Re: Oshkosh questions

[Kyle Boatright]

"Jimmy B." > wrote in message
.net...
> I'm thinking of making my first trip to Oshkosh this year.
>
> How far in advance do I have to plan this? For example, how quickly do
> the local hotels fill up? (Haven't made up my mind if I will camp or do
> the hotel thing.)

Hotels? The good ones (i.e. nearby and inexpensive) are probably pretty
full. Openings will come up as the date approaches, but you'll need to keep
an eye out to find one. Also, consider the dorms at the local college.
Personally, I like to camp, but I'm a masochist.
>
> Do I need a reservation to park the airplane? If so, how quickly do they
> fill up?

You can't get reservations. I don't think they have filled up the field in
the last several years. A good strategy is to time your arrival for mid
morning one day towards the middle or end of the show. Lots of people are
headed home by then, so you can get a good parking place. Of course, there
is more to see at the beginning of the event. Some folks can't take a whole
week to display their whizbang 500...

> Not being someone who needs to see everything, how many days should I plan
> on to get the true experience?

If you want to see the ultralights, the EAA Museum, a couple of airshows,
all the flightlines from homebuilt, to helicopter, to antique, to warbird,
to ultralight, you'll need 3 days, and you'll be walking yourself to death.
If you want to attend any seminars or take a serious look inside the display
buildings, add more time. That said, I like to plan 5 day trips to Osh.
One day to get there (before noon), one to get home, and 3 on the field. I
get overwhelmed with more than 3 days.

>
> I'm sure I'll have more questions to follow, so please bear with me and
> thank you for your useful inputs.

[Montblack]

"Jimmy B."
> I'm thinking of making my first trip to Oshkosh this year.


Most of the info you're looking for is here.
http://www.airventure.org/2005/planning/where_to_stay.html

Dorms in town fill up early - free bus takes you the few miles over to the
airport. Last year about 800 of the 2,200 UW-OSH dorms were under
renovation. $44 per night gives you 2 beds. Bring a $15 pedestal fan!!

4 days is fine. Then 4 days the next year and 4 days the next year ...this
will be my 3rd year.
(I have yet to see the Museum, the old airfield, or spend enough time at the
Ultralight pasture.

Oshkosh will pop up here a couple of more times between now and July <g>.
Keep posting and asking.


Montblack

[Paul]

No more than 3 days for the first time. You will be exausted !

Paul

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"Jimmy B." > a écrit dans le message de news:
. ..
> I'm thinking of making my first trip to Oshkosh this year.
>
> How far in advance do I have to plan this? For example, how quickly do
> the local hotels fill up? (Haven't made up my mind if I will camp or do
> the hotel thing.)
>
> Do I need a reservation to park the airplane? If so, how quickly do they
> fill up?
>
> Not being someone who needs to see everything, how many days should I plan
> on to get the true experience?
>
> I'm sure I'll have more questions to follow, so please bear with me and
> thank you for your useful inputs.

[Paul]

Plan no more than 3 full days for the first time. You will be exausted !!

Paul

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"Jimmy B." > a écrit dans le message de news:
. ..
> I'm thinking of making my first trip to Oshkosh this year.
>
> How far in advance do I have to plan this? For example, how quickly do
> the local hotels fill up? (Haven't made up my mind if I will camp or do
> the hotel thing.)
>
> Do I need a reservation to park the airplane? If so, how quickly do they
> fill up?
>
> Not being someone who needs to see everything, how many days should I plan
> on to get the true experience?
>
> I'm sure I'll have more questions to follow, so please bear with me and
> thank you for your useful inputs.

[TaxSrv]

> I'm thinking of making my first trip to Oshkosh this year.
>
> > How far in advance do I have to plan this? For example, how
quickly do
> > the local hotels fill up? (Haven't made up my mind if I will camp
or do
> > the hotel thing.)
>

Most times I've flown in to OSH in old 15-Lima, and nothing beats
that. But driving there, you'll find that motel reservations (and
price) are no biggie, even on an ad hoc decision to motor there if you
stay far enough out. I've thus stayed at motels near Madison or
Milwaukee, and the commute is fairly easy. Last automobile trip I
stayed in Sheboygan, at a brand new motel of moderate price. It's
also a pretty, eclectic little town with some nice restaurants.
Important is arguably staying overnight someplace that's well remote
of what's happening at OSH. Attitude adjustment in an odd way, pure
relaxation if you will, til' the next morning's commute to OSH to
repeat the cycle of what you experience at Airventure.

