Internet access at Oshkosh?

[Paul Tomblin]

I don't suppose there is any chance that the campgrounds at Oshkosh are
covered by a WiFi hotspot? I see that there is some sort of "Internet
Cafe" in Aeroshell Square, but I once got banned from the "Internet Cafe"
at Sun n Fun because the idiot manning the area saw me using telnet to
telnet into my home computer to read my email with mutt, and thought I was
hacking into their computer or something. At least I think that's what he
thought - he wouldn't actually say what he thought I was doing. So
needless to say I'd be a lot happier if I can use my own laptop to read my
email and upload my photos.

--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Science is like sex: sometimes something useful comes out, but that's
not why we're doing it.
-- Richard Feynman

[Jay Honeck]

>I don't suppose there is any chance that the campgrounds at Oshkosh are
> covered by a WiFi hotspot?

Now, Paul, you'll probably accuse me of being a Luddite, but it just seems
to me to be a travesty of the highest order to contemplate sitting in the
Mecca of all aviation -- Oshkosh -- surfing the internet.

I mean, heck -- I use the internet for EVERYTHING -- but if I am ever
tempted to surf while in OSH, I want someone to shoot me.

;-)

To answer your question, I've not heard of such a thing...yet.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Bushleague]

Similar to people using wireless phones on cruise ships which we
freely toss over the side.

Bush

On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 23:57:05 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:

>I don't suppose there is any chance that the campgrounds at Oshkosh are
>covered by a WiFi hotspot? I see that there is some sort of "Internet
>Cafe" in Aeroshell Square, but I once got banned from the "Internet Cafe"
>at Sun n Fun because the idiot manning the area saw me using telnet to
>telnet into my home computer to read my email with mutt, and thought I was
>hacking into their computer or something. At least I think that's what he
>thought - he wouldn't actually say what he thought I was doing. So
>needless to say I'd be a lot happier if I can use my own laptop to read my
>email and upload my photos.

[Morgans]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote

>
> Now, Paul, you'll probably accuse me of being a Luddite, but it just seems
> to me to be a travesty of the highest order to contemplate sitting in the
> Mecca of all aviation -- Oshkosh -- surfing the internet.
>
> I mean, heck -- I use the internet for EVERYTHING -- but if I am ever
> tempted to surf while in OSH, I want someone to shoot me.
>
> ;-)
>
> To answer your question, I've not heard of such a thing...yet.
> --
> Jay Honeck

I gotta admit that it would be nice to e-mail home, and get in contact with
other RAP and RAH nutcases that are on site, to arrange meeting times and
places, and such.
--
Jim in NC

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, Bushleague > said:
>Similar to people using wireless phones on cruise ships which we
>freely toss over the side.

You throw my wireless phone over the side, you'll be joining it.

--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"American 999, Heathrow Approach. Descend and maintain 4,000 feet, QNH 1011."
"Uhhh Heathrow Approach, could you give us that in inches?"
"American 999, descend and maintain 48,000 inches, QNH 1011."

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "Jay Honeck" > said:
>>I don't suppose there is any chance that the campgrounds at Oshkosh are
>> covered by a WiFi hotspot?
>
>Now, Paul, you'll probably accuse me of being a Luddite, but it just seems
>to me to be a travesty of the highest order to contemplate sitting in the
>Mecca of all aviation -- Oshkosh -- surfing the internet.

The last time I was there, I spent roughly 12 hours a day walking around
taking pictures. At the end of each day, I couldn't move and had to ice
down my knees and gulp down every pain killer I could risk without losing
my medical (ibuprophen, tylenol and alieve) in order to have a hope in
hell of managing the next day. Is it really such a travesty of life that
I want to spend some of that non-moving time catching up with my friends
and family instead of just reading brochures?

--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Sept 25th: Discovered lots of things about Dynamic HTML.
Notably that almost every site attempting to use it is crap.
-- Alan Cox's diary

[Jay Honeck]

> The last time I was there, I spent roughly 12 hours a day walking around
> taking pictures. At the end of each day, I couldn't move and had to ice
> down my knees and gulp down every pain killer I could risk without losing
> my medical (ibuprophen, tylenol and alieve) in order to have a hope in
> hell of managing the next day. Is it really such a travesty of life that
> I want to spend some of that non-moving time catching up with my friends
> and family instead of just reading brochures?

