Glideport problem

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Glideport is refusing to verify my new Garmin Inreach map sharing address. I am using the listed address obtained from the Garmin Inreach site. This address works on the SSA site. Anybody got any ideas?

[Ramy[_2_]]

There is a known problem with glideport and Ineaches. Many Inreaches stop showing on glideport after sometime, often without their owner knowledge.
Mine stops showing 1-2 times per year. Everytime it happens I email Pedja the owner of glideport and he fixes it. Obviously this is not a sclable solution.

Ramy

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Garmin has a new format for the url for their map page which they assig. A friend is having an issue on SSA site and Glideport. He has notified Pedja but so far no joy. This what the url looks like https://us0-share.inreach.garmin.com/share/*****. The asterisks can be customized. The prior format https://share.garmin.com/*****

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On Saturday, May 4, 2019 at 11:06:46 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> Glideport is refusing to verify my new Garmin Inreach map sharing address. I am using the listed address obtained from the Garmin Inreach site. This address works on the SSA site. Anybody got any ideas?

I also just tried entering my inReach share URL at Glideport and get: "inReach key did not verify." I can save the URL on the SSA site but no track shows up. Emailed the SSA but haven't heard back. Anyone have a solution?

[pjschae]

I have emailed Glideport twice with no response.

[Frank Whiteley]

On Saturday, May 4, 2019 at 11:06:46 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> Glideport is refusing to verify my new Garmin Inreach map sharing address. I am using the listed address obtained from the Garmin Inreach site. This address works on the SSA site. Anybody got any ideas?

I spoke with the new administrator Friday and he's aware of the issue but not sure he's been able to contact the old administrator for assistance, which may be needed.

Frank Whiteley

[pjschae]

Thanks Frank!

[Ramy[_2_]]

Frank,

Who is the new administrator? My inreach keep disapearing from the SSA tracker every few month and the response time to get it back is growing exponentially. It is not a problem on the inreach side since the trace are showing on the inreach web site. I know of other inreaches suffering similar fate. I consider this a high priority safety issue since this is the main tool folks are using to check on their buddies to make sure they make it home safe.

Thanks,

Ramy

[Frank Whiteley]

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 10:20:01 PM UTC-6, Ramy wrote:
> Frank,
>
> Who is the new administrator? My inreach keep disapearing from the SSA tracker every few month and the response time to get it back is growing exponentially. It is not a problem on the inreach side since the trace are showing on the inreach web site. I know of other inreaches suffering similar fate. I consider this a high priority safety issue since this is the main tool folks are using to check on their buddies to make sure they make it home safe.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ramy

Johann Posch. See SSA member locator.

Frank

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Will the new administrator fix some of the other annoyances on that site? E.g., when you click "search", it goes ahead and repeats the last search you've done in the past, which takes a while, and only after that you can enter the search that you actually want to do. Plus the search string format is not obvious and too easy to get no hits if you enter something wrong.

Yeah I know, money back guarantee :-) Thanks for the site, but also thanks if you improve it further.

[Ramy[_2_]]

Unfortunately there is no new administrator. I talked to the new administrator and he is too busy.
No one currently administer or maintain glideport (aka SSA tracker) which is very unfortunate since it is a great tool but whenever inreach server don’t respond from whatever reason it marks that particular inreach as inactive so over time I think maybe half of the inreaches are no longer showing on the tracker, including mine. Not sure if this is only inreach or also spot. So we can no longer rely on it and either find someone who has the time and skills to take it over or switch to alternative such as glidertracker.org.

Ramy

[soarsz]

When I originally posted my concern about Glideport, I was unable to get it to accept my new Garmin/Inreach mapshare link. I tried again a few days ago and Glideport accepted my link, and my wife subsequently saw my tracking.. I have since then gone back to check and my new link is still there, so I think someone has fixed the code issue which was causing a problem with the changed mapshare format introduced by Garmin sometime in the last few months.

[Frank Whiteley]

On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 1:38:25 PM UTC-6, soarsz wrote:
> When I originally posted my concern about Glideport, I was unable to get it to accept my new Garmin/Inreach mapshare link. I tried again a few days ago and Glideport accepted my link, and my wife subsequently saw my tracking. I have since then gone back to check and my new link is still there, so I think someone has fixed the code issue which was causing a problem with the changed mapshare format introduced by Garmin sometime in the last few months.

Monday morning, none of the contests were loading, only normal tracking was working. However, contests loaded fine a bit later. Perhaps a server restart was in progress earlier, or a process had to be restarted. Never heard back if there was intervention.

Frank Whiteley

[Ramy[_2_]]

On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 12:46:01 PM UTC-7, Frank Whiteley wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 1:38:25 PM UTC-6, soarsz wrote:
> > When I originally posted my concern about Glideport, I was unable to get it to accept my new Garmin/Inreach mapshare link. I tried again a few days ago and Glideport accepted my link, and my wife subsequently saw my tracking. I have since then gone back to check and my new link is still there, so I think someone has fixed the code issue which was causing a problem with the changed mapshare format introduced by Garmin sometime in the last few months.
>
> Monday morning, none of the contests were loading, only normal tracking was working. However, contests loaded fine a bit later. Perhaps a server restart was in progress earlier, or a process had to be restarted. Never heard back if there was intervention.
>
> Frank Whiteley

There are multiple unrelated issues reported in this thread.
First the format is still https://share.garmin.com/xxxxxxx the new format someone suggested is incorrect so dont try this new format.
The issue I am having has nothing to do with anything discussed here. According to Pedja “GP has logic that when there are many unsuccessful consecutive attempts to retrieve data for a device, it gives up and marks the device as invalid. Apparently inReach servers were down for long enough for that to happen…”

This issue repeated itself for me twice a year and for those who fly less frequently maybe not as often. But the end result is that once your InReach is marked as invalid you will never show up again without admin intervention. Creating a new account does not fix the issue. I know of few other inreaches which were dropped permanently and I bet there are many more. I suggested to Pedja at the rime to remove this logic of marking devices as invalid when servers are down, but I guess this logic still exists and now there is no one to fix this. I would be happy to click a donate button if this will help sustaining and improving this valuable service.

