Are op-specs public?

[Roy Smith]

Are airline op-specs public documents? If I wanted to see, for example,
the op-specs that United Airlines operates under, could I get a copy from
the FAA?

[Capt 'Wild' Bill Kelso, USAAC]

Roy Smith wrote:
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> Are airline op-specs public documents? If I wanted to see, for example,
> the op-specs that United Airlines operates under, could I get a copy from
> the FAA?

Ours(um, not UAL) are controlled documents, not allowed to be released to the
public. Its not likely you could get anyone to get you a copy in this day and
age.
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[Roy Smith]

In article >,
"Capt 'Wild' Bill Kelso, USAAC" > wrote:

> Roy Smith wrote:
> >
> > Are airline op-specs public documents? If I wanted to see, for example,
> > the op-specs that United Airlines operates under, could I get a copy from
> > the FAA?
>
> Ours(um, not UAL) are controlled documents, not allowed to be released to the
> public. Its not likely you could get anyone to get you a copy in this day and
> age.

Not allowed by who? Does the airline consider it confidential for business
reasons, or does the FAA consider it confidential for national security
reasons?

[Capt 'Wild' Bill Kelso, USAAC]

Roy Smith wrote:
>
> In article >,
> "Capt 'Wild' Bill Kelso, USAAC" > wrote:
>
> > Roy Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > Are airline op-specs public documents? If I wanted to see, for example,
> > > the op-specs that United Airlines operates under, could I get a copy from
> > > the FAA?
> >
> > Ours(um, not UAL) are controlled documents, not allowed to be released to the
> > public. Its not likely you could get anyone to get you a copy in this day and
> > age.
>
> Not allowed by who? Does the airline consider it confidential for business
> reasons, or does the FAA consider it confidential for national security
> reasons?

There is a controlled docs statement on the front page of our Ops manual, and in
it are our Ops Specs.

There are, however, standard FAA Ops Specs that every airline or charter company
under Pt 121, 123, 125 or 135 have.. normal and/or lower than standard T/O,
Landing minimums, weather reporting, chain of control/command and requirments
to hold a particular office(Chief Pilot, Dir of Ops,) etc.. .those you can get
by calling the FAA Air Carrier office in Washington. You may be able to find
them on the FAA's website too, but for specific air carrier, I wouldnt think so.


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[Scott Skylane]

Roy Smith wrote:
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> Not allowed by who? Does the airline consider it confidential for business
> reasons, or does the FAA consider it confidential for national security
> reasons?

Roy,

Our General Ops Manual, which contains our Ops Specs, contains an
opening statement that says: "Disclosure of the contents of this manual
without the authorization of (company) is cause for employee dismissal."

I'm not sure that a FOIA request wouldn't require the FAA to cough up
their copies, though. Unless there is some clause in FOIA that protects
proprietary information.

Happy Flying!
Scott Skylane