Fred F.

[Dave Stadt]

"Jimmy B." > wrote in message
.net...
> I'm thinking of making my first trip to Oshkosh this year.
>
> How far in advance do I have to plan this? For example, how quickly do
> the local hotels fill up? (Haven't made up my mind if I will camp or do
> the hotel thing.)

Hotels in Oshkosh, Appleton and Fond du Loc are booked now. You will need
to go quite a ways further out to get something. There are last minute
cancellations and a place on the grounds that will find you a place to stay
during OSH although you might have to move every night.

[Montblack]

("Dave Stadt" wrote)
> Hotels in Oshkosh, Appleton and Fond du Loc are booked now. You will need
> to go quite a ways further out to get something. There are last minute
> cancellations and a place on the grounds that will find you a place to
> stay
> during OSH although you might have to move every night.


The dorm was not a bad option IMHO. Mine had a microwave and a fridge.

You do have to prop the door open a wee bit at night for some circulation,
even with the fan running - helps get the room cooled down quicker.


Montblack

[RST Engineering]

Jack, you are coming from Sacramento, aren't you? Wanna convoy this year?
The blueonblue182 is leaving on Saturday to hit Jay's pool party in Iowa
City on Sunday into Oshkosh on Monday.

Leaving Saturday after the EAA meeting and election for a straight flight
home -- usually East Undershirt Nebraska the first day and home on Sunday.

BTW, that link is www.airventure.com Note the typo?

Jim



"Jack Allison" > wrote in message
k.net...
>
> Random thoughts and, hopefully, not stuff already answered...
>
> - Visit www.ariventure.org...a lot. Tons of great info. there.

[Ron Natalie]

Paul wrote:
> Plan no more than 3 full days for the first time. You will be exausted !!

I disagree...I only spent 3 days my first time and was ready for more
but my ride was leaving...

[Jon Woellhaf]

Isn't it www.airventure.org?

"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
> Jack, you are coming from Sacramento, aren't you? Wanna convoy this year?
> The blueonblue182 is leaving on Saturday to hit Jay's pool party in Iowa
> City on Sunday into Oshkosh on Monday.
>
> Leaving Saturday after the EAA meeting and election for a straight flight
> home -- usually East Undershirt Nebraska the first day and home on Sunday.
>
> BTW, that link is www.airventure.com Note the typo?
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> "Jack Allison" > wrote in message
> k.net...
>>
>> Random thoughts and, hopefully, not stuff already answered...
>>
>> - Visit www.ariventure.org...a lot. Tons of great info. there.
>
>

[RST Engineering]

Yes, of course. Duhh. My dumb.

Jim

"Jon Woellhaf" > wrote in message
...
> Isn't it www.airventure.org?

[Morgans]

"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
...
> Paul wrote:
> > Plan no more than 3 full days for the first time. You will be exausted
!!
>
> I disagree...I only spent 3 days my first time and was ready for more
> but my ride was leaving...

I thought I was the only one....

I go for 6 days, and have always gone away wishing I had 3 or 4 more days.
Yes, you get tired, but it is a "good" tired! <g>

For my money, you can't beat camping on the field. Showers suck, but if you
bring enough food and a way to keep stuff cold, you can't beat getting up
and being there, and the ability to go to camp to eat and rest, and party,
if you want.
--
Jim in NC

[John T]

Jim, remember Oshkosh starts on Monday this year.

Jay, how is this gonna affect your pool party?

John

[Jay Honeck]

> Jim, remember Oshkosh starts on Monday this year.
>
> Jay, how is this gonna affect your pool party?

Our fly-in pool party will be on Saturday (rather than Sunday) this year, to
allow everyone to arrive in OSH one day early, as prescribed by both
tradition and common sense.

