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March 5th 05, 05:29 AM
Israel has demands for Syria, including dismantling Hezbolla

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Cub Driver
March 5th 05, 10:08 AM
Given that much of the world is piling onto Assad right now, Israel
should let Bush do the heavy lifting. He has proved remarkably adept
at it. Not since the Soviet Union imploded have we seen such changes
in a part of the world that was closed up tight.

Crikey, even Schroeder and Chirac are climbing on board the bandwagon.


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old hoodoo
March 5th 05, 05:38 PM
Cub Driver wrote:

> Given that much of the world is piling onto Assad right now, Israel
> should let Bush do the heavy lifting. He has proved remarkably adept
> at it. Not since the Soviet Union imploded have we seen such changes
> in a part of the world that was closed up tight.
>
> Crikey, even Schroeder and Chirac are climbing on board the bandwagon.
>
>
> -- all the best, Dan Ford
>
> email (put Cubdriver in subject line)
>
> Warbird's Forum: www.warbirdforum.com
> Piper Cub Forum: www.pipercubforum.com
> the blog: www.danford.net


I would suggest that regardless of some positive things (perhaps more
perception than reality as the pendelum never stops swinging) going on
in the middle east today, that there are also some seeds for future
trouble being sown.

No one predicted that 9/11 would occur as a consequence of the Gulf War.

Jarg
March 6th 05, 12:00 AM
"old hoodoo" > wrote in message
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> I would suggest that regardless of some positive things (perhaps more
> perception than reality as the pendelum never stops swinging) going on in
> the middle east today, that there are also some seeds for future trouble
> being sown.
>
> No one predicted that 9/11 would occur as a consequence of the Gulf War.
>
>

What an incredibly negative attitude.

Jarg

old hoodoo
March 6th 05, 07:41 AM
Jarg wrote:

> "old hoodoo" > wrote in message
> news:08mWd.2995$Ru.265@okepread06...
>
>>I would suggest that regardless of some positive things (perhaps more
>>perception than reality as the pendelum never stops swinging) going on in
>>the middle east today, that there are also some seeds for future trouble
>>being sown.
>>
>>No one predicted that 9/11 would occur as a consequence of the Gulf War.
>>
>>
>
>
> What an incredibly negative attitude.
>
> Jarg
>

I tend to think about the little guy who gets screwed no matter who
wins. Every time the boat gets rocked, its the little people who fall
in the water.

Jarg
March 6th 05, 08:40 AM
"old hoodoo" > wrote in message
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>
>
> Jarg wrote:
>
>> "old hoodoo" > wrote in message
>> news:08mWd.2995$Ru.265@okepread06...
>>
>>>I would suggest that regardless of some positive things (perhaps more
>>>perception than reality as the pendelum never stops swinging) going on in
>>>the middle east today, that there are also some seeds for future trouble
>>>being sown.
>>>
>>>No one predicted that 9/11 would occur as a consequence of the Gulf War.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> What an incredibly negative attitude.
>>
>> Jarg
>
> I tend to think about the little guy who gets screwed no matter who wins.
> Every time the boat gets rocked, its the little people who fall
> in the water.
>

How very empathetic of you.

Jarg

Noah Little
March 6th 05, 11:30 AM
old hoodoo wrote:
> I tend to think about the little guy who gets screwed no matter who
> wins. Every time the boat gets rocked, its the little people who fall
> in the water.

The most helpful thing you can do for the "little people" is not to be
one of them.

old hoodoo
March 6th 05, 06:56 PM
Jarg wrote:

> "old hoodoo" > wrote in message
> news:huyWd.3073$Ru.2769@okepread06...
>
>>
>>Jarg wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"old hoodoo" > wrote in message
>>>news:08mWd.2995$Ru.265@okepread06...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would suggest that regardless of some positive things (perhaps more
>>>>perception than reality as the pendelum never stops swinging) going on in
>>>>the middle east today, that there are also some seeds for future trouble
>>>>being sown.
>>>>
>>>>No one predicted that 9/11 would occur as a consequence of the Gulf War.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>What an incredibly negative attitude.
>>>
>>>Jarg
>>
>>I tend to think about the little guy who gets screwed no matter who wins.
>>Every time the boat gets rocked, its the little people who fall
>>in the water.
>>
>
>
> How very empathetic of you.
>
> Jarg
>

Thanks!

old hoodoo
March 6th 05, 10:13 PM
Noah Little wrote:
> old hoodoo wrote:
>
>>I tend to think about the little guy who gets screwed no matter who
>>wins. Every time the boat gets rocked, its the little people who fall
>>in the water.
>
>
> The most helpful thing you can do for the "little people" is not to be
> one of them.


Wishful thinking. The overwhelming majority of people in the world are
little people, even the folks that post on these newsgroups who think
what they post really has some impact on the world. These people have no
power to change the world around them...just spectators.

That doesn't abrograte the responsibility of those who become the movers
and the shakers...and the boat rockers. There are some movers and
shakers who are responsible, other reckless, while others are us
downright evil...but what I hate most is the hypocrisy...they never take
the blame for the bad stuff, they just take the bows when things work out.

All I am saying is that when things move (or are pushed) fast they tend
to move violently, and its innocents who suffer the most.

While movement is inevitable and things are going to change, I am not
going to jump up and down in celebration while things are going good
because I know that there is going to be a repercussion somewhere...the
same goes for bad things, I am not going to be wallowing in despair
either.

Noah Little
March 6th 05, 11:20 PM
old hoodoo wrote:
> Noah Little wrote:
>> old hoodoo wrote:
>>> I tend to think about the little guy who gets screwed no matter who
>>> wins. Every time the boat gets rocked, its the little people who fall
>>> in the water.
>>
>> The most helpful thing you can do for the "little people" is not to be
>> one of them.
>
> Wishful thinking. The overwhelming majority of people in the world are
> little people, even the folks that post on these newsgroups who think
> what they post really has some impact on the world. These people have no
> power to change the world around them...just spectators.
>
> That doesn't abrograte the responsibility of those who become the movers
> and the shakers...and the boat rockers. There are some movers and
> shakers who are responsible, other reckless, while others are us
> downright evil...but what I hate most is the hypocrisy...they never take
> the blame for the bad stuff, they just take the bows when things work out.

You really miss my point. The best thing you could do for the "little
people" is to be a mover and shaker, and put into practice the things
you espouse. But candidly, you sound too imbued with negativity to
become one.
--
Noah

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