Yes.

I mean, heck, you could be "icing down your pain" with us over at Friar
Tucks!

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "Jay Honeck" > said:
>> hell of managing the next day. Is it really such a travesty of life that
>> I want to spend some of that non-moving time catching up with my friends
>> and family instead of just reading brochures?
>
>Yes.
>
>I mean, heck, you could be "icing down your pain" with us over at Friar
>Tucks!

Well, I suppose I could at that. But I'd still like to keep in touch with
my wife and family.


--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
There are mushrooms that can survive weeks, months without air or food.
They just dry out and when water comes back, they wake up again. And call
the helldesk about their password expiring. -- after Jens Benecke and Tanuki

[Jay Honeck]

> Well, I suppose I could at that. But I'd still like to keep in touch with
> my wife and family.

That's why I bring mine along with me...

Gotta share the pain, doncha know.

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jack Allison]

Last year, I was able to plug the laptop into the network at the dorms
at Marrion College. Worked like a charm. Of course, staying at Marrion
without a car all week was a drag since round trip on the shuttle was
$20. Oh well, live and learn.

Some sort of wireless access would be nice but I doubt I'd haul my
laptop anywhere around the field.

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-IA Student-Arrow Shopping Student

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[[email protected]]

I think Mr. Bush was meaning the people, not the phones ;-)
-Kees

[Montblack]

("Paul Tomblin" wrote)
<snip>
>I don't suppose there is any chance that the campgrounds at Oshkosh are
> covered by a WiFi hotspot?


Last year a guy outside the N40 showers showed me his PalmPilot looking
thing (might have been an HP or a Sony.) Anyway, he found a hotspot. He
figured the WiFi signal was from EAA, not one of the homes on the south side
of 9/27.

10pm we were surfing with the stylus, next to the showers at OSH.


Montblack

[Montblack]

("Paul Tomblin" wrote)
> The last time I was there, I spent roughly 12 hours a day walking around
> taking pictures. At the end of each day, I couldn't move and had to ice
> down my knees and gulp down every pain killer I could risk without losing
> my medical (ibuprophen, tylenol and alieve) in order to have a hope in
> hell of managing the next day.


I've got some leftover Vicodin from my 2003 surgery. At Oshkosh I take one
pill at 9am and I'm good to go for the day. Once in a while I'll pop a 3 pm
pill. Works GREAT. My feet don't hurt all day.

Oshkosh and a big antique tractor show are the only times in the year that I
pop my vicodins. I've got a pretty healthy supply yet.

I'll be very sad when they're finally all gone :-(


Montblack
"I can quit whenever I want to"

[Morgans]

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Paul Tomblin" wrote)
> <snip>
> >I don't suppose there is any chance that the campgrounds at Oshkosh are
> > covered by a WiFi hotspot?
>
>
> Last year a guy outside the N40 showers showed me his PalmPilot looking
> thing (might have been an HP or a Sony.) Anyway, he found a hotspot. He
> figured the WiFi signal was from EAA, not one of the homes on the south
side
> of 9/27.
>
> 10pm we were surfing with the stylus, next to the showers at OSH.
>
>
> Montblack

I wonder if that was from either the CAP compound, or the Aviation Explorer
compound?
--
Jim in NC

[CryptWolf]

"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...
> I don't suppose there is any chance that the campgrounds at Oshkosh are
> covered by a WiFi hotspot? I see that there is some sort of "Internet
> Cafe" in Aeroshell Square, but I once got banned from the "Internet Cafe"
> at Sun n Fun because the idiot manning the area saw me using telnet to
> telnet into my home computer to read my email with mutt, and thought I was
> hacking into their computer or something. At least I think that's what he
> thought - he wouldn't actually say what he thought I was doing. So
> needless to say I'd be a lot happier if I can use my own laptop to read my
> email and upload my photos.

If you can stand the sometimes slow speed (depends on phone and cell co)
you can plug a cell phone into the laptop. The cable and software was
less than $70 and my cell phone acting as a modem runs at 19k.