Bottom line, glideport is unreliable now.

Sigh!

Ramy

[Frank Whiteley]

On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 2:50:40 PM UTC-6, Ramy wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 12:46:01 PM UTC-7, Frank Whiteley wrote:
> > On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 1:38:25 PM UTC-6, soarsz wrote:
> > > When I originally posted my concern about Glideport, I was unable to get it to accept my new Garmin/Inreach mapshare link. I tried again a few days ago and Glideport accepted my link, and my wife subsequently saw my tracking. I have since then gone back to check and my new link is still there, so I think someone has fixed the code issue which was causing a problem with the changed mapshare format introduced by Garmin sometime in the last few months.
> >
> > Monday morning, none of the contests were loading, only normal tracking was working. However, contests loaded fine a bit later. Perhaps a server restart was in progress earlier, or a process had to be restarted. Never heard back if there was intervention.
> >
> > Frank Whiteley
>
> There are multiple unrelated issues reported in this thread.
> First the format is still https://share.garmin.com/xxxxxxx the new format someone suggested is incorrect so dont try this new format.
> The issue I am having has nothing to do with anything discussed here. According to Pedja “GP has logic that when there are many unsuccessful consecutive attempts to retrieve data for a device, it gives up and marks the device as invalid. Apparently inReach servers were down for long enough for that to happen…”
>
> This issue repeated itself for me twice a year and for those who fly less frequently maybe not as often. But the end result is that once your InReach is marked as invalid you will never show up again without admin intervention. Creating a new account does not fix the issue. I know of few other inreaches which were dropped permanently and I bet there are many more. I suggested to Pedja at the rime to remove this logic of marking devices as invalid when servers are down, but I guess this logic still exists and now there is no one to fix this. I would be happy to click a donate button if this will help sustaining and improving this valuable service.
>
> Bottom line, glideport is unreliable now.
>
> Sigh!
>
> Ramy

Ramy,

Appreciate your comments. SSA has been discussing the issue and we'll consider suggestions.

Frank Whiteley

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The new format is provided by Garmin on new inReach devices and they have been unwilling to assign the original format. Glideport would need to be modified to accept the new format to work for new purchasers of inReach devices.

[thermals1]

On Saturday, May 4, 2019 at 11:06:46 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> Glideport is refusing to verify my new Garmin Inreach map sharing address.. I am using the listed address obtained from the Garmin Inreach site. This address works on the SSA site. Anybody got any ideas?

After speaking with the designer/programmer, I believe he has just resolved the issue with Garmin devices. I recently purchased a new Garmin inReach Mini and was able to successfully register and use it last weekend with GlidePort...but only after he worked on the problem.
SW

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Someone is doing something thankfully. I used to be able to only see tracks in 3D and there was no planet Earth... just stars. Now planet Earth is back!

Thanks,

Bob 7U

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 11:16:53 AM UTC-4, thermals1 wrote:
> On Saturday, May 4, 2019 at 11:06:46 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> > Glideport is refusing to verify my new Garmin Inreach map sharing address. I am using the listed address obtained from the Garmin Inreach site. This address works on the SSA site. Anybody got any ideas?
>
> After speaking with the designer/programmer, I believe he has just resolved the issue with Garmin devices. I recently purchased a new Garmin inReach Mini and was able to successfully register and use it last weekend with GlidePort...but only after he worked on the problem.
> SW

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SW

Who did you speak with? Still receiving message that device fails to register for new inReach mini with new format of url supplied by Garmin. Thanks.

[[email protected]]

On Saturday, May 4, 2019 at 10:06:46 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> Glideport is refusing to verify my new Garmin Inreach map sharing address.. I am using the listed address obtained from the Garmin Inreach site. This address works on the SSA site. Anybody got any ideas?

Here is how to make a new URL to register your SPOT with glideport. It can be done with no help from the glideport admins.

share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=09zinCBIVfVFEcsbxqddrCIFbMlqMPx xx
where the example starting with 09z is replaced by your own XML link. This has to be a separate link with a different title than your shared page. Here is how to get your XML number:-
1) log in to findmespot.com
2)Maps
3)History mode
4)Manage (little lines with check marks icon)
5)Shared Views
6) Add shared view
7) Make a shared view with a different tile such as MYXMLFeed
8) Home
9) XML Feed
10) View Details on MYXMLFeed
11) The XML Feed ID should be displayed. Copy and paste it, append it to the text
share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=
and you are good to go.
Worked for me!!

Sometimes a SPOT will work for years with glideport, then sudenly stop working. This is because if glideport ever has a communication difficulty with SPOT, it automatically deletes that particular XML feed as a safety precaution. The fix is to make another XML feed on your SPOT account, then register this new feed on glideport. There is a way to test your XML feed, simply go to this URL:-
https://api.findmespot.com/spot-main-web/consumer/rest-api/2.0/public/feed/09zinCBIVfVFEcsbxqddrCIFbMlqMPxxx/message.json
with your own XML Feed ID. If you get an error message then there is something wrong with the feed, contact SPOT. If you get position fixes but glideport does not display your SPOT, then make a new XML feed and register the new feed with SPOT. Each new feed typically lasts several years, and you can delete obsolete ones on the SPOT site.

Duncan