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October 9th 19, 10:24 AM
I'm looking for AR4201 radio for sale.

Any Offer for me? Please contact me at
Thanks
Aviram

Steve Bralla
October 11th 19, 12:54 AM
On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 2:24:24 AM UTC-7, avira...@ wrote:
> I'm looking for AR4201 radio for sale.
>
> Any Offer for me? Please contact me at
> Thanks
> Aviram

There is now a 4201 listed on Glider Source http://glidersource.com/index.shtml

October 11th 19, 05:49 AM
Please see this first...
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2004/05/20/04-11410/airworthiness-directives-becker-flugfunkwerk-gmbh-ar-4201-vhf-am-transceivers

John Foster
October 11th 19, 04:34 PM
On Thursday, October 10, 2019 at 10:49:42 PM UTC-6, wrote:
> Please see this first...
> https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2004/05/20/04-11410/airworthiness-directives-becker-flugfunkwerk-gmbh-ar-4201-vhf-am-transceivers

First of all, this is from 2004, and is a PROPOSED rule. Does anyone know what the final decision on this is?

Second, the PROPOSED AD would read:

(g) If the transceiver has an affected SN, and does not have Change Index 02 or higher index number marked on it, do the following:
(1) Add an aircraft flight manual (AFM) limitation to the Limitations Section of the AFM, that restricts transceiver usage to VFR operations, and add a placard to the cockpit within view of the pilot that states, in 1/4 inch-high or higher characters, “Use of Becker Comm Equipment AR 4201 is restricted to VFR operations”; or

(2) Remove the transceiver from service.

Pretty much all glider flying is under VFR, so if I read this correctly, all you'd need to do would be to add the above text to the POH/AFM under the limitations section, and carry on.

Steve Leonard[_2_]
October 11th 19, 05:34 PM
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 10:34:42 AM UTC-5, John Foster wrote:
>
> First of all, this is from 2004, and is a PROPOSED rule. Does anyone know what the final decision on this is?
>
The AD was enacted as proposed.

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAD.nsf/0/fd19ce6bc6c0b3b986256f2e0050819c/$FILE/042104.pdf

Steve Leonard

krasw
October 12th 19, 08:17 AM
Are you serious? Maybe you should also stay away of any aircraft that had an AD in it's history?

November 14th 19, 12:54 AM
On Saturday, October 12, 2019 at 12:17:48 AM UTC-7, krasw wrote:
> Are you serious? Maybe you should also stay away of any aircraft that had an AD in it's history?

If you read the AD, it states:

(h) After the effective date of this AD, do not install any Becker Flugfunkwerk GmbH AR 4201 VHF AM transceiver with an affected SN that does not have Change Index 02 or higher index number marked on it, unless it was removed to determine the SN or to check for Change Index 02 or higher index number..

So I think the concern is quite relevant. Even if you are VFR only, according to the AD, it should not be installed after the AD date.

Dave Nadler
November 17th 19, 11:11 PM
On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 12:34:23 PM UTC-4, Steve Leonard wrote:
> On Friday, October 11, 2019 at 10:34:42 AM UTC-5, John Foster wrote:
> >
> > First of all, this is from 2004, and is a PROPOSED rule. Does anyone know what the final decision on this is?
> >
> The AD was enacted as proposed.
>
> http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAD.nsf/0/fd19ce6bc6c0b3b986256f2e0050819c/$FILE/042104.pdf
>
> Steve Leonard

The AD says good units must have "Change Index 2" or greater.
Where is this "Change Index" marking?
Anybody have an example?

Thanks,
Best Regards, Dave

Duster[_2_]
November 18th 19, 12:24 AM
Dave,
Mine has “Change Index 01” Printed just beneath the serial number.

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