Re: looking for mpeg of deadstick landing

[Brad Zeigler]

"Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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> "Tim Gilbert" > wrote in
> :
>
>> I'm putting together a presentation on "aviation enlightenment" that our
>> pilots group will present to home owner associations near our airport.
>> I'd like to find a mpeg of someone doing a deadstick landing to help
>> debunk the myth that airplanes fall out of the sky if the engine quits.
>> Anybody have one they can share?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
>
> You might remind them that all of the space
> shuttle landings are deadstick.
>

Especially the last one. Bad example.

[Mitchell Holman]

"Brad Zeigler" > wrote in news:bdmdnYqDsfTJ947fRVn-
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>
> "Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Tim Gilbert" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> I'm putting together a presentation on "aviation enlightenment" that
our
>>> pilots group will present to home owner associations near our airport.
>>> I'd like to find a mpeg of someone doing a deadstick landing to help
>>> debunk the myth that airplanes fall out of the sky if the engine quits.
>>> Anybody have one they can share?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You might remind them that all of the space
>> shuttle landings are deadstick.
>>
>
> Especially the last one. Bad example.
>
>
>

That was re-entry, not landing. All of the
space shuttle landings were without a hitch.

[Brad Zeigler]

"Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
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> "Brad Zeigler" > wrote in news:bdmdnYqDsfTJ947fRVn-
> :
>
>>
>> "Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "Tim Gilbert" > wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>> I'm putting together a presentation on "aviation enlightenment" that
> our
>>>> pilots group will present to home owner associations near our airport.
>>>> I'd like to find a mpeg of someone doing a deadstick landing to help
>>>> debunk the myth that airplanes fall out of the sky if the engine quits.
>>>> Anybody have one they can share?
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You might remind them that all of the space
>>> shuttle landings are deadstick.
>>>
>>
>> Especially the last one. Bad example.
>>
>>
>>
>
> That was re-entry, not landing. All of the
> space shuttle landings were without a hitch.
>

I know that and you know that, but frightened home owners don't really know
the difference between reentry and landing. As far as they can tell,
sometimes planes fall out of the sky into little (and not so little) pieces.
Otherwise I'd say that the shuttle would be a good example.

Perhaps a Bob Hoover video making a precision deadstick landing in a shrike
would be suitable.

[Stefan]

Brad Zeigler wrote:

>>> I'd like to find a mpeg of someone doing a deadstick landing to help
>>> debunk the myth that airplanes fall out of the sky if the engine quits.

All gliders are usually landed "dead stick". You'll find a lot of glider
videos at

http://www.alpenstreckenflug.de/texte/segelflugvideos.htm

BTW, you might remember them that the world distance record in a glider
is actually 3000,8 km.

Stefan

[gatt]

"Brad Zeigler" > wrote in message
news:Ksydnfapgb8z747fRVn-

> Perhaps a Bob Hoover video making a precision deadstick landing in a
shrike
> would be suitable.

Suitable or not, let's see it! :>

[PVK]

Mitchell, you were/are a regular contributor to
alt.binaries.pictures.aviation

Do you know what's happened to that newgroup ? BT Internet seems to have
lost it ( British Telecom ).

Thanks for any info you can give us.

Paul

[Glenn Jacobs]

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> Mitchell, you were/are a regular contributor to
> alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
>
> Do you know what's happened to that newgroup ? BT Internet seems to have
> lost it ( British Telecom ).
>
> Thanks for any info you can give us.
>
> Paul

My ISP, Starband, still has it and it is still updated, I would suggest you
contact your ISP or whatever organization handles your news groups and ask
them to put it back on.

Jake

[Maule Driver]

Stefan wrote:
>>>> I'd like to find a mpeg of someone doing a deadstick landing to help
>>>> debunk the myth that airplanes fall out of the sky if the engine quits.

>
> All gliders are usually landed "dead stick".
but there's no "stick"
>
> BTW, you might remember them that the world distance record in a glider
> is actually 3000,8 km.
>
yeah, but they still landed silently. Glider landings aren't news....
glider touch and go's are. Wish I had some MPEGs of that!

[RST Engineering]

No they aren't. My CFIG instructor was an absolute genius in the aircraft.
After all the activity died down late on a Sunday night, he'd take me up for
one last flight. We'd come SCREAMING down final near to redline, touch it,
pull up, do a reversement, touch it again, pull up, do a reversement and
land.

I've never had the intestinal fortitude to show a student more than one,
much less two.

Jim


> yeah, but they still landed silently. Glider landings aren't news....
> glider touch and go's are. Wish I had some MPEGs of that!

[Mitchell Holman]

"PVK" > wrote in news:cv062u$aec$1
@titan.btinternet.com:

>
> Mitchell, you were/are a regular contributor to
> alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
>
> Do you know what's happened to that newgroup ? BT Internet seems to have
> lost it ( British Telecom ).
>
> Thanks for any info you can give us.


A lot of ISP's are "trimming" or
outsourcing entirely their Usenet
services. I was forced to switch to
a pay service (giganews) which still
has it.

I agree with your intention - it's about
the best binaries group there is. Solid
content, no spam, no flamefests. I post to
it regularly.

[Ron C]

"PVK" > wrote in message
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>
> Mitchell, you were/are a regular contributor to
> alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
>
> Do you know what's happened to that newgroup ? BT Internet seems to have
> lost it ( British Telecom ).
>
> Thanks for any info you can give us.
>
> Paul
>

You may want to look at www.teranews.com , they carry a.b.p.aviation as well
as a.b.multimedia.aviation and, of course, thousands of other groups.
They offer a "free" account (free but for a one-time US$3.95 setup fee)
which allows 50mb of downloads per day, or greater amounts per day for a
monthly fee depending on how much one wishes to pay. For example, at $7.95
per month I have a 250mb daily limit. I won't go into all the options, that
information is available on the web site, but I've been a subscriber for
nearly three years and have no complaint with the service.

~Ron

[Maule Driver]

You got me there. I've only seen one done :-)

South Florida conditions allow one to thermal pretty easily after a T&G.
They like doing ridge top T&Gs at Harris Hill in Elmira NY.

I'm curious, what site did you see this at? UK?

I've never had the fortitude to touch the wheel. One day's genius is
tomorrow's ?


RST Engineering wrote:
> No they aren't. My CFIG instructor was an absolute genius in the aircraft.
> After all the activity died down late on a Sunday night, he'd take me up for
> one last flight. We'd come SCREAMING down final near to redline, touch it,
> pull up, do a reversement, touch it again, pull up, do a reversement and
> land.
>
> I've never had the intestinal fortitude to show a student more than one,
> much less two.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>>yeah, but they still landed silently. Glider landings aren't news....
>>glider touch and go's are. Wish I had some MPEGs of that!
>
>
>

[PVK]

Mitchell, thanks for the info. Maybe we need to keep badgering BT to bring
it back

Ron, thanks very much for that. I'll check out Teranews later, it seems
pretty good value.

Regards,

Paul