RAS is where the loons hang out.

Eric you updated your photo for soaring magazine yet?
Al
http://www.gliderforum.com
A better place to discuss soaring.

Mark James Boyd
December 23rd 04, 02:11 AM
In article om>,
> wrote:
>Having flown 3 hours in a PW5 I can honestly say it was one of the most
>underwhelming points of my soaring career.

Did you fly it right after flying 2-33s and 1-26s, or
right after flying the 22?

After dating Britney Spears, Rosanne Barr may not be so great.

But after 6 months on a Navy ship, even Barbara Bush would be considered
quite a catch. (No offense to you stalwart Republicans ;)

It's all about perspective...
:PPPPPPPP
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Eric Greenwell
December 23rd 04, 02:49 AM
wrote:

> Gliderforum only has a filter for Leonard the lunatic's class C IP
> subnet
>
> All other conversation is free flowing except Redsell who got voted off
> by the members.
>
> RAS is where the loons hang out.
>
> Eric you updated your photo for soaring magazine yet?

You're not keeping up, Al!
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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

Mark James Boyd
December 23rd 04, 07:11 AM
> wrote:
>You might have a point there Mark
>
>Even if you cant find Minden NV :)

I'm not THAT stupid. Minden is NOT in North Virgina.
God, you guys think
I'm gonna fall for THAT one agin. I studied geology
in fifth grade, twice. So I knew better.
U guys are real kidders...
Har har...
Love fest indeed...

>I think it was Terry Delorre who said after flying a PW5.
>"Its like masturbating with a cheese grater..... Curious but not very
>satisfying."
>
>Al
>


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Mark J. Boyd

December 23rd 04, 07:15 AM
You might have a point there Mark

Even if you cant find Minden NV :)

I think it was Terry Delorre who said after flying a PW5.
"Its like masturbating with a cheese grater..... Curious but not very
satisfying."

Al

Greybeard
December 23rd 04, 03:01 PM
On 22 Dec 2004 17:04:38 -0800, "
> wrote:

>Gliderforum only has a filter for Leonard the lunatic's class C IP
>subnet
>
My, my. Al the anus is still proud of that, but I still haven't made
any attempt to jump into his ****pit. Which brings up the question,
as my ISP doesn't assign static IP, it must mean he's blocked everyone
that uses my ISP? Way to go! fathead!

John Sinclair
December 23rd 04, 03:21 PM
What you flying now, AL? I heard you were looking at
a Ventus A model. Did you sell the VB?
JJ

At 00:00 23 December 2004, wrote:
>Having flown 3 hours in a PW5 I can honestly say it
>was one of the most
>underwhelming points of my soaring career.
>
>Now if I take my ASW22 I have over 800 hours in that
>and I must say its
>jolly nice!!
>
>I liked the ASW17 and the Ventus B 16.6 was a great
>machine too.
>My old Libelle and Kestrel were again great ships each
>with there own
>plusses and minuses.
>
>I find it funny that my old SZD59 at 13M would out
>perform a PW5 and
>could pull 7G's
>
>Guess the SZD 59 was the nearest I ever got to a PW5
>ownership. But
>you cant fly a PW5 inverted in the wave pulling snap
>rolls.
>
>Yup case closed... PW5's really do suck!!
>
>Al
>owner of former owner of Libelle, Kestrel, ASW22, SZD59,
>ASW17, Ventus
>B, Nimbus2M
>
>

December 23rd 04, 04:48 PM
Got my old ASW22 back.

Al

December 23rd 04, 04:51 PM
Just the one close enough to be on your local router not the entire
ISP.

But as the internet isn't made of lathes what do you care.
Did you even fly last season?

Al

Greybeard
December 23rd 04, 07:54 PM
On 23 Dec 2004 08:51:35 -0800, "
> wrote:

>Just the one close enough to be on your local router not the entire
>ISP.

Which could also take out a few glider pilots, but that's your loss,
not mine. But then, if they're not in my address book, and they
aren't, they go directly to the bit bucket from the server and I never
see them.
>
>But as the internet isn't made of lathes what do you care.

For every glider owner, there are at least 20 lathe owners. For every
pilot, there are at least 1000 machinists.

>Did you even fly last season?

In November I celebrated three years without stepping foot into a
cockpit. I did, however, goof and have my name on the schedule for an
hour in a 2-33, but fortunately fate stepped in and downed the tow
plane each time. (Two weeks of fuel bladder leaks, and then a prop
strike on a runway light. ) The alternative, the grob 103sl is not
acceptable, and was refused when offered. $150 fell through the
cracks and disappeared, and I can't say that I really care. (Were I
still flying, I'd be counting that in tows and rental fees. Much
better when I don't even have to look at it. That's two 3k tows and
an hours dual, including renting the plane.)
>

December 23rd 04, 10:09 PM
So if you havent flown in 3 years.....

Why do you even bother with this group?

Its obvious you have nothing to offer the group your not even a
pilot!!!
You never will .....

Go back to rec.metalworking

Al

Paul
December 23rd 04, 10:22 PM
> wrote in message
ups.com...
>> I think it was Terry Delorre who said after flying a PW5.
> "Its like masturbating with a cheese grater..... Curious but not very
> satisfying."

and I think it was Ben Flewett who remarked on seeing the PW 5 for the first
time that it ' It looks like an escape pod for an ASH 25'

Mhudson126
December 24th 04, 12:36 AM
Al,
I believe your quotes are misinformed, as I was the one that the "Masturbating
with a cheese grater" quote was originally directed at by none other than KF.
(You know EXACTLY who I am talking about)

The situation was this: After 13 years of flying a 1-26, I was allowed to fly
a Nimbus II for my first time in big glass. I was quickly in heaven, and while
in a thermal with KF and Z, I remarked "Hey KF, I'll sell you my 1-26 so I can
buy a glass bird". The immediate response on 123.3 was "Mitch, do you think I
LIKE the idea of masturbating with a cheese grater?!?!" At which point Zulu
lost the core of the thermal because he was laughing so hard, and subsequently
a cheese grater was installed covertly into CG's cockpit and is handed off from
pilot to pilot as the legend grows.

Surely you did not forget THAT quickly since KF has been out of the country?

-Mitch
(This flight in the Nimbus ended up costing me $29,000 for a used Discus)

Greybeard
December 24th 04, 12:36 AM
On 23 Dec 2004 14:09:17 -0800, "
> wrote:

>So if you havent flown in 3 years.....

Goddam proud of it too.
>
>Why do you even bother with this group?

Why would you care? You have your private ****pit.
>
>Its obvious you have nothing to offer the group your not even a
>pilot!!!
>You never will .....

Give a ****
>
>Go back to rec.metalworking

Go screw yourself. Do it twice.
>
>Al

I consider you comic relief, nothing else.

But even that's a lot to expect of the cosmic rock.

December 24th 04, 05:51 AM
I think I toldKF that and she reused the quote dig deep and you will
find Mr T. DeLore as the source....

Say hi to the Hill Billy when you see him next.
Does he still have the sharks fins on his Discus?

Al

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