The rec.aviation party at our campsite will still be on Wednesday though,
methinks. Or does that interfere with your other parties, Jim? Montblack?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Morgans]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote

> The rec.aviation party at our campsite will still be on Wednesday though,
> methinks. Or does that interfere with your other parties, Jim?
Montblack?
> --
> Jay Honeck

Works for me, I think. I usually have problems trying to plan my day
tomorrow, so planning a day in July?..... <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Montblack]

("Morgans" wrote)
> Works for me, I think. I usually have problems trying to plan my day
> tomorrow, so planning a day in July?..... <g>


Jim, are you bringing the monster grill again? Like to see that puppy fired
up this year!! Depending what The Group wants - we'll keep some things the
same and change other things.

Pre-cooked brats is one addition.
Watermelon: Too much darn work, not enough interest. Plus they weren't very
good last year.

No big pickle jar!
Cheese didn't go over very well (sorry Wisconsin)
Maybe some small steaks this year. What the Heck, it's vacation.

July is just around the corner. Who am I kidding, we're going to get 5-7
inches of snow tonight!!


Montblack

[Jay Honeck]

> Jim, are you bringing the monster grill again? Like to see that puppy
> fired up this year!! Depending what The Group wants - we'll keep some
> things the same and change other things.

Man, I'd like to see that danged thing in action, too. All I caught was a
glimpse of it last year, as Jim pulled away with that Volkswagen-sized
trailer/grill in tow... (Not that we had a shortage of grills, mind you...)

> Pre-cooked brats is one addition.

Ya, hey, one time dere. Brats+Wisconsin=Good eatin'...

> Watermelon: Too much darn work, not enough interest. Plus they weren't
> very good last year.

Agreed. Anything that can even remotely be construed as "healthy" probably
has no place at OSH, anyway...

> Cheese didn't go over very well (sorry Wisconsin)

What? Says who? I really liked the cheese, but there was so danged much
food (thanks to the feast you brought) who could eat cheese, too? :-)

> Maybe some small steaks this year. What the Heck, it's vacation.

Steaks? Did someone say "steaks"? I'm always up for steaks, although
getting them cooked to everyone's liking is always a challenge. Jim, does
that monster grill have a "steak setting"??

> July is just around the corner. Who am I kidding, we're going to get 5-7
> inches of snow tonight!!

Whew! We are luckily (supposedly -- the night is still young) on the "rain"
side of this storm. We'll see...

Think Spring! OSH is only ~100 days away!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Morgans]

"Montblack" > wrote
>
> Jim, are you bringing the monster grill again? Like to see that puppy
fired
> up this year!! Depending what The Group wants - we'll keep some things the
> same and change other things.
>
> Pre-cooked brats is one addition.
> Watermelon: Too much darn work, not enough interest. Plus they weren't
very
> good last year.
>
> No big pickle jar!
> Cheese didn't go over very well (sorry Wisconsin)
> Maybe some small steaks this year. What the Heck, it's vacation.
>
> July is just around the corner. Who am I kidding, we're going to get 5-7
> inches of snow tonight!!
>
>
> Montblack

Planning on bringing the MOAG! (mother of all grills) I'll make *Darn Sure*
there is no confusion this year.

Might I make a suggestion of cooking a chunk of pig? Real life NC pig
pickin' that we are famous for! Either picked, or shredded, by electric
shredder. With vinegar (Eastern NC) or barbeque (Western NC), or even just
plain, picked off, falling off the bone! Mmmmm, gooo-ooood!

What say ye all? ;-)

If not that, it cooks anything well, and room for lots of it. (Around 18
square feet)
--
Jim in NC

[Jay Honeck]

> Might I make a suggestion of cooking a chunk of pig? Real life NC pig
> pickin' that we are famous for! Either picked, or shredded, by electric
> shredder. With vinegar (Eastern NC) or barbeque (Western NC), or even just
> plain, picked off, falling off the bone! Mmmmm, gooo-ooood!
>
> What say ye all? ;-)

Oh, man, Jim -- now you're TALKING!

However, I can see some problems. Cooking a pig, delectable though it may
be, takes many hours. Trucking big grills into the North 40 is already a
marginally "legal" thing to do at OSH -- do you really think we can leave
that big ol' thing running all day, unattended, in the middle of 12,000
parked airplanes?

