Local Rigger doesn't want to repack my chute

[Doug Snyder]

The local parachute packer doesn't want to repack my chute. He will in
fact do so but isn't happy about it. My chute is about 2-3 years old.
It was included when I bought the glider.

The objection is that the chute is a Strong. He says he has to pack it
"upside down". Apparently it's a pain in the a**.

Is this attitude toward Strong chutes common? I can certainly sell it
and get something different, but why? I figure the thing is good for
many years to come. On the other hand, if it's a hassle to get repacked
and I have to wait longer than everyone else... maybe I should cut my
losses.

What's the experince of RAS ?

Doug

[[email protected]]

I've owned a Strong for many years and never heard this complaint. In
fact, the riggers are all smiles when I write the checks.

OC

[Nyal Williams]

At 00:00 20 February 2005, Doug Snyder wrote:
>The local parachute packer doesn't want to repack my
>chute. He will in
>fact do so but isn't happy about it. My chute is about
>2-3 years old.
>It was included when I bought the glider.
>
>The objection is that the chute is a Strong. He says
>he has to pack it
>'upside down'. Apparently it's a pain in the a**.
>
>Is this attitude toward Strong chutes common? I can
>certainly sell it
>and get something different, but why? I figure the
>thing is good for
>many years to come. On the other hand, if it's a hassle
>to get repacked
>and I have to wait longer than everyone else... maybe
>I should cut my
>losses.
>
>What's the experince of RAS ?
>
>Doug

What does it mean to pack it 'upside down?' Can we
get an explanation and an opinion from a different
rigger?

[Bill Zaleski]

On 20 Feb 2005 02:01:09 GMT, Nyal Williams
> wrote:

>At 00:00 20 February 2005, Doug Snyder wrote:
>>The local parachute packer doesn't want to repack my
>>chute. He will in
>>fact do so but isn't happy about it. My chute is about
>>2-3 years old.
>>It was included when I bought the glider.
>>
>>The objection is that the chute is a Strong. He says
>>he has to pack it
>>'upside down'. Apparently it's a pain in the a**.
>>
>>Is this attitude toward Strong chutes common? I can
>>certainly sell it
>>and get something different, but why? I figure the
>>thing is good for
>>many years to come. On the other hand, if it's a hassle
>>to get repacked
>>and I have to wait longer than everyone else... maybe
>>I should cut my
>>losses.
>>
>>What's the experince of RAS ?
>>
>>Doug
>
>What does it mean to pack it 'upside down?' Can we
>get an explanation and an opinion from a different
>rigger?


There is nothing magic about packing a Strong rig, whether it is a
seat or back model. The rigger is either a newbie, or has some other
agenda. Ted Strong is a icon in the industry, has great gear, and the
packing methods are totally logical, available, and a natural
operation to a knowlegable, competent rigger.

Bill Zaleski
FAA Master Parachute Rigger
>
>

[HL Falbaum]

I've had a Strong 303 for about 10 years---never a repack complaint! The
riggers have charged $5 more because it is more "complicated"(???). On the
other hand, I am told it opens faster than others. So far, mine has just
been an expensive, but very comforting, cushion.

--
Hartley Falbaum
ASW27B "KF" USA

"Doug Snyder" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> The local parachute packer doesn't want to repack my chute. He will in
> fact do so but isn't happy about it. My chute is about 2-3 years old.
> It was included when I bought the glider.
>
> The objection is that the chute is a Strong. He says he has to pack it
> "upside down". Apparently it's a pain in the a**.
>
> Is this attitude toward Strong chutes common? I can certainly sell it
> and get something different, but why? I figure the thing is good for
> many years to come. On the other hand, if it's a hassle to get repacked
> and I have to wait longer than everyone else... maybe I should cut my
> losses.
>
> What's the experince of RAS ?
>
> Doug
>

[[email protected]]

I have my Strong repacked at the beginning of every season @ Lake
Elsinore, never a problem & costs $50.

[Bob C]

The Strong external pilot chute opens fast, but requires
a different packing technique than some sport reserves.
It's not harder, just different. A good rigger shouldn't
have any problem with it. If your guy can't handle
it, I'd say get a new rigger. He's either a newbie,
or just lazy. Strong actually makes the canopies for
several other brands. Their products are second to
none. I own four of them. Never had a problem.

Bob C.



At 18:00 20 February 2005, wrote:
>I have my Strong repacked at the beginning of every
>season @ Lake
>Elsinore, never a problem & costs $50.
>
>

[[email protected]]

If that rigger is not going to pack it for you send it to me. I will
pack it without any problems. The LoPo 26' canopy used by Strong is in
production for over 30 years. They have made over 10000 of them without
single failure or AD. Now, that's a record worth talking about. And if
a rigger is not packing it because he cannot follow directions in the
parachute manual...well, maybe he should not be rigging at all.

[chipsoars]

My Strong is repacked on schedule with Rigging Adventures at Cross Keys
in NJ. Affliated with FreeFall Adventures and a very large Strong
customer. I think my last pack was ~$45. If it were me, I'd like to
believe my packer was confident and capable. I don't get that sense
with yours.

Chip F.

[Doug Snyder]

I think I need to clarify.

As far as I know this is a competent rigger. He is not a newbie and has
been packing chutes in this area for some period of time. He has the
full conficence of the glider pilots I know.

He does grumble about packing Strong chutes.

I was just wondering if there is a widespread perception that Strong
chutes are somehow difficult to pack. Based on my reading of the
responses, there is something different about packing the chutes. There
doesn't seem to be much indication that they are more difficult to
pack.

I've learned from RAS that it's important to choose words carefully.
Any suggestion that the rigger in question is incompetent is merely my
failure to do so.

Doug

[chipsoars]

More of a function of electronic communication mishaps. Happens with
emails too;-}

Chip

[John Leibacher]

They are good rigs, comfortable to wear and straightforward to pack. I have
one in my LS-6.

John Leibacher '2E'

[ Full disclosure note: I worked with Strong one Summer 40 years ago, and
I'd still buy his gear! ;-) He's been in business that long. ]

"Doug Snyder" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> The local parachute packer doesn't want to repack my chute. He will in
> fact do so but isn't happy about it. My chute is about 2-3 years old.
> It was included when I bought the glider.
>
> The objection is that the chute is a Strong. He says he has to pack it
> "upside down". Apparently it's a pain in the a**.
>
> Is this attitude toward Strong chutes common? I can certainly sell it
> and get something different, but why? I figure the thing is good for
> many years to come. On the other hand, if it's a hassle to get repacked
> and I have to wait longer than everyone else... maybe I should cut my
> losses.
>
> What's the experince of RAS ?
>
> Doug
>