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July 12th 19, 09:43 PM
Does anyone still have much contact with George? I was jknow he has been out of the soaring limelight for awhile now but just wondering how he was doing. I learned alot from him back in the day and had the opportunity to pick his brain when he was out at Minden working with Dick Brant and the big Jantar.

July 14th 19, 06:39 PM
No responses, makes me feel real old.

Scott Williams
July 14th 19, 10:27 PM
On Sunday, July 14, 2019 at 12:39:42 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> No responses, makes me feel real old


"So much of what we do is ephemeral and quickly forgotten, even by ourselves, so it's gratifying to have something you have done linger in people's memories."


John Towner Williams

Michael Opitz
July 15th 19, 02:17 AM
At 17:39 14 July 2019, wrote:
>No responses, makes me feel real old.
>
I think if George were to want to be contacted, he'd have made his
contact info readily available in the SSA directory. I'm sure that
those who were close to him during his racing years will still know
how to get a hold of him. My guess is that you should try and
contact one of those folks to ask if they know how he's doing, and if
he'll accept contact attempts. If George wants to maintain his
privacy, he won't be having his contact info being published here on
RAS.

RO

July 15th 19, 03:46 AM
I am a second generation Pilot of both airplanes and gliders, having been introduced to both by my Dad. My Dad once told me that George Moffat was the best Glider Pilot and everybody wanted him to fly their sailplanes. During my youth, I would look through my Dad’s monthly issues of Soaring Magazine to see how George Moffat fared in the Contest Reports. I read those reports with great interest.

I don’t think that we can even begin to measure or quantify his contributions to Soaring or what he has meant to Soaring in the USA.

July 15th 19, 03:52 PM
Mike, yes I fully know George stepped away from the soaring scene and didnot much care for the way the racing side was evolving, I think he also carroed a good bit of heartburn over not being allowed to defend his world championship back when he was denied his place on the team in what even from the outside looked to be a political decision.

I am not at all interested in putting his contact info out for public use. In fact, if I wanted to get ahold of his phone number or address it would be easy. I just was interested if anyone had any regular contact with him, had seen him and could tell me if hes in ok health or if hes a vegitable in an old folks home. He has to be very close to 90 now.

July 15th 19, 04:00 PM
Very well said John. I was looking at all the names on the old perpetual 1-26 championship trophies that I was privelaged to compete for and win this year. Some names engraved on there are very well known within the soaring community. Others I have never heard of. 50 years from now, some young fellow will see my name on them and wonder who the heck that guy was?

And when I core my last thermal and finish my final glide and the relatives are cleaning out my crap, going thru all my stuff, they will see the state and regional record certificates and not knowing all the sweat and work, challenge and dissapointment, adventure and excitment that went into earning them, throw the mess into the discard pile.
Dan

Michael Opitz
July 15th 19, 04:33 PM
At 14:52 15 July 2019, wrote:
>Mike, yes I fully know George stepped away from the soaring
scene and
>didno=
>t much care for the way the racing side was evolving, I think he
also
>carro=
>ed a good bit of heartburn over not being allowed to defend his
world
>champ=
>ionship back when he was denied his place on the team in what
even from
>the=
> outside looked to be a political decision.=20
>
>I am not at all interested in putting his contact info out for public
use.
>=
>In fact, if I wanted to get ahold of his phone number or address it
would
>b=
>e easy. I just was interested if anyone had any regular contact with
him,
>h=
>ad seen him and could tell me if hes in ok health or if hes a
vegitable in
>=
>an old folks home. He has to be very close to 90 now.
>

Personally, I don't know. The last time I saw him was at the Mifflin
STD Nats in 2001. That may have been one of the last contests
which he participated in. I could ask people who I'm sure would
know, but I don't want to pry. A long time ago, I heard he was
living on Buzzard's Bay and sailing every chance he could. I learned
a lot from him, and he would always ask how my father was doing
when we talked. If he wants his privacy, I will respect that.

RO

July 15th 19, 04:55 PM
Yes Mike agreed. I can see him at Buzzards Bay, quite a sailers mecca, and a guy can keep sailing long after he is no longer able to safely fly, allthough I will keep flying as long as I can get myself in and out of the cockpit, given that my mind still works correctly lol.

Tom Kelley #711
July 15th 19, 08:53 PM
On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 9:55:11 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> Yes Mike agreed. I can see him at Buzzards Bay, quite a sailers mecca, and a guy can keep sailing long after he is no longer able to safely fly, although I will keep flying as long as I can get myself in and out of the cockpit, given that my mind still works correctly lol.

Moffat and I, along with others, spoke at the Seniors 2007 and after that, he flew 2007 Mifflin 15 Meters in his Discus. I believe he sold it sometime after and retired from flying.

Not current but several years back, while at the Seniors, several of his friends and I spoke about him. If I remember correctly he was still enjoying sailing.

Best. Tom #711.

Andrzej Kobus
July 16th 19, 11:50 AM
On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 3:53:26 PM UTC-4, Tom Kelley #711 wrote:
> On Monday, July 15, 2019 at 9:55:11 AM UTC-6, wrote:
> > Yes Mike agreed. I can see him at Buzzards Bay, quite a sailers mecca, and a guy can keep sailing long after he is no longer able to safely fly, although I will keep flying as long as I can get myself in and out of the cockpit, given that my mind still works correctly lol.
>
> Moffat and I, along with others, spoke at the Seniors 2007 and after that, he flew 2007 Mifflin 15 Meters in his Discus. I believe he sold it sometime after and retired from flying.
>
> Not current but several years back, while at the Seniors, several of his friends and I spoke about him. If I remember correctly he was still enjoying sailing.
>
> Best. Tom #711.

Tom, is right. I spoke with him in 2009 and he was sailing competitively at that time.

September 4th 19, 09:56 AM
To Andrzej Kobus. I knew Andrzej Kobus in Warsaw, Poland in early 1950 my mother was visiting Kobus family. We have distant relatives who come from area of Kurów, 100 km SE of Warsaw. My grand folks were Butryn, Szumorek, Chabros from hamlets Dęba, Choszczów, Markuszów located few kilometers from Kurów near Puławy.

September 4th 19, 10:05 AM
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 1:56:41 AM UTC-7, wrote:
> To Andrzej Kobus. I knew Andrzej Kobus in Warsaw, Poland in early 1950 my mother was visiting Kobus family. We have distant relatives who come from area of Kurów, 100 km SE of Warsaw. My grand folks were Butryn, Szumorek, Chabros from hamlets Dęba, Choszczów, Markuszów located few kilometers from Kurów near Puławy.

I knew George Moffat during soaring in Marfa in 1967, 1969, 1970. You may find photos, search soaring Marfa 1967, Marfa 1969, 1970.

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