Rough outlanding in high corn

[Dave Nadler]

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190815092618-03-russian-plane-emergency-landing-0815-exlarge-169.jpg

[Tango Eight]

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 9:12:15 AM UTC-4, Dave Nadler wrote:
> https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190815092618-03-russian-plane-emergency-landing-0815-exlarge-169.jpg

Some disassembly required.

T8

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On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 9:12:15 AM UTC-4, Dave Nadler wrote:
> https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190815092618-03-russian-plane-emergency-landing-0815-exlarge-169.jpg

More pix on Reuters. Looks like they landed along the rows of corn as advised. The birds strike again.

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Miracle in the cornfield.

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On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> Miracle in the cornfield.

Nah, just a straightforward power-less landing. This was the real "Miracle in the cornfield": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232

[Jonathon May]

At 16:19 15 August 2019, wrote:
>On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC-4,

>wrote:
>> Miracle in the cornfield.
>
>Nah, just a straightforward power-less landing. This was the real
"Miracle
>in the cornfield":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232
\
It will need a big trailer for the retrieve
>

[Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)]

Saw that before your posting....wondered how long before a post here......
Russians trying to beat Sully/US....
Still cool, decent landing.
Wonder if local PoPo are asking about crop damage...I remember decades ago in "Clay lick PA", a dozen bent corn stalks, owner was asking HUGE bucks for lost revenue...I was part of retrieve crew....I think cash was maybe $100 to end conversation.....
How the frig you do a retrieve?!?!
Scrap onsite.....you pick up?!?!

Glad a decent outcome.....

[Bruce Hoult]

On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-7, Jonathon May wrote:
> At 16:19 15 August 2019, wrote:
> >On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC-4,
>
> >wrote:
> >> Miracle in the cornfield.
> >
> >Nah, just a straightforward power-less landing. This was the real
> "Miracle
> >in the cornfield":
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232
> \
> It will need a big trailer for the retrieve

I've been on that airfield (for the MAKS airshow) and know the area tolerably well. If they're lucky they might be able to just knock down a few fences and tow it back.

The main problem would be if there was a stand of forest between.

[Martin Gregorie[_6_]]

On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 03:35:55 -0700, Bruce Hoult wrote:

> On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-7, Jonathon May wrote:
>> At 16:19 15 August 2019, wrote:
>> >On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC-4,
>>
>> >wrote:
>> >> Miracle in the cornfield.
>> >
>> >Nah, just a straightforward power-less landing. This was the real
>> "Miracle
>> >in the cornfield":
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232 \
>> It will need a big trailer for the retrieve
>
> I've been on that airfield (for the MAKS airshow) and know the area
> tolerably well. If they're lucky they might be able to just knock down a
> few fences and tow it back.
>
> The main problem would be if there was a stand of forest between.

There's another, bigger, problem: it was a wheels-up landing. The BBC
video clip is, for once, quite informative:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49355236

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> There's another, bigger, problem: it was a wheels-up landing.

No wonder the corn looked so tall.

[Howard Banks]

One local report said the plane went across a drainage gully before coming

to a stop. Gear down that could well have made it a whole lot worse.
Will they have to disassemble? Send for a Size 10 Cobra? LoL


At 13:23 16 August 2019, wrote:
>> There's another, bigger, problem: it was a wheels-up landing.
>
>No wonder the corn looked so tall.
>

[Bruce Hoult]

On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 4:41:17 AM UTC-7, Martin Gregorie wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 03:35:55 -0700, Bruce Hoult wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 1:30:06 PM UTC-7, Jonathon May wrote:
> >> At 16:19 15 August 2019, wrote:
> >> >On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 11:48:48 AM UTC-4,
> >>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >> Miracle in the cornfield.
> >> >
> >> >Nah, just a straightforward power-less landing. This was the real
> >> "Miracle
> >> >in the cornfield":
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232 \
> >> It will need a big trailer for the retrieve
> >
> > I've been on that airfield (for the MAKS airshow) and know the area
> > tolerably well. If they're lucky they might be able to just knock down a
> > few fences and tow it back.
> >
> > The main problem would be if there was a stand of forest between.
>
> There's another, bigger, problem: it was a wheels-up landing. The BBC
> video clip is, for once, quite informative:
>
> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49355236

I'm aware of that.

I'd submit that jacking it up and dropping the gear is a *considerably* smaller problem than clearing a couple of km of forest would be.

There would also be several drains or watercourses to temporarily bridge, the widest being an 8m irrigation channel, before the next person decides to point out something else I've apparently "missed".

[Maxx Ruff[_2_]]

More info / Compilation of videos

blancolirio - Published on Aug 15, 2019
Airbus A321 Birdstrike and Crash Landing Moscow15 Aug 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95lwwrD3gnY&t=0s

[John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net]

If you build it (a cornfield) they will come (a landout).

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

[Bruce Hoult]

On Saturday, August 17, 2019 at 12:27:28 PM UTC-7, John DeRosa OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
> If you build it (a cornfield) they will come (a landout).
>
> Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

It helps if you put your cornfield two miles off the end of the runway at a busy airport.

Zhukovsky is a strange beast. It's fundamentally a military airfield. The bin-annual MAKS airshow is held there (I attended in 2015, soon after I started living in Russia). It's where you used to be able to buy a supersonic and/or edge of space MIG-29 flight

While I was in Russia they repurposed Zhukovsky as Moscow's 4th civilian International Airport. This was done very quickly, with very little infrastructure. They whacked up a terminal building in a couple of months and opened the place, pretty much. I thought the idea was to operate european discount airlines such as EasyJet from there. I didn't know they were doing domestic services.

It's very much the poor step-sister of the other three airports located N, W, and S of Moscow. The others have all got motorways and a dedicated railway line to them -- the Aeroexpress train takes 35 minutes (Vnukovo and Sheremetyevo) or 45 minutes (Domodedovo) from each airport to different railway stations each located about 3 to 4 km from the Kremlin on the Garden Ring road and metro Circle Line. You can drive/taxi in about the same amount of time (but from home, not from a railway station) if traffic is light, but if it's not .. I've once taken two hours to taxi from home to Vnukovo.

The way things work in Russia, if someone at the top wants Zhukovshy and its connections to the city developed quickly then everything could be utterly different in five years from now.

[George Haeh]

CMAS - Corn Material Arresting Sys

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On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 8:12:15 AM UTC-5, Dave Nadler wrote:
> https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190815092618-03-russian-plane-emergency-landing-0815-exlarge-169.jpg

I wonder if the pilot also had to answer the question "what happened, did the wind quit?" LOL

Glad for a good outcome, wonder how long the retrieve will take!

OG

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So, if a jet engine is running when landing in a corn field, does it blow grits or popcorn out the tailpipe?

[Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)]

Depends on the type of corn.....;-)


As an aside, the landing was due to birds, so likely not much thrust to cook the corn......

[Dan Marotta]

BBs.

On 8/20/2019 7:11 AM, wrote:
> So, if a jet engine is running when landing in a corn field, does it blow grits or popcorn out the tailpipe?
>

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Dan, 5J