Diamonds clarification help please

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I need to find out if there is a publication which would explain in
detail requirements for diamonds. I understand, after reading some of
my books that you need altitude, goal and distance.
O'K altitude is not a problem but...what do I use to prove my altitude?
Do I need a barograph or can the Volkslogger data be used for that
purpose?
Goal...I fly out and return flight totaling of 186 miles (300 km) or a
triangle equal to 186 miles (300 km). Is this correct?
Now the main issue..my distance...do I have to fly out for 310 miles
(500 km) land somewhere or can I fly out and return flight with combine
distance of 310 miles (500 km)? Can anyone explain to me this issue?
Thanks for your help.

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Most gps recorders are approved for badge and records, including
Volkslogger. Check FAI site to be sure. Diamond Goal can be an out
and return, straight out to a goal or a triangle. Same with 500K.

Check with the badge lady on the SSA site, by the way Jacquie Payne's
publication, available from SSA still has most of the answers.


wrote:
> I need to find out if there is a publication which would explain in
> detail requirements for diamonds. I understand, after reading some of
> my books that you need altitude, goal and distance.
> O'K altitude is not a problem but...what do I use to prove my
altitude?
> Do I need a barograph or can the Volkslogger data be used for that
> purpose?
> Goal...I fly out and return flight totaling of 186 miles (300 km) or
a
> triangle equal to 186 miles (300 km). Is this correct?
> Now the main issue..my distance...do I have to fly out for 310 miles
> (500 km) land somewhere or can I fly out and return flight with
combine
> distance of 310 miles (500 km)? Can anyone explain to me this issue?
> Thanks for your help.

[Eric Greenwell]

wrote:
> Most gps recorders are approved for badge and records, including
> Volkslogger. Check FAI site to be sure. Diamond Goal can be an out
> and return, straight out to a goal or a triangle.

Diamond goal can not be a "straight out" flight (2.1.3.b), which seems
odd to me.

> Same with 500K.

The 500K requirement is quite different from the goal flights, as it
does not require a goal, nor would a O&R or triangle have to be
completed, as long as the distance done exceeded 500K.


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[Mal.com]

http://www.fai.org/

[Mal.com]

a.. Diamonds. There are three diamonds:
a.. Diamond free distance: 500km free distance
b.. Diamond goal distance: 300km to a goal
c.. Diamond height: 5,000m gain of height.
http://www.fai.org/gliding/badges/

I have #6935 in the register the height is the hard one.

Mal

[Andrew Warbrick]

At 10:30 01 March 2005, Mal.Com wrote:
>a.. Diamonds. There are three diamonds:
> a.. Diamond free distance: 500km free distance
> b.. Diamond goal distance: 300km to a goal
> c.. Diamond height: 5,000m gain of height.
>http://www.fai.org/gliding/badges/
>
>I have #6935 in the register the height is the hard
>one.
>
>Mal
>
>
>
Which is the hard one depends where you live, in Australia
maybe the height is the hard one, in Scotland the height
can sometimes be so easy that a pilot could get diamond
height before silver distance, the 500k is the more
difficult one.

[Stefan]

Andrew Warbrick wrote:

> Which is the hard one depends where you live,

It should always be remembered which gliders were in use when those
badges were defined. With today's material those badges are not exactly
a joke, but have lost a lot of their magic.

Stefan

[Stewart Kissel]

Thus...the 1,000K Diploma, which even the most hard-boiled
would consider quite an achievement in any ship. And
one can always do it flying an FAI triangle for the
extra challenge.
>
With today's material those badges are not exactly

>a joke, but have lost a lot of their magic.
>
>Stefan
>

[Chris Rollings]

That's why they invented FAI 1000, 2000 and 3000 Km
Diplomas and why a lot of countries introduced their
own 750 km diplomas.

My observation (mainly in the UK) is that the ratio
of failures to sucesses on first 50 and 300 km flight
attempts has not changed all that much in the last
30 years, but the sucessful ones get round quite a
bit faster than they used to.

Apart from the SSA's 'lennies' no one seems to have
come up with a benchmark above Diamond Altitude Gain.
Just out of curiosity, how many pilots have doubled
ALL the requirements for a Diamond Badge?

At 12:30 01 March 2005, Stefan wrote:
>Andrew Warbrick wrote:
>
>> Which is the hard one depends where you live,
>
>It should always be remembered which gliders were in
>use when those
>badges were defined. With today's material those badges
>are not exactly
>a joke, but have lost a lot of their magic.
>
>Stefan
>