Open Cirrus for sale

[Geoff Minors]

Just seeing if there is any interest in my Open Cirrus?
Located in Alberta.
Price US$13,000
Glider is in good shape. Trailer is a bit ugly needs some work but towable.
I can send pics on request.

I just don't get the opportunity to fly it as I seem to be always in the back seat instructing.
I will do a walk around video this weekend and post it on youtube.

[[email protected]]

On Monday, 16 September 2019 13:27:49 UTC-4, Geoff Minors wrote:
> Just seeing if there is any interest in my Open Cirrus?
> Located in Alberta.
> Price US$13,000
> Glider is in good shape. Trailer is a bit ugly needs some work but towable.
> I can send pics on request.
>
> I just don't get the opportunity to fly it as I seem to be always in the back seat instructing.
> I will do a walk around video this weekend and post it on youtube.

Geoff, please include some footage of your trailer in your walk around video. Cheers. D

[Geoff Minors]

On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 11:27:49 AM UTC-6, Geoff Minors wrote:
> Just seeing if there is any interest in my Open Cirrus?
> Located in Alberta.
> Price US$13,000
> Glider is in good shape. Trailer is a bit ugly needs some work but towable.
> I can send pics on request.
>
> I just don't get the opportunity to fly it as I seem to be always in the back seat instructing.
> I will do a walk around video this weekend and post it on youtube.

Listing will be on wings and wheels soon. Just waiting approval for the listing.

[John Foster]

On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 11:27:49 AM UTC-6, Geoff Minors wrote:
> Just seeing if there is any interest in my Open Cirrus?
> Located in Alberta.
> Price US$13,000
> Glider is in good shape. Trailer is a bit ugly needs some work but towable.
> I can send pics on request.
>
> I just don't get the opportunity to fly it as I seem to be always in the back seat instructing.
> I will do a walk around video this weekend and post it on youtube.

I don't see the walk-around video posted on your YouTube account. Is it listed as "private"?

[Geoff Minors]

Due to bad weather here I have not made it. I will be at the airfield for our wave camp 2nd week of October I will make it then and post it.

[Christopher Schrader[_2_]]

Fwiw, the Open Cirrus is an excellent glider IMHO for low hour glider pilots to transition to high performance. The glider's polar curve doesn't favor flying fast but the glider sure has long legs if you keep her under 65 kts.. It's handling characteristics make it a dream to fly - it's truly a beginner's ship if you ask me (but be sure to get a one-man rigger for it). My club is very happy with its recent purchase of Chicken Noodle (N77CN) and I'm forever grateful its previous owner gave it so much TLC.

- Chris Schrader

[Burt Compton - Marfa Gliders, west Texas]

DRAG CHUTE: If still installed, contact me for my suggestions on how to pack it and use it.

I began flying an Open Cirrus in 1968 and practiced packing and using the drag chute for the inevitable cross-country off-airport landings to come.

Many first generation (Open Cirrus, Phoebus, Libelle 201, etc.) composite sailplanes were heavier compared to the last of the wooden ships (Ka-6, SHK.) Heavier means more energy (velocity) on the approach and a longer landing rollout. So pilots approached the relatively small fields in Europe using a drag chute. Many sailplanes were damaged because unlike the airbrakes, a drag chute cannot be modulated.
All drag or none, IF it deploys.
Before the chute fully deploys (3 seconds), close and lock the airbrakes and get ready to find the jettison knob if coming up short of the landing area or unseen power lines. You do NOT want both the drag chute and airbrakes deployed as your sailplane will "drop in" hard.

Deploying the chute too early resulted in some landing short incidents while the pilot fumbled for the chute jettison knob. Manufacturers eliminated the drag chute from most subsequent designs except the ASW-12 which had no airbrakes for glide path control. The only modern sailplane that I know of with a drag chute is Dick Butler's big beautiful Concordia. Mr. Butler added the drag chute after his early flights in it.

If you want my complete file with SUGGESTIONS on using a drag chute, contact me.
Only my suggestions. Your sailplane Flight Manual is the final word.

[Burt Compton - Marfa Gliders, west Texas]

DRAG CHUTE: If still installed, contact me for my suggestions on how to pack it and use it.

I began flying an Open Cirrus in 1968 and practiced packing and using the drag chute for the inevitable cross-country off-airport landings to come.

Many first generation (Open Cirrus, Libelle 301, etc.) composite sailplanes were heavier compared to the last of the wooden ships (Ka-6, SHK.) Heavier means more energy (velocity) on the approach and a longer landing rollout. So pilots approached the relatively small fields in Europe using a drag chute.

Many sailplanes were damaged because unlike the airbrakes, a drag chute cannot be modulated.