And, assuming not, who is going to volunteer to travel all the way to OSH,
only to spend a day baby-sitting a pig on a spit?

Perhaps brats and steaks -- although clearly inferior -- is the better way
to go? Or is there a quicker way to grill a pig?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Morgans]

> > Might I make a suggestion of cooking a chunk of pig? Real life NC pig
> > pickin' that we are famous for! Either picked, or shredded, by electric
> > shredder. With vinegar (Eastern NC) or barbeque (Western NC), or even
just
> > plain, picked off, falling off the bone! Mmmmm, gooo-ooood!
> >
> > What say ye all? ;-)
>
> Oh, man, Jim -- now you're TALKING!
>
> However, I can see some problems. Cooking a pig, delectable though it may
> be, takes many hours. Trucking big grills into the North 40 is already a
> marginally "legal" thing to do at OSH -- do you really think we can leave
> that big ol' thing running all day, unattended, in the middle of 12,000
> parked airplanes?
>
> And, assuming not, who is going to volunteer to travel all the way to OSH,
> only to spend a day baby-sitting a pig on a spit?
>
> Perhaps brats and steaks -- although clearly inferior -- is the better way
> to go? Or is there a quicker way to grill a pig?
> --
> Jay Honeck

Nope, no way to rush a pig!. As far as the babysitting the cooking goes, I
have a plan.

Our Aviation Explorer posts all take a day doing KP, which is cooking and
cleaning up for all of the camp, which is around 100 plus. We have talked
about doing pig for the whole base. All we have to do is take Wednesday for
our cooking day. I only have to be around for one meal; (by splitting up
the meals among our members) the others can help do the all day cooking,
sitting legally inside the Explorer compound.

We would also have an out for bringing the grill in, so if it can't come in,
we can just carry the hog in via van, and eat it out of the pan, instead of
out of the pan on the grill.

It is pretty easy to cook, anyway, and once the temperature stabilizes, you
just let it do it's thing!
--
Jim in NC

[RST Engineering]

No, Gail and I can't spend ten days away from the business, and I have this
little EAA meeting/election on Saturday morning that I have to attend.

We aren't getting to the gig until Wednesday, and aren't planning on a dorm
party this year, so Wednesday night will be just fine. We'll miss your pool
party, but Gail wants to stop by your place on the way home, Saturday night
if the weather gods smile on us. Got an open room?

Jim


"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:RhURd.28444$4q6.18664@attbi_s01...
>> Jim, remember Oshkosh starts on Monday this year.
>>
>> Jay, how is this gonna affect your pool party?
>
> Our fly-in pool party will be on Saturday (rather than Sunday) this year,
> to allow everyone to arrive in OSH one day early, as prescribed by both
> tradition and common sense.
>
> The rec.aviation party at our campsite will still be on Wednesday though,
> methinks. Or does that interfere with your other parties, Jim?
> Montblack?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

[Blanche Cohen]

The other option is to find a BBQ company in the area and order
the pig. They'll deliver it (with all the fixins) at the time
and location you request. No one needs to babysit. No one needs
to cook.

The only requirements are:
1) someone to act as coordinator for dinner reservations and take the money
IN ADVANCE so no one gets stuck for the bill
2) someone to take care of the logistics of finding the BBQ company,
making the order
3) someone to either go fetch to goodies or be someplace where the
company can deliver

It's not difficult. Check out the Bo group last year at

www.b2osh.org/Reviews/review_2004.htm

[Jay Honeck]

> We aren't getting to the gig until Wednesday, and aren't planning on a
> dorm party this year, so Wednesday night will be just fine.

Wednesday it is, then!

> We'll miss your pool party, but Gail wants to stop by your place on the
> way home, Saturday night if the weather gods smile on us. Got an open
> room?

