Sad Day

[K m]

https://www.ksl.com/article/46585850/2-dead-after-glider-plane-goes-down-in-sanpete-county
Heartfelt Condolences.

[[email protected]]

It continues.

[Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)]

Another Arkus M. Yes, sad day.

[ripacheco1967]

The article says people found them... how can this be? Aren’t they in radio contact during the contest? Probably a misunderstanding by the people that posted the news article.

[Paul Remde]

I'm very sorry to hear about the accident.

I am worried about friends and look forward to hearing who was in the Arcus M.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 6:41:53 AM UTC-5, K m wrote:
> https://www.ksl.com/article/46585850/2-dead-after-glider-plane-goes-down-in-sanpete-county
> Heartfelt Condolences.

[K m]

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 7:05:34 AM UTC-6, ripacheco1967 wrote:
> The article says people found them... how can this be? Aren’t they in radio contact during the contest? Probably a misunderstanding by the people that posted the news article.

This is a bit odd because it was close to the Nephi Airport. The SPOT shows the crash site. The article states it was found just after 5pm but when I left the airport after 7 no information had been passed to the event (Yet).

[Dan Marotta]

It looks like MM on the tail.Â* Does anyone know who that was?

On 7/2/2019 7:30 AM, K m wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 7:05:34 AM UTC-6, ripacheco1967 wrote:
>> The article says people found them... how can this be? Aren’t they in radio contact during the contest? Probably a misunderstanding by the people that posted the news article.
> This is a bit odd because it was close to the Nephi Airport. The SPOT shows the crash site. The article states it was found just after 5pm but when I left the airport after 7 no information had been passed to the event (Yet).

--
Dan, 5J

[Paul Agnew]

I just joined the local club (Utah Soaring Assoc.) and got checked out on Sunday. I sat in on the pilot briefing yesterday and the weather was indicating a solid day for soaring.

Ironically, the daily safety brief was about proper parachute donning technique and bailing out. It doesn't look like they had the option.

Deepest condolences to their families.

Paul A.

[K m]

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 8:10:09 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> It looks like MM on the tail.Â* Does anyone know who that was?

> Dan, 5J

John Weber and Tom Bjork

[Tom BravoMike]

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 5:30:41 PM UTC+2, K m wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 8:10:09 AM UTC-6, Dan Marotta wrote:
> > It looks like MM on the tail.Â* Does anyone know who that was?
>
> > Dan, 5J
>
> John Weber and Tom Bjork

Checking if I may have met the pilots in person, I have just found this video from 2 years ago:

https://youtu.be/fZSa5nwX3dw

[Richard DalCanto]

My condolences to their families. I was on the grid directly in front of that glider on Friday.
I'm assuming they got low and couldn't make it to a landable area. I wonder if they pushed the limits because they were counting on a sustainer? Was the engine extended? What is the L/D on the Arcus with the engine extended but not running?

Rick

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On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 3:44:13 PM UTC-4, Richard DalCanto wrote:
> My condolences to their families. I was on the grid directly in front of that glider on Friday.
> I'm assuming they got low and couldn't make it to a landable area. I wonder if they pushed the limits because they were counting on a sustainer? Was the engine extended? What is the L/D on the Arcus with the engine extended but not running?
>
> Rick

One photo on above site shows engine bay appearing closed and much lower terrain in the background.
Sad accident and two well liked pilots lost.
FWIW
UH

[Paul Agnew]

Look closer at the orientation of the tail and tailwheel. Is the ship actually inverted? The photo resolution isn't very good when you zoom in.

PA

[Paul Agnew]

Belay that. I found a higher resolution picture and the fuselage is clearly upright. The motor is stowed.

PA

[Andy Blackburn[_3_]]

I am saddened beyond words.

Two passionate and experienced pilots gone too soon. John was a very dear friend. My deepest, heartfelt condolences to everyone who knew either of these fine men and is hurting now. Sympathies also to the participants and organizers at Nephi who I know will be taking this very hard.

Andy Blackburn
9B

[George Haeh]

Wind and abrupt terrain can get together to produce nasty windshears. I was extremely lucky to survive a near 30 kt windshear on final downwind of a 50 ft ridge 250' above it. Because my recorder showed TAS and groundspeed at one second intervals,I was able to identify a vortex and downburst.

Oudies have a recovery buffer that has been used in accident analysis. Other flight computers may have similar data available for analysis.

I'm happy to share my methodology on request.

[Bruce Hoult]

On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 at 7:26:10 PM UTC-7, George Haeh wrote:
> Wind and abrupt terrain can get together to produce nasty windshears. I was extremely lucky to survive a near 30 kt windshear on final downwind of a 50 ft ridge 250' above it. Because my recorder showed TAS and groundspeed at one second intervals,I was able to identify a vortex and downburst.
>
> Oudies have a recovery buffer that has been used in accident analysis. Other flight computers may have similar data available for analysis.
>
> I'm happy to share my methodology on request.

Fortunately on days like that you can fly final approach at 70 to 80 knots with absolutely no problem getting it down and stopped in maybe even less distance than on a dead calm day.