I can get a duats brief, email or anything else within reason that I might
need from the internet. The only problem I can think of is the cell phone
towers around Oshkosh may be saturated. With the usual free
evenings and weekends, time isn't a problem and you are bypassing
the cell company's data network in most cases so there won't be an
extra charge.

Otherwise you'll have to look for hotspot that may cost some money.
You can find several with an internet search.

[Blanche]

I dunno about wifi at the field, but I usually hit the local
Kinko's in the evening.

[Blanche]

and if i remember correctly, UW-OSH dorms have internet access.
Lawrence (in Appleton) claimed to also, but I could never find it.

Personally, I really don't want to drag more stuff around.

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, Blanche > said:
>Personally, I really don't want to drag more stuff around.

Well, I'll have the lapdog with me anyway because I need to unload my
pictures every night, and my iPod is too old to use that Belkin device
that allows you to unload a CF card to the iPod. So while I've got it, I
might as well get some use out of it.

--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
If Microsoft made your letter box, all some one would have to do is write
"Burn the house down" on a piece of paper and post it through the door,
and your house would go up in flames. - David Ruck

[Jay Honeck]

> Well, I'll have the lapdog with me anyway because I need to unload my
> pictures every night

We used to drag our laptop to OSH, until we found a service on the field
(run by the aerobatic or classics guys -- I forget now, although I could
walk your right to their building) that will transfer your pictures onto a
CD-ROM for a nominal donation -- I think it was five bucks -- to their
cause.

It saves the hassle (and worry) of packing a laptop, *and* it helps a group
of pilots support their addiction.

Of course, san disks are so cheap now, I suppose I could just buy another
hand full of them...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

[Jack Allison]

Jay Honeck wrote:
> Of course, san disks are so cheap now, I suppose I could just buy another
> hand full of them...

512MB SD card in the new camera...oh ya baby...holds 840+ pictures at
2nd to best resolution. No need to download to the laptop. But...I'd
probably still download to the laptop as a) until I can burn pics. to a
CD, having another copy is nice and b) the laptop goes along with me
anyway for the evening/morning weather briefs wherever we end up for the
night on the way to/from OSH.

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-IA Student-Arrow Shopping Student

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

[Rob]

Last summer, I took a Cessna 150 from Phoenix to OSH, then on to the
east coast, and then home to Phoenix. I used my WiFi Pocket PC PDA, an
ipaq 5550, during my trip to get weather data and to upload photos and
a diary to a little web site "blog" for family and friends at home. I
spent a good bit of time sniffing around for an open wifi hotspot while
I was at OSH, but I never found one.

There were several wireless networks in each of the large conference
halls, but they all required authentication. I asked around at a few
of the booths that featured wifi enabled products and I got the
impression that wireless net access was an expensive add-on to the cost
of renting the trade show booth. I cynically surmised that protecting
that revenue stream was the reason for not providing public access.

There is, as someone mentioned, a member pavilion where you may wait in
line to use a personal computer for a period of time. I asked the
hostess there about wifi and she didn't really seem to understand what
I meant.

I figured at the time that I could take a walk around the perimeter
road of the North Forty and probably find something coming out of a
residence, but I never tried. The same trick did work earlier in the
week in Manhattan, Kansas when I was able to find a hotspot to send an
email by slowly cruising through a residential neighborhood in a
courtesy car until the green light on my PDA came on.

I've heard that at some gatherings of R. V. enthusiasts the hams in the
crowd will get together and put up some sort of wireless net. I
naively figured that the same would certainly be true in the North
Forty at Oshkosh. I would bet that Oshkosh during that week is pretty
cooking with RF activity. I saw some CAP kids cruising around in a
golf cart with radio sniffing equipment. I presume they were looking
for ELTs and I'll bet they found a few! I also saw an SBC
Communications van covered in antennas driving around slowly with the
passenger staring at a computer monitor. I waved them down and asked
about wifi but the dude just scoffed at me and said no way. Saw a
similar van at the Reno air races in September. Any idea what they're
up to?

-R

[Dave Butler]

Paul Tomblin wrote:
> I don't suppose there is any chance that the campgrounds at Oshkosh are
> covered by a WiFi hotspot?