Oh, I'll bet we do. We FINALLY have live, on-line booking now, so you can
actually check availability LIVE at our website, www.AlexisParkInn.com

Don't book there, though. As I've told everyone 100 times, you'll ALWAYS
get a better deal talking to the hotel owner than you will at
"Travelocity"... Just give me a buzz, or drop me an email!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
"RST Engineering" > wrote in message
...
> No, Gail and I can't spend ten days away from the business, and I have
> this little EAA meeting/election on Saturday morning that I have to
> attend.
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> "Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
> news:RhURd.28444$4q6.18664@attbi_s01...
>>> Jim, remember Oshkosh starts on Monday this year.
>>>
>>> Jay, how is this gonna affect your pool party?
>>
>> Our fly-in pool party will be on Saturday (rather than Sunday) this year,
>> to allow everyone to arrive in OSH one day early, as prescribed by both
>> tradition and common sense.
>>
>> The rec.aviation party at our campsite will still be on Wednesday though,
>> methinks. Or does that interfere with your other parties, Jim?
>> Montblack?
>> --
>> Jay Honeck
>> Iowa City, IA
>> Pathfinder N56993
>> www.AlexisParkInn.com
>> "Your Aviation Destination"
>>
>
>

[Jay Honeck]

> The other option is to find a BBQ company in the area and order
> the pig. They'll deliver it (with all the fixins) at the time
> and location you request. No one needs to babysit. No one needs
> to cook.

Now Blanche, you're messing with the male instinct to kill and cook
dead animals. It's ultimately up to Jim and Montblack (who, after all,
are the only ones here who can haul grills into OSH), but I personally
prefer home cookin'!

> It's not difficult. Check out the Bo group last year at

You coming this year, Blanche?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[John T]

As a native Wisconsinite, I'd have to agree about the cheese...slices of
cheese on a warm day just don't seem appetitzing to me.
Other snack foods, crackers (ritz!), sausage slices, chips, etc are good
though.

[Morgans]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote


> Now Blanche, you're messing with the male instinct to kill and cook
> dead animals. It's ultimately up to Jim and Montblack (who, after all,
> are the only ones here who can haul grills into OSH), but I personally
> prefer home cookin'!

Amen, brother! I wanna know where my pig has been!

The goal is not the destination, but the journey to it.
--
Jim in NC

[Blanche Cohen]

Morgans > wrote:
>
>"Jay Honeck" > wrote
>
>> Now Blanche, you're messing with the male instinct to kill and cook
>> dead animals. It's ultimately up to Jim and Montblack (who, after all,
>> are the only ones here who can haul grills into OSH), but I personally
>> prefer home cookin'!
>
>Amen, brother! I wanna know where my pig has been!
>
>The goal is not the destination, but the journey to it.

At OSH, I'm more interested in when and where we're having dinner than
who's driving.

[Jay Honeck]

> At OSH, I'm more interested in when and where we're having dinner than
> who's driving.

Agreed. After walking all day in the (fill in the blank):

(a) Blazing sun
(b) Pouring rain
(c) Cold wind
(d) All of the above (often within a few hours)

All I want is:

(a) Cold beer
(b) Good food
(c) A great bunch of people

Luckily, OSH provides all three in abundance!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jack Allison]

Hey Jim...Yep, I'd be coming from Sacramento. The big issue for me is
buying a plane this year. I know, not an acceptable excuse since we are
talking about Oshkosh...but...splitting the rental bill two or three
ways does add up. Still got a couple more months to score a plane
though. Have the partners, have the cash, know what we want...now, we
just need to find that the Arrow with our name on it.

If I do manage to be an Arrow co-owner before Oshkosh and the dates work
out, a little convoy would be fun. I'd love to make it to Jay and
Mary's pool party. I'd probably stay for the entire week.

Hey, you might be able to help me out on the airplane front. In your
travels, if you see any Arrows for sale, drop me an e-mail. We'd love
to find one locally rather than go out of state. Looked at a real nice
one in Auburn, even made an offer but the owner doesn't want to deal so
we're still looking.


--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-IA Student-Arrow Shopping Student

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

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[RST Engineering]

The only problem is that our trip seems to be a moving target. First we
were going to get there on Monday after Jay's party on Sunday, but Jay moved
it back to Saturday and that made it just one day over our absolute limit.

Right now the plan is to depart NoCal early Monday and hope to arrive
Oshkosh early Wednesday. Forums Thursday and Friday, EAA Annual Meeting on
Saturday, and depart noonish Saturday, home on Monday.

