Problem With Powerflarm Firmware Update?

[Dan Marotta]

Yesterday I updated my PF portable from version 6.60 to 6.67 and went
out for a short flight.Â* I found that Flarm targets were no longer
displayed on my ClearNav II display.Â* It still displayed ADS-B and PCAS
targets but no Flarm targets.Â* The PF portable still showed Flarm
targets.Â* Any ideas?
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Dan, 5J

[Tango Eight]

On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 11:59:16 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Yesterday I updated my PF portable from version 6.60 to 6.67 and went
> out for a short flight.Â* I found that Flarm targets were no longer
> displayed on my ClearNav II display.Â* It still displayed ADS-B and PCAS
> targets but no Flarm targets.Â* The PF portable still showed Flarm
> targets.Â* Any ideas?
> --
> Dan, 5J

6.67 works fine for me. Did you have a flarmcfg file on the USB? If you did, it got loaded... start there.

best,
Evan

[Dan Marotta]

Thanks, I'll check.Â* But what difference would that make since it's the
configuration I've always used?Â* Oh, and my PF portable is loaded by a
micro SD card.Â* Or are you referring to the USB stick that I used to
install the latest data.fln file?Â* Maybe I should roll back to my
previous flarmnet file.

On 6/10/2019 10:08 AM, Tango Eight wrote:
> On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 11:59:16 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Yesterday I updated my PF portable from version 6.60 to 6.67 and went
>> out for a short flight.Â* I found that Flarm targets were no longer
>> displayed on my ClearNav II display.Â* It still displayed ADS-B and PCAS
>> targets but no Flarm targets.Â* The PF portable still showed Flarm
>> targets.Â* Any ideas?
>> --
>> Dan, 5J
> 6.67 works fine for me. Did you have a flarmcfg file on the USB? If you did, it got loaded... start there.
>
> best,
> Evan

--
Dan, 5J

[Tango Eight]

Hi Dan,

If the cfg file is correct, then it isn't any issue. I mentioned this possibility because it's fairly common. Guys put the update on an old USB or SD card that happens to have an old (or someone else's) cfg file on it... and whammo.

If the problem arose immediately after you updated the flarmnet file, then I would wonder about that. I'm not aware of problems here, but "undoing the last action you took" is worth investigating.

On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 4:33:16 PM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Thanks, I'll check.Â* But what difference would that make since it's the
> configuration I've always used?Â* Oh, and my PF portable is loaded by a
> micro SD card.Â* Or are you referring to the USB stick that I used to
> install the latest data.fln file?Â* Maybe I should roll back to my
> previous flarmnet file.
>
> On 6/10/2019 10:08 AM, Tango Eight wrote:
> > On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 11:59:16 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> >> Yesterday I updated my PF portable from version 6.60 to 6.67 and went
> >> out for a short flight.Â* I found that Flarm targets were no longer
> >> displayed on my ClearNav II display.Â* It still displayed ADS-B and PCAS
> >> targets but no Flarm targets.Â* The PF portable still showed Flarm
> >> targets.Â* Any ideas?
> >> --
> >> Dan, 5J
> > 6.67 works fine for me. Did you have a flarmcfg file on the USB? If you did, it got loaded... start there.
> >
> > best,
> > Evan
>
> --
> Dan, 5J

[Dan Marotta]

Thanks Evan,

Next on my list is to replace the most recent flarmnet file with the
previous one.Â* Maybe the weather will improve tomorrow and I can try it out.

On 6/10/2019 2:50 PM, Tango Eight wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> If the cfg file is correct, then it isn't any issue. I mentioned this possibility because it's fairly common. Guys put the update on an old USB or SD card that happens to have an old (or someone else's) cfg file on it... and whammo.
>
> If the problem arose immediately after you updated the flarmnet file, then I would wonder about that. I'm not aware of problems here, but "undoing the last action you took" is worth investigating.
>
> On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 4:33:16 PM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Thanks, I'll check.Â* But what difference would that make since it's the
>> configuration I've always used?Â* Oh, and my PF portable is loaded by a
>> micro SD card.Â* Or are you referring to the USB stick that I used to
>> install the latest data.fln file?Â* Maybe I should roll back to my
>> previous flarmnet file.
>>
>> On 6/10/2019 10:08 AM, Tango Eight wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 11:59:16 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
>>>> Yesterday I updated my PF portable from version 6.60 to 6.67 and went
>>>> out for a short flight.Â* I found that Flarm targets were no longer
>>>> displayed on my ClearNav II display.Â* It still displayed ADS-B and PCAS
>>>> targets but no Flarm targets.Â* The PF portable still showed Flarm
>>>> targets.Â* Any ideas?
>>>> --
>>>> Dan, 5J
>>> 6.67 works fine for me. Did you have a flarmcfg file on the USB? If you did, it got loaded... start there.
>>>
>>> best,
>>> Evan
>> --
>> Dan, 5J
>
>

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Dan, 5J

[Ramy[_2_]]

Flarmnet has no impact other than showing the contest number instead of flarm ID. So is the issue that flarm Target was showing up but not recognizable, or not showing at all?

Ramy

[Richard Pfiffner[_2_]]

On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 6:16:19 PM UTC-7, Ramy wrote:
> Flarmnet has no impact other than showing the contest number instead of flarm ID. So is the issue that flarm Target was showing up but not recognizable, or not showing at all?
>
> Ramy

Dan,

Did you ever put the USB drive in an apple computer. Or did you download the firmware with and apple computer. Powerflarm does not work well with Apples. Some will say it works with an emulator. But almost all calls I get about firmware problems are related to customer trying to use an Apple computer for USB stick that has been used in an apples computer.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Dan Marotta]

Ramy,

Flarm targets appear on the PowerFlarm portable display but not on the
ClearNav II display or my wife's Streak/XCSoar.Â* ADS-B and PCAS
targets/alerts appear on the CN II, but Flarm targets do not.

