Today is not the day

[Jonathan St. Cloud]

Well worth the 8 minutes to watch and consider.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMT-MhYd7Z4&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3K1gYFQt54aEft604HNVrML3QgI5mVrpitQ5Now lUIrWMiQ9bbZ1H_MPY

[Martin Gregorie[_6_]]

On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 08:14:06 -0700, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:

> Well worth the 8 minutes to watch and consider.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMT-
MhYd7Z4&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3K1gYFQt54aEft604HNVrML3QgI5mVrpitQ5Now lUIrWMiQ9bbZ1H_MPY

Thanks for posting. Watching that and thinking about it is time well
spent.


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

[ripacheco1967]

Very nice... reminds me of the safety tapes I used to watch when I was working on my private (single engine)

[JS[_5_]]

On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 8:47:35 AM UTC-7, ripacheco1967 wrote:
> Very nice... reminds me of the safety tapes I used to watch when I was working on my private (single engine)

Nice one, Brian.
Jim

[Tango Eight]

On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 11:14:09 AM UTC-4, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
> Well worth the 8 minutes to watch and consider.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMT-MhYd7Z4&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3K1gYFQt54aEft604HNVrML3QgI5mVrpitQ5Now lUIrWMiQ9bbZ1H_MPY



This presentation would be more powerful if one inverted the basic premise to "Gliding is inherently dangerous" (easy to defend citing the energy involved, minimal protections, etc.), followed by "it's your job as PIC to mitigate the hazards and make good decisions that lead to safe outcomes."

I'm more careful with things I regard as dangerous than things I regard as safe. Aren't you?

best,
Evan Ludeman

[[email protected]]

On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 9:14:09 AM UTC-6, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
> Well worth the 8 minutes to watch and consider.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMT-MhYd7Z4&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3K1gYFQt54aEft604HNVrML3QgI5mVrpitQ5Now lUIrWMiQ9bbZ1H_MPY

Excellent talk about keeping safe - thanks for sending -

[George Haeh]

Margins are good,whether they be in airspeed, altitude, distance to landable area...

But remember the usual margin prescription is predicated on reasonably behaved air.

Vortices, downbursts, frontal passages etc. can blow past the usual margins in the blink of an eye.

Downwind of abrupt terrain, a vortex can produce a windshear of twice the wind aloft.

[Jonathan St. Cloud]

On Thursday, June 13, 2019 at 5:52:17 PM UTC-7, George Haeh wrote:
> Margins are good,whether they be in airspeed, altitude, distance to landable area...
>
> But remember the usual margin prescription is predicated on reasonably behaved air.
>
> Vortices, downbursts, frontal passages etc. can blow past the usual margins in the blink of an eye.
>
> Downwind of abrupt terrain, a vortex can produce a windshear of twice the wind aloft.

Yeah, remember Peter Masak! An airfoil can stall at any speed any attitude. A gusts can stall you when you think your speeds are OK. As a mountain flyer I do thermal close to terrain but I don't talk on phone, send txt messages or play with crap in cockpit. I have a dog at home that needs me!

[krasw]

Weather does not kill pilots, bad judgement does.

[Peter Purdie[_3_]]

While I agree with everything Brian said, the real issue is developing
and using the judgement to know when the margin of safety is
unacceptable. Even very experienced pilots can be lulled into the "Last
time I did this, I got away with it, no problem" mentality.

At 09:46 15 June 2019, krasw wrote:
>Weather does not kill pilots, bad judgement does.
>

[Ramy[_2_]]

The only way to eliminate weather as a risk factor is to fly sled rides in stable winter days.
Good soaring weather come with some risk.

Ramy

[Tango Whisky]

Flying in mountains, the margins are not the same as over flat land. If you don't adapt them accordingly, you don't have any business to be there.

[[email protected]]

On Sunday, June 16, 2019 at 6:53:34 AM UTC-5, Tango Whisky wrote:
> Flying in mountains, the margins are not the same as over flat land. If you don't adapt them accordingly, you don't have any business to be there.

Great vid, glad I watched it. We're all obligated to our loved ones to manage risk well. Thanks for sharing!