Jim



> If I do manage to be an Arrow co-owner before Oshkosh and the dates work
> out, a little convoy would be fun. I'd love to make it to Jay and Mary's
> pool party. I'd probably stay for the entire week.

[Jack Allison]

RST Engineering wrote:

> The only problem is that our trip seems to be a moving target. First we
> were going to get there on Monday after Jay's party on Sunday, but Jay moved
> it back to Saturday and that made it just one day over our absolute limit.

Ah, Jay is the culprit. Curse those darn aviation theme motel
proprietors. How come they never consult with your schedule? :-)

>
> Right now the plan is to depart NoCal early Monday and hope to arrive
> Oshkosh early Wednesday. Forums Thursday and Friday, EAA Annual Meeting on
> Saturday, and depart noonish Saturday, home on Monday.

Feel free to keep me posted as to how the final plans work out. Sounds
like a possible caravan on the way home since I'd most likely plan on
leaving Sacra-Tomato Friday in hopes of making it to IOW Saturday.

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-IA Student-Arrow Shopping Student

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[Montblack]

("Jay Honeck" wrote ...with drool running down from the corner of his mouth)
>> Maybe some small steaks this year. What the Heck, it's vacation.
>
> Steaks? Did someone say "steaks"? I'm always up for steaks, although
> getting them cooked to everyone's liking is always a challenge. Jim, does
> that monster grill have a "steak setting"??


Steaks will be those single serving (individually packed/wrapped) Schwan's
kind. Rare, medium, burnt to a crisp, your choice. Let Joey (the grill
master) know how you want it - hope Joey volunteers(?) again this year <evil
grin>. Ron also did a great job of burger flip'n last year.

Steaks - in single serving portions, (BS) chicken breasts, pre-cooked brats.
No burgers this year. I will bring some pre-cooked sloppy joes to be heated
for the round bun crowd.

Pig? I'm open. Whatever the consensus of the group turns out to be.

Monster grill - you bet.

(The bottle of wine was fun last year - forgot who brought it)

Montblack

[Dave Butler]

Jimmy B. wrote:
> I'm thinking of making my first trip to Oshkosh this year.

I see you got lots of useful advice, but I didn't see anyone mention the Housing
Hotline. You'll find the 800 number on the airventure web page. They can tell
you about camping, UW dormitories, private homes that let out rooms for the
week, and hotels/motels.

I've done each of the above options one year or another. My preference is
camping on the field. If I stay off-field, it seems to take forever to get there
in the morning, free bus service or not.

If you're concerned about getting a camping/parking spot, plan to arrive right
after the airshow ends. The field is closed for the airshow, then they open it
up for departures, then arrivals. The departures, of course, leave empty parking
and camping spots. Read the NOTAM for timing information (and then re-read it,
and re-read it ...).

If you're coming from far away and can't plan your arrival time that accurately,
plan to arrive a little early and hang out at Dodge Co. Airport until the right
time. There's always an interesting collection of aircraft there doing the same
thing. Their fuel is reasonable, and they always have a buffet.

Dave

[Ron Natalie]

Montblack wrote:
> Ron also did a great job of burger flip'n last year.
>
Lets just remember the corkscrew this time. Those tie down screws
don't work well on the wine bottle.

[Morgans]

"Montblack" > wrote

> Steaks - in single serving portions, (BS) chicken breasts, pre-cooked
brats.
> No burgers this year. I will bring some pre-cooked sloppy joes to be
heated
> for the round bun crowd.
>
> Pig? I'm open. Whatever the consensus of the group turns out to be.
>
> Monster grill - you bet.
>
> (The bottle of wine was fun last year - forgot who brought it)
>
> Montblack

One of the beauties of the MOAG, is that it has two separate sides. Pig on
one, steaks and brats and chicken on the other side.
--
Jim in NC

[John Theune]

Ron Natalie wrote:
> Montblack wrote:
>
>> Ron also did a great job of burger flip'n last year.
>>
> Lets just remember the corkscrew this time. Those tie down screws
> don't work well on the wine bottle.
But we got it done!