All drag or none, IF it deploys.

Before the chute fully deploys (3 seconds), close and lock the airbrakes and get ready to find the jettison knob if coming up short of the landing area or unseen power lines. You do NOT want both the drag chute and airbrakes deployed as your sailplane will "drop in" hard.

Deploying the chute too early resulted in some landing short incidents while the pilot fumbled for the chute jettison knob. Manufacturers eliminated the drag chute from most subsequent designs except the ASW-12 which had no airbrakes for glide path control. The only modern sailplane that I know of with a drag chute is Dick Butler's big beautiful Concordia. Mr. Butler added the drag chute after his early flights in it.

If you want my complete file with SUGGESTIONS on using a drag chute, contact me.
Only my suggestions. Your sailplane Flight Manual is the final word.

[Frank Whiteley]

On Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 7:27:23 AM UTC-6, Burt Compton - Marfa Gliders, west Texas wrote:
> DRAG CHUTE: If still installed, contact me for my suggestions on how to pack it and use it.
>
> I began flying an Open Cirrus in 1968 and practiced packing and using the drag chute for the inevitable cross-country off-airport landings to come.
>
> Many first generation (Open Cirrus, Libelle 301, etc.) composite sailplanes were heavier compared to the last of the wooden ships (Ka-6, SHK.) Heavier means more energy (velocity) on the approach and a longer landing rollout. So pilots approached the relatively small fields in Europe using a drag chute.
>
> Many sailplanes were damaged because unlike the airbrakes, a drag chute cannot be modulated.
>
> All drag or none, IF it deploys.
>
> Before the chute fully deploys (3 seconds), close and lock the airbrakes and get ready to find the jettison knob if coming up short of the landing area or unseen power lines. You do NOT want both the drag chute and airbrakes deployed as your sailplane will "drop in" hard.
>
> Deploying the chute too early resulted in some landing short incidents while the pilot fumbled for the chute jettison knob. Manufacturers eliminated the drag chute from most subsequent designs except the ASW-12 which had no airbrakes for glide path control. The only modern sailplane that I know of with a drag chute is Dick Butler's big beautiful Concordia. Mr. Butler added the drag chute after his early flights in it.
>
> If you want my complete file with SUGGESTIONS on using a drag chute, contact me.
> Only my suggestions. Your sailplane Flight Manual is the final word.

A wet chute can freeze in place. If leaving a glider with a chute out overnight, dew can form on the glider and will run to the ground and into the chute and statics. My recommendation is to remove the chute and tent, not cover, the statics with tape.

Also check with the seller whether this Cirrus is German or VTC built. There are big differences.

Frank Whiteley

[Burt Compton - Marfa Gliders, west Texas]

> A wet chute can freeze in place. If leaving a glider with a chute out overnight, dew can form on the glider and will run to the ground and into the chute and statics. My recommendation is to remove the chute and tent, not cover, the statics with tape.
>
> Also check with the seller whether this Cirrus is German or VTC built. There are big differences.
>
> Frank Whiteley

Good advice! After deploying and on rollout I would jettison the drag chute to minimize ground damage and then hang it in my home or hangar until re-packing it into the container for my next flight. Hanging lets it unwrinkle and it stays dry.

[Paul T[_4_]]

At 13:58 01 October 2019, Burt Compton - Marfa Gliders, west Texas
wrote:
>
>> A wet chute can freeze in place. If leaving a glider with a chute out
>overnight, dew can form on the glider and will run to the ground and
into
>the chute and statics. My recommendation is to remove the chute
and tent,
>not cover, the statics with tape.
>>
>> Also check with the seller whether this Cirrus is German or VTC
built.
>There are big differences.
>>
>> Frank Whiteley
>
>Good advice! After deploying and on rollout I would jettison the drag
>chute to minimize ground damage and then hang it in my home or
hangar until
>re-packing it into the container for my next flight. Hanging lets it
>unwrinkle and it stays dry.
>
In my experience the Open Cirrus has reasonable airbrakes (i.e.
superior to the Open Libelle, Phoebus C, and SHK) that the drag chute
isn't really that necessary - only if you had really made a pigs ear of
your field landing selection would you need it.

[Geoff Minors]

On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 11:27:49 AM UTC-6, Geoff Minors wrote:
> Just seeing if there is any interest in my Open Cirrus?
> Located in Alberta.
> Price US$13,000
> Glider is in good shape. Trailer is a bit ugly needs some work but towable.
> I can send pics on request.
>
> I just don't get the opportunity to fly it as I seem to be always in the back seat instructing.
> I will do a walk around video this weekend and post it on youtube.

The drag chute has been removed.
Made in Germany
Listed on Wings and Wheels now