AN hardware CAD files

[Leon McAtee]

Is there an online source of downloadable CAD files for common AN
hardware? I don't see any reason to redraw what I'm sure has been
done many times.
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Leon McAtee

[B2431]

>From: (Leon McAtee)
>Date: 9/7/2004 10:17 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Is there an online source of downloadable CAD files for common AN
>hardware? I don't see any reason to redraw what I'm sure has been
>done many times.
>=========================
>Leon McAtee

I use MicroStation. Several years ago I made cels of each AN bolt, washer an
nut. With the nut and washers you only have to draw one of each type the scale
as needed. With the bolts draw one of each length of a given size and scale as
needed to the desired size.

It's easy to set up a cel file for each type of item and in each size.

It will take an hour or two depending on your skill, but it really is worth it.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[smjmitchell]

There are some commercial libraries but you have to buy them.

For many other types of hardware you can download the files from the
hardware manufacturers web sites (usually for free) but not for any AN
hardware that I am aware of.

Dan is right though ... it is no big deal to draw them (I have done this for
some hardware). They don't have to be perfect so long as the overal
dimensions are correct. If you are going to do this you first need to get
the AN / MS data sheets which have all the required dimensions. You can get
these from the STINET site. http://stinet.dtic.mil/str/index.html



"B2431" > wrote in message
...
> >From: (Leon McAtee)
> >Date: 9/7/2004 10:17 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >Is there an online source of downloadable CAD files for common AN
> >hardware? I don't see any reason to redraw what I'm sure has been
> >done many times.
> >=========================
> >Leon McAtee
>
> I use MicroStation. Several years ago I made cels of each AN bolt, washer
an
> nut. With the nut and washers you only have to draw one of each type the
scale
> as needed. With the bolts draw one of each length of a given size and
scale as
> needed to the desired size.
>
> It's easy to set up a cel file for each type of item and in each size.
>
> It will take an hour or two depending on your skill, but it really is
worth it.
>
> Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

[Pierre]

Thanks for the link, (i was happy there for a while, as I've been looking
for this type of data for quite some time) although there seems to be a
problem.

- Very hard to find the information
- Once the report required has been found I get a:
"You have attempted to access a page without proper authorization"

Hmmm, too bad, it would really have been great to have access to the actual
mil-specs...


"smjmitchell" > wrote in message
u...
> There are some commercial libraries but you have to buy them.
>
> For many other types of hardware you can download the files from the
> hardware manufacturers web sites (usually for free) but not for any AN
> hardware that I am aware of.
>
> Dan is right though ... it is no big deal to draw them (I have done this
for
> some hardware). They don't have to be perfect so long as the overal
> dimensions are correct. If you are going to do this you first need to get
> the AN / MS data sheets which have all the required dimensions. You can
get
> these from the STINET site. http://stinet.dtic.mil/str/index.html
>
>
>
> "B2431" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >From: (Leon McAtee)
> > >Date: 9/7/2004 10:17 PM Central Daylight Time
> > >Message-id: >
> > >
> > >Is there an online source of downloadable CAD files for common AN
> > >hardware? I don't see any reason to redraw what I'm sure has been
> > >done many times.
> > >=========================
> > >Leon McAtee
> >
> > I use MicroStation. Several years ago I made cels of each AN bolt,
washer
> an
> > nut. With the nut and washers you only have to draw one of each type the
> scale
> > as needed. With the bolts draw one of each length of a given size and
> scale as
> > needed to the desired size.
> >
> > It's easy to set up a cel file for each type of item and in each size.
> >
> > It will take an hour or two depending on your skill, but it really is
> worth it.
> >
> > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
>
>

[Rich S.]

IIRC, Mr. Wanttaja has a story about drawing AN bolts and some peculiar head
markings.

How 'bout an encore, Ron?

Rich

[Craig]

"Pierre" > wrote in message >...
> Thanks for the link, (i was happy there for a while, as I've been looking
> for this type of data for quite some time) although there seems to be a
> problem.
>
> - Very hard to find the information
> - Once the report required has been found I get a:
> "You have attempted to access a page without proper authorization"
>
> Hmmm, too bad, it would really have been great to have access to the actual
> mil-specs...


Which ones do you need? I've got a fairly good number of them in my
hard files here at the house.

Craig C.

[Leon McAtee]

"smjmitchell" > wrote in message >...
> There are some commercial libraries but you have to buy them.
>
> For many other types of hardware you can download the files from the
> hardware manufacturers web sites (usually for free) but not for any AN
> hardware that I am aware of.
>
> Dan is right though ... it is no big deal to draw them (I have done this for
> some hardware).

I've begun the task of drawing the basics - as I need them. There
must be a "gazillion" different nuts out there, or it seems that way.
Once I get a good batch of files I'll post them on my web site for
download. No reason not to share.

