As if somebody was going to steal it

[Happy Dog]

Maybe someone can explain the need for this:

"Within minutes of Riar (the pilot) being handed the memo, a scene from a
Hollywood thriller unfolded. White Ford Broncos from the Greater Toronto
Airports Authority zoomed onto the tarmac, encircling his jet and others in
the Jetsgo fleet. The company, as it was doing at airports across Canada,
was safeguarding its biggest assets, 14 Boeing MD-83 and 15 Fokker 100 jets,
an aging fleet of leased and purchased planes."

http://makeashorterlink.com/?B104211BA

The plane was parked at the gate.

moo

[Icebound]

"Happy Dog" > wrote in message
...
> Maybe someone can explain the need for this:
>
> "Within minutes of Riar (the pilot) being handed the memo, a scene from a
> Hollywood thriller unfolded. White Ford Broncos from the Greater Toronto
> Airports Authority zoomed onto the tarmac, encircling his jet and others
> in the Jetsgo fleet. The company, as it was doing at airports across
> Canada, was safeguarding its biggest assets, 14 Boeing MD-83 and 15 Fokker
> 100 jets, an aging fleet of leased and purchased planes."
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?B104211BA
>
> The plane was parked at the gate.
>


....I believe the security is to prevent chaos.

Otherwise organizations like the Ottawa Airport, owed hundreds of thousands
in fees, would attempt to descend on the planes with claims and try to seize
them in lieu of payment.

[John Galban]

Happy Dog wrote:
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?B104211BA
>

From the article : "Hill was still planning for the future, flying
home after a three-day flight simulator course in Miami, where he'd
practised emergency landing techniques in case a jet engine burst into
flames."

Those journalists can't help themselves, can they. Even a story
about a bankrupt airline has to have mythical engines bursting into
flames. Sheesh!

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)

[Brian Burger]

On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, John Galban wrote:

>
> Happy Dog wrote:
> >
> > http://makeashorterlink.com/?B104211BA
> >
>
> From the article : "Hill was still planning for the future, flying
> home after a three-day flight simulator course in Miami, where he'd
> practised emergency landing techniques in case a jet engine burst into
> flames."
>
> Those journalists can't help themselves, can they. Even a story
> about a bankrupt airline has to have mythical engines bursting into
> flames. Sheesh!

The writing in that article was pretty shoddy all around, IMNSHO. Apart
from the HTML formatting errors - all those extra question marks - the
article seemed pretty cliched (flaming engines & all) and awkward.

I don't know anything about the Toronto Star, but I hope the rest of their
writing is better than this example!

Brian

[[email protected]]

On 17 Mar 2005 11:39:45 -0800, "John Galban" >
wrote:

snip

> From the article : "Hill was still planning for the future, flying
>home after a three-day flight simulator course in Miami, where he'd
>practised emergency landing techniques in case a jet engine burst into
>flames."
>
> Those journalists can't help themselves, can they. Even a story
>about a bankrupt airline has to have mythical engines bursting into
>flames. Sheesh!

I thought the article was a little weak, as well. But, if you've
spent any amount of time in a simulator, you wouldn't question the
"burst into flames" part.

After my first stint in a sim, the instructor asked me what I thought.
I told him I thought I'd like to strangle the people that had been
maintaining the POS plane I was flying.

Multiple system failures and engine fires are SOP during sim training.

TC

[Happy Dog]

"Icebound" >
>> The plane was parked at the gate.

> ...I believe the security is to prevent chaos.
>
> Otherwise organizations like the Ottawa Airport, owed hundreds of
> thousands in fees, would attempt to descend on the planes with claims and
> try to seize them in lieu of payment.

In Toronto? And, how does the party wishing to seize the plane get onto the
ramp of any international airport? It seems that a single security guard or
police officer would suffice.

moo

[Stefan]

wrote:

> Multiple system failures and engine fires are SOP during sim training.

After all, that's what the sim is for (besides economy): To train
situations which you wouldn't want to train in a real airplane.

Stefan

[Paul Tomblin]

In a previous article, Brian Burger > said:
>The writing in that article was pretty shoddy all around, IMNSHO. Apart
>from the HTML formatting errors - all those extra question marks - the
>article seemed pretty cliched (flaming engines & all) and awkward.

The extra question marks just mean that it was written in a Microsoft tool
and you're smart enough not to use a Microsoft browser. Like everything
else in the Microsoft world, their character set is non-standard.


--
Paul Tomblin > http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
Why don't companies make second-person shooter games? I mean, we
have first-person, and third-person. Why not second-person?
-- Joe Moore

[C J Campbell]

"Happy Dog" > wrote in message
...
> Maybe someone can explain the need for this:
>
> "Within minutes of Riar (the pilot) being handed the memo, a scene from a
> Hollywood thriller unfolded. White Ford Broncos from the Greater Toronto
> Airports Authority zoomed onto the tarmac, encircling his jet and others
in
> the Jetsgo fleet.

So, how many Broncos were there? Was OJ driving one of them?

Anyway, yes, in a bankruptcy it is important to stake your claim in seizing
the planes before some other creditor does. They could indeed be stolen. In
fact, airliners have been stolen by creditors before -- flown right off the
field.

[kage]

"Stefan" > wrote in message
...
> wrote:
>
>> Multiple system failures and engine fires are SOP during sim training.
>
> After all, that's what the sim is for (besides economy): To train
> situations which you wouldn't want to train in a real airplane.
>
> Stefan

To a degree that is true. However, Flightsafety is not allowed to do that to
initial or recurrent customers during normal training.

Sometimes there is some spare time left over and the customer can request
multiple failures. Or the customer can request approaches into some of the
more difficult airports on the planet.

What CAN happen is a failure, then a botched attempt by the crew to fix the
failure. The crew can create there own secondary failures. The ride can go
rapidly go down hill from there. But the instructor only lets you dig your
own grave, he doesn't actively push multiple failure buttons.

Karl
DA-50EX

[Happy Dog]

"C J Campbell" >

> Anyway, yes, in a bankruptcy it is important to stake your claim in
> seizing
> the planes before some other creditor does. They could indeed be stolen.
> In
> fact, airliners have been stolen by creditors before -- flown right off
> the
> field.

A single guard or cop could prevent this.

"Stolen"? Someone took off from an international airport without clearance?

moo

[John Galban]

C J Campbell wrote:
>
> Anyway, yes, in a bankruptcy it is important to stake your claim in
seizing
> the planes before some other creditor does. They could indeed be
stolen. In
> fact, airliners have been stolen by creditors before -- flown right
off the
> field.

I'm not sure how the bankruptcy system works in Canada, but it seems
to me that there must be a more orderly process. Unless the entity
doing the seizing actually owns the aircraft (i.e. leased to the
bankrupt corp.), I can't imagine that they could go around seizing
property that does not belong to them. If that were the case,
creditors could loot the assets of a bankrupt company on a first-come,
first served basis.

I know it doesn't work like that in the U.S. Here, you stake your
claim in bankruptcy court along with all of the other creditors.

John Galban=====>N4BQ (PA28-180)