Glad you asked, Paul, I was wondering the same thing. http://www.jiwire.com
lists 8 hot spots in Oshkosh, and one of them is

Kinkos Oshkosh WI Airport
1971 S Koeller St
Oshkosh WI 54902

I'm not sure where that is. Jiwire's data indicates they have 2 WiFi providers.

Maybe we could all lobby Basler's to put in a hot spot. Lots of FBOs seem to be
doing that, at least in the big cities.

[Morgans]

"Jay Honeck" > wrote
>
> Of course, san disks are so cheap now, I suppose I could just buy another
> hand full of them...
> --
> Jay Honeck

Santa brought me a new camera after my old one finally broke, and the rest
of the family was overjoyed at having something specific to buy, so they
bought memory cards. My biggest is 1 gig. No way could I ever fill all of
my cards, now! (that is a good thing, I think )
--
Jim in NC

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, Jack Allison > said:
>Jay Honeck wrote:
>> Of course, san disks are so cheap now, I suppose I could just buy another
>> hand full of them...
>
>512MB SD card in the new camera...oh ya baby...holds 840+ pictures at
>2nd to best resolution. No need to download to the laptop. But...I'd

Oshkosh 2003, I was using a Kodak DCS Pro14N 14 megapixel camera.
Shooting at 14 megapixel raw + 6 megapixel jpeg (so I could show people
the unphotoshopped pictures that evening) I filled up one 1 Gb Microdrive
and partially filled up the other just about every day.

--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Please say this was followed by a very serious discussion on Right and
Wrong involving a blow torch, 220V, a cobra and three East Germans
named Georg... -- Robert Uhl

[Morgans]

"Paul Tomblin" > wrote

> Oshkosh 2003, I was using a Kodak DCS Pro14N 14 megapixel camera.
> Shooting at 14 megapixel raw + 6 megapixel jpeg (so I could show people
> the unphotoshopped pictures that evening) I filled up one 1 Gb Microdrive
> and partially filled up the other just about every day.
>
> --
> Paul Tomblin

Man, that's one hell of a camera, but isn't it about a zillion times
overkill for OSH?

I mean, if you are going to publish them or print 8 by 10's, OK, but, wow,
14 raw?

I don't have the rig(I'll take it off your hands for you <g>), and I'm not
you, but I don't see the need.

What do you do with the pics you take? If it's not my business, just tell
me to shut up! <g>
--
Jim in NC

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, "Morgans" > said:
>"Paul Tomblin" > wrote
>> Oshkosh 2003, I was using a Kodak DCS Pro14N 14 megapixel camera.
>> Shooting at 14 megapixel raw + 6 megapixel jpeg (so I could show people
>Man, that's one hell of a camera, but isn't it about a zillion times
>overkill for OSH?

Well, somebody at work offered to loan it to me, and I jumped at the
chance. I'm hoping this year I'll be able to borrow one of the newer
DSLRs, like maybe the Minolta with the built-in image stabilizer.

>I mean, if you are going to publish them or print 8 by 10's, OK, but, wow,
>14 raw?

Hey, I had the camera, I had the microdrives, and I had a laptop to unload
them onto. So why not?

>What do you do with the pics you take? If it's not my business, just tell
>me to shut up! <g>

Well, unfortunately it turned out after the even that there were a couple
of spots on the CCD. But I put some of the better ones up on
http://xcski.com/gallery/oshkosh2003/

--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
I read [.doc files] with "rm". All you lose is the microsoft-specific
font selections, the macro viruses and the luser babblings.
-- Gary "Wolf" Barnes

[George Patterson]

Dave Butler wrote:
>
> I'm not sure where that is. Jiwire's data indicates they have 2 WiFi providers.

According to the Maps feature on Yahoo, you head out the north forty gate at
Friar Tuck's. That puts you on 20th Street. Walk west on 20th past South Park
Avenue and Capital Drive to South Koeller and turn right. Should be very near
the corner. Looks to be about 3/4 mile from Friar Tuck's.

Looks like there might be a short cut if you were coming from the homebuilt
parking area.

George Patterson
He who tries to carry a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in
no other way.