CAD is something that I'm glad I taught myself. Slow at first, but
now, it really saves time and material. The reason for needing
hardware drawings was to make sure I had room to actually get a socket
on my aileron hinge mounts. Nice to know that there will be room
before mixing up the resin. There was! :-)

Also being able to print accurate full size templates takes a lot of
the work out of making things. Not a big deal if you follow the
plans, but if you venture as far out in the Experimental part of our
hobby as I have............

If you've never used CAD - Learn. Do a Google for DeltaCad for a good
first CAD program (free download). So simple I bet that even someone
that flunked geometry can make useable drawings in less than a 1/2
hour.
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Leon McAtee
Still looking for Aeronca C-3 factory drawings.

[Cy Galley]

Have you tried John Houser?

"Leon McAtee" > wrote in message
om...
> "smjmitchell" > wrote in message
>...
> > There are some commercial libraries but you have to buy them.
> >
> > For many other types of hardware you can download the files from the
> > hardware manufacturers web sites (usually for free) but not for any AN
> > hardware that I am aware of.
> >
> > Dan is right though ... it is no big deal to draw them (I have done this
for
> > some hardware).
>
> I've begun the task of drawing the basics - as I need them. There
> must be a "gazillion" different nuts out there, or it seems that way.
> Once I get a good batch of files I'll post them on my web site for
> download. No reason not to share.
>
> CAD is something that I'm glad I taught myself. Slow at first, but
> now, it really saves time and material. The reason for needing
> hardware drawings was to make sure I had room to actually get a socket
> on my aileron hinge mounts. Nice to know that there will be room
> before mixing up the resin. There was! :-)
>
> Also being able to print accurate full size templates takes a lot of
> the work out of making things. Not a big deal if you follow the
> plans, but if you venture as far out in the Experimental part of our
> hobby as I have............
>
> If you've never used CAD - Learn. Do a Google for DeltaCad for a good
> first CAD program (free download). So simple I bet that even someone
> that flunked geometry can make useable drawings in less than a 1/2
> hour.
> ====================
> Leon McAtee
> Still looking for Aeronca C-3 factory drawings.

[QDurham]

>> > For many other types of hardware you can download the files from the
>> > hardware manufacturers web sites (usually for free) but not for any AN
>> > hardware that I am aware of.

Go get an Aircraft Spruce catalog.

Quent

[Pierre]

It`s be nice to have the most commen type of hardware complete spec sitting
in a binder on a shelf just for when I need it.

The first thing that comes to mind is the thickness of bolt heads and nuts
(bolt length and grip length is in all catalogs but thickness of heads is
another story) i.e. MS21042, AN354 and AN365, etc.
Anchor nuts would be nice as well.
The idea is that when I`m making a drawing, I don`t need the intricate
details of the nut shape, but it`d be nice to know how thick it is (short of
buying one of each and measuring one myself!)

Also, strength values is not typically in catalogs. That would be nice to
have

Thanks for any help

"Craig" > wrote in message
om...
> "Pierre" > wrote in message
>...
> > Thanks for the link, (i was happy there for a while, as I've been
looking
> > for this type of data for quite some time) although there seems to be a
> > problem.
> >
> > - Very hard to find the information
> > - Once the report required has been found I get a:
> > "You have attempted to access a page without proper authorization"
> >
> > Hmmm, too bad, it would really have been great to have access to the
actual
> > mil-specs...
>
>
> Which ones do you need? I've got a fairly good number of them in my
> hard files here at the house.
>
> Craig C.
>

[Bingo]

I got a catalog from Genuine Aircraft Hardware® that has all the dimensions
for the latest hardware. Of course, you will have to build your own
library, but what else do you have to do that is more important?
:-)
Jim


"Leon McAtee" > wrote in message
om...
> Is there an online source of downloadable CAD files for common AN
> hardware? I don't see any reason to redraw what I'm sure has been
> done many times.
> =========================
> Leon McAtee

[QDurham]

>> Is there an online source of downloadable CAD files for common AN
>> hardware?

Try TA Shulgin Co, Martinez CA (415) 228-2512. Or Van Dusen Aircraft
Supplies, about 20 centers around the US, home office is in Minneapolis MN
55420, (612) 866-867

Quent.

[Leon McAtee]

"Cy Galley" > wrote in message news:<u370d.15204$D%.665@attbi_s51>...
> Have you tried John Houser?

> > Leon McAtee
> > Still looking for Aeronca C-3 factory drawings.

Actually, no. I'd heard through the grapevine that he only had back to
the K. But I guess I really should send him a letter (also heard he
doesn't do Internet) but I don't have his address right now.

If I ever find any they will be redone in CAD :-)
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Leon McAtee