[Morgans]

"John Theune" > wrote in message
news:dexSd.51245$uc.522@trnddc04...
> Ron Natalie wrote:
> > Montblack wrote:
> >
> >> Ron also did a great job of burger flip'n last year.
> >>
> > Lets just remember the corkscrew this time. Those tie down screws
> > don't work well on the wine bottle.
> But we got it done!

Shoot, I didn't know you had a problem involving the need for a type of
tool. I had enough tools (lacking one) to change a transmission in the
middle of a field, just a couple hundred yards away. I'm sure I could have
managed to get a cork out of a bottle! <VBG>
--
Jim in NC
P.S. I could have done it without the other too, but I'll not talk about
the time differential! ;-)

[Jay Honeck]

> Ah, Jay is the culprit. Curse those darn aviation theme motel
> proprietors. How come they never consult with your schedule? :-)

Nope, EAA is the culprit. By moving the whole danged show schedule up, we
had to move the party up a day -- and *poof* -- there went Jim's entire
week!

Once Jim is elected Grand Poobah of the EAA, I trust he will immediately
rectify this problem.

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> One of the beauties of the MOAG, is that it has two separate sides. Pig
> on
> one, steaks and brats and chicken on the other side.

Wow. This just gets better and better!

Now if only we can figure a way to get it parked at our campsite (so that
we're not running two miles back and forth to the Explorer Scouts
campground, depending on where we get parked) for Wednesday, I think we've
got this party in the bag!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jay Honeck]

> If you're concerned about getting a camping/parking spot, plan to arrive
> right after the airshow ends. The field is closed for the airshow, then
> they open it up for departures, then arrivals. The departures, of course,
> leave empty parking and camping spots. Read the NOTAM for timing
> information (and then re-read it, and re-read it ...).

This is excellent information, but beware: Right after the airshow is often
peak arrival time. You may be cheek-by-jowl with more airplanes than you've
ever seen, so practice your slow flight and spot landings.

Personally, I try to arrive mid-morning. This time seems to be something of
a lull, although it's STILL landing with more planes than I see anywhere
else.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Morgans]

"Jay Honeck" wrote

> Now if only we can figure a way to get it parked at our campsite (so that
> we're not running two miles back and forth to the Explorer Scouts
> campground, depending on where we get parked) for Wednesday, I think we've
> got this party in the bag!
> --
> Jay Honeck

One way or the other, we *will* eat good. It'll all work out. Every -pig-
has to find and acorn, every once in a while. <ducking and running>
--
Jim in NC

[Jack Allison]

Jay Honeck wrote:

> Nope, EAA is the culprit. By moving the whole danged show schedule up, we
> had to move the party up a day -- and *poof* -- there went Jim's entire
> week!

My bad... :-)



--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-IA Student-Arrow Shopping Student

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[Ron Natalie]

Morgans wrote:

>
> Shoot, I didn't know you had a problem involving the need for a type of
> tool. I had enough tools (lacking one) to change a transmission in the
> middle of a field, just a couple hundred yards away. I'm sure I could have
> managed to get a cork out of a bottle! <VBG>

Margy didn't have to ask too many campers before she found someone with
a corkscrew to join the party.

[Morgans]

"Ron Natalie" > wrote

> Margy didn't have to ask too many campers before she found someone with
> a corkscrew to join the party.

<chuckle> I'll bet not!
--
Jim in NC

[Kyle Boatright]

Can someone list the series of Oshkosh start day changes over the last 10
years?

I've lost track.

Have we arrived back where we started?

KB

"Jack Allison" > wrote in message
...
> Jay Honeck wrote:
>
>> Nope, EAA is the culprit. By moving the whole danged show schedule up,
>> we had to move the party up a day -- and *poof* -- there went Jim's
>> entire week!
>
> My bad... :-)
>
>
>
> --
> Jack Allison
> PP-ASEL-IA Student-Arrow Shopping Student
>
> "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
> with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
> you will always long to return"
> - Leonardo Da Vinci
>
> (Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[Dave Stadt]

"Kyle Boatright" > wrote in message
...
> Can someone list the series of Oshkosh start day changes over the last 10
> years?
>
> I've lost track.
>
> Have we arrived back where we started?

