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Peter Millenaar
January 4th 05, 02:35 PM
>I noticed one thing: The ASK-21 in your video has "braces" (Dunno
what they
>are properly called) inside the canopy that those of my future club
don't
>seem to have:
>
> http://www.akaflieg-bonn.de/flugbetr/flugzeug.htm
>
>Or
>
> http://www.alexander-schleicher.de/englisch/produkte/ask21/e_ask21_main.htm
>
>Is that a question of age or some special modification?

Hi,

These bars are a protection against the barbed wires (when
outlanding). There have been deadly accidents with gliders that hadn't
got these and outlanded it a too short field (not in our glidingclub I
believe).

So that's why all of our club's gliders have one installed.

Regards,
Peter.

p.s. in Dutch we call them "prikkeldraadstangen" (don't know how to
translate it, but something like "barbed wire bars").

André Somers
January 4th 05, 02:42 PM
Peter Millenaar wrote:

>>I noticed one thing: The ASK-21 in your video has "braces" (Dunno
>> what they are properly called) inside the canopy
>>Is that a question of age or some special modification?

> These bars are a protection against the barbed wires (when
> outlanding). There have been deadly accidents with gliders that hadn't
> got these and outlanded it a too short field (not in our glidingclub I
> believe).
>
> So that's why all of our club's gliders have one installed.
These protective bars even used to be mandatory for all Dutch gliders. This
is no longer the case however. The bars did save some pilots for
decapitation however when hitting a wire fence.

André

stephanevdv
January 4th 05, 08:43 PM
> I noticed one thing: The ASK-21 in your video has "braces" (Dunno what
> they are properly called) inside the canopy
Until a few years ago, all Dutch gliders had to be modified by adding
these "barbed wire deflectors". A sensible precaution in a country
where outlanding fields are often small and fenced in with barbed wire
or electric wire. This mandatory mod has been done away with due to
European rulemaking. It was considered an obstacle to free trade
policies.


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tango4
January 8th 05, 01:13 PM
prikkeldraadstangen

Quite literaly it means ' prickly wire longerons'. Pretty much what they
are!

:-)
Ian

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