Richard,

My USB sticks have never seen an Apple product.

Evan,

My upgrade process is to have the CN II upgrade files/structure on the
USB stick that I use for my CNvXC and my CNvXC upgrade files are loaded
on my CN II stick.Â* That way I don't have to run back and forth to the
computer to move/remove files.Â* I've done it this way for a long time
without problems.Â* The problem only appeared with the PowerFlarm 6.67
update and the new Flarmnet data.fln file which I installed at the same
time.Â* I think the easiest thing I can do is roll back the PF portable
to 6.60 and see what happens...

On 6/11/2019 7:59 AM, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
> On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 6:16:19 PM UTC-7, Ramy wrote:
>> Flarmnet has no impact other than showing the contest number instead of flarm ID. So is the issue that flarm Target was showing up but not recognizable, or not showing at all?
>>
>> Ramy
> Dan,
>
> Did you ever put the USB drive in an apple computer. Or did you download the firmware with and apple computer. Powerflarm does not work well with Apples. Some will say it works with an emulator. But almost all calls I get about firmware problems are related to customer trying to use an Apple computer for USB stick that has been used in an apples computer.
>
> Richard
> www.craggyaero.com

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Dan, 5J

[Tango Eight]

Flarmnet has published bogus files before. I have d/l'ed files that just plain did not work in various displays.

So roll back the flarmnet data file too. Bogus file may have exposed a bug in CN2 (pure speculation on my part).

Evan





On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 10:48:12 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
> Ramy,
>
> Flarm targets appear on the PowerFlarm portable display but not on the
> ClearNav II display or my wife's Streak/XCSoar.Â* ADS-B and PCAS
> targets/alerts appear on the CN II, but Flarm targets do not.
>
> Richard,
>
> My USB sticks have never seen an Apple product.
>
> Evan,
>
> My upgrade process is to have the CN II upgrade files/structure on the
> USB stick that I use for my CNvXC and my CNvXC upgrade files are loaded
> on my CN II stick.Â* That way I don't have to run back and forth to the
> computer to move/remove files.Â* I've done it this way for a long time
> without problems.Â* The problem only appeared with the PowerFlarm 6.67
> update and the new Flarmnet data.fln file which I installed at the same
> time.Â* I think the easiest thing I can do is roll back the PF portable
> to 6.60 and see what happens...
>
> On 6/11/2019 7:59 AM, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
> > On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 6:16:19 PM UTC-7, Ramy wrote:
> >> Flarmnet has no impact other than showing the contest number instead of flarm ID. So is the issue that flarm Target was showing up but not recognizable, or not showing at all?
> >>
> >> Ramy
> > Dan,
> >
> > Did you ever put the USB drive in an apple computer. Or did you download the firmware with and apple computer. Powerflarm does not work well with Apples. Some will say it works with an emulator. But almost all calls I get about firmware problems are related to customer trying to use an Apple computer for USB stick that has been used in an apples computer.
> >
> > Richard
> > www.craggyaero.com
>
> --
> Dan, 5J

[Dan Marotta]

Will do.

On 6/11/2019 9:06 AM, Tango Eight wrote:
> Flarmnet has published bogus files before. I have d/l'ed files that just plain did not work in various displays.
>
> So roll back the flarmnet data file too. Bogus file may have exposed a bug in CN2 (pure speculation on my part).
>
> Evan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 11, 2019 at 10:48:12 AM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
>> Ramy,
>>
>> Flarm targets appear on the PowerFlarm portable display but not on the
>> ClearNav II display or my wife's Streak/XCSoar.Â* ADS-B and PCAS
>> targets/alerts appear on the CN II, but Flarm targets do not.
>>
>> Richard,
>>
>> My USB sticks have never seen an Apple product.
>>
>> Evan,
>>
>> My upgrade process is to have the CN II upgrade files/structure on the
>> USB stick that I use for my CNvXC and my CNvXC upgrade files are loaded
>> on my CN II stick.Â* That way I don't have to run back and forth to the
>> computer to move/remove files.Â* I've done it this way for a long time
>> without problems.Â* The problem only appeared with the PowerFlarm 6.67
>> update and the new Flarmnet data.fln file which I installed at the same
>> time.Â* I think the easiest thing I can do is roll back the PF portable
>> to 6.60 and see what happens...
>>
>> On 6/11/2019 7:59 AM, Richard Pfiffner wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 10, 2019 at 6:16:19 PM UTC-7, Ramy wrote:
>>>> Flarmnet has no impact other than showing the contest number instead of flarm ID. So is the issue that flarm Target was showing up but not recognizable, or not showing at all?
>>>>
>>>> Ramy
>>> Dan,
>>>
>>> Did you ever put the USB drive in an apple computer. Or did you download the firmware with and apple computer. Powerflarm does not work well with Apples. Some will say it works with an emulator. But almost all calls I get about firmware problems are related to customer trying to use an Apple computer for USB stick that has been used in an apples computer.
>>>
>>> Richard
>>> www.craggyaero.com
>> --
>> Dan, 5J

--
Dan, 5J

[Ramy[_2_]]

Also make sure you download the correct format of flarmnet for your flight computer.

Ramy

[Dan Marotta]

From the Flarmnet download page:


Â* Downloads

/Â*Â*Â* last successful data generation at: 2019-06-12 22:15:09Z/


I've downloaded that one.Â* Maybe it'll work.


On 6/12/2019 3:12 PM, Ramy wrote:
> Also make sure you download the correct format of flarmnet for your flight computer.
>
> Ramy

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Dan, 5J