Yes, OSH now ends before it starts.

>
> KB
>
> "Jack Allison" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Jay Honeck wrote:
> >
> >> Nope, EAA is the culprit. By moving the whole danged show schedule up,
> >> we had to move the party up a day -- and *poof* -- there went Jim's
> >> entire week!
> >
> > My bad... :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jack Allison
> > PP-ASEL-IA Student-Arrow Shopping Student
> >
> > "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
> > with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
> > you will always long to return"
> > - Leonardo Da Vinci
> >
> > (Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)
>
>

[Jay Honeck]

>> Can someone list the series of Oshkosh start day changes over the last 10
>> years?
>>
>> I've lost track.
>>
>> Have we arrived back where we started?
>
> Yes, OSH now ends before it starts.

Actually, it never ends. OSH is a state of mind...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Ron Natalie]

Kyle Boatright wrote:
> Can someone list the series of Oshkosh start day changes over the last 10
> years?
>
> I've lost track.
My first Oshkosh was 12 or 13 years ago and it started on Friday.

[Dave Stadt]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:Oz0Td.20663$4D6.701@attbi_s51...
> >> Can someone list the series of Oshkosh start day changes over the last
10
> >> years?
> >>
> >> I've lost track.
> >>
> >> Have we arrived back where we started?
> >
> > Yes, OSH now ends before it starts.
>
> Actually, it never ends. OSH is a state of mind...
>
> ;-)

You've got that right, especially when it is only an hours flight away.

> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

[RST Engineering]

In 1973, it started on a Wednesday and finished the following Tuesday (in my
admittedly senior brain's recollection).

Jim



"Ron Natalie" > wrote in message
...
> Kyle Boatright wrote:
>> Can someone list the series of Oshkosh start day changes over the last 10
>> years?
>>
>> I've lost track.
> My first Oshkosh was 12 or 13 years ago and it started on Friday.

[Jay Honeck]

> In 1973, it started on a Wednesday and finished the following Tuesday (in
> my admittedly senior brain's recollection).

I started attending in 1982, but I never stayed the full length of the show,
so that memory is pretty fuzzy for me, too. Didn't the convention used to
be eight days long?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Eric Rood]

And we could still arrive after dark!
It was fun watching the string of landing lights 20-30 deep inbound.

RST Engineering wrote:
> In 1973, it started on a Wednesday and finished the following Tuesday (in my
> admittedly senior brain's recollection).

[Eric Rood]

Approximately 10 minutes per 1/4-inch thickness at 425F.
Works for steaks, fish, chicken and pork.
Depending on just how hot the grill is, the time can be adjusted 1 or 2
minutes either way.

Jay Honeck wrote:
> Steaks? Did someone say "steaks"? I'm always up for steaks, although
> getting them cooked to everyone's liking is always a challenge. Jim, does
> that monster grill have a "steak setting"??

[[email protected]]

But it was not fun (or safe) trying to park those airplanes after
dark...
The sunset "dead prop" rule is in effect for good reason! (although I
hear people sneaking in or out on occasion).

Ryan Wubben
Co-Chair, Flight Line Ops


Eric Rood wrote:
> And we could still arrive after dark!
> It was fun watching the string of landing lights 20-30 deep inbound.
>
> RST Engineering wrote:
> > In 1973, it started on a Wednesday and finished the following
Tuesday (in my
> > admittedly senior brain's recollection).

[Morgans]

> But it was not fun (or safe) trying to park those airplanes after
> dark...
> The sunset "dead prop" rule is in effect for good reason! (although I
> hear people sneaking in or out on occasion).

I've seen, no, heard people blasting out early, but never in. When was the
last time you heard of someone sneaking in?
--
Jim in NC

[Jay Honeck]

> I've seen, no, heard people blasting out early, but never in.

Me, neither.

We watched some poor guy get turned away entering DOWNWIND for Rwy 27, when
the clock ticked over to 8 PM. The guy was practically *begging* to be
allowed to land, but no dice. (I personally thought this was a ridiculous
abuse of power, and would have had some pretty severe words with the control
tower supervisor, had it been me.)

We were all rooting for him to declare "bingo fuel"...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"