Charley Noble???

[babygrand]

Any of you really crusty old salts know what a Charley Noble is? I heard
this term the other day from an "ancient mariner", and I hadn't heard it
since 1965, brought back some real good memories. Any one care to take a
crack? Also, anyone know the origin of the term?

babygrand
VP-22

[Red Rider]

"babygrand" > wrote in message
. ..
> Any of you really crusty old salts know what a Charley Noble is? I heard
> this term the other day from an "ancient mariner", and I hadn't heard it
> since 1965, brought back some real good memories. Any one care to take a
> crack? Also, anyone know the origin of the term?
>
> babygrand
> VP-22

I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.
I know.

But shouldn't it be who "Charley Noble" is?

As in, "Seaman (or Mister) go find Charley Noble and tell him to report
to______ on the double!"

Its too early to revel his identity. Lets wait until tomorrow and see how
many know.

Red

[John Miller]

babygrand wrote:
> Any of you really crusty old salts know what a Charley Noble is? I heard
> this term the other day from an "ancient mariner", and I hadn't heard it
> since 1965, brought back some real good memories. Any one care to take a
> crack? Also, anyone know the origin of the term?

Wow, that *is* a trip down memory lane. Won't give it away, but will
mention that it got its name from 19th century (British) Capt. Noble,
who demanded polish.

--
John Miller, mustang
email domain: n4vu.com; username: jsm(@)

[Diamond Jim]

"John Miller" > wrote in message
...
> babygrand wrote:
> > Any of you really crusty old salts know what a Charley Noble is? I heard
> > this term the other day from an "ancient mariner", and I hadn't heard it
> > since 1965, brought back some real good memories. Any one care to take
a
> > crack? Also, anyone know the origin of the term?
>
> Wow, that *is* a trip down memory lane. Won't give it away, but will
> mention that it got its name from 19th century (British) Capt. Noble,
> who demanded polish.

You forgot the "spit" that goes with that!

I wonder how many of you have ever seen a "Sea Bat"?

[John Miller]

Diamond Jim wrote:
> I wonder how many of you have ever seen a "Sea Bat"?

Or worse, been bit by one...

--
John Miller
email domain: n4vu.com; username: jsm(@)

[Greasy Rider© @invalid.com]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:55:51 -0600, "babygrand"
> postulated :
>Any of you really crusty old salts know what a Charley Noble is? I heard
>this term the other day from an "ancient mariner", and I hadn't heard it
>since 1965, brought back some real good memories. Any one care to take a
>crack? Also, anyone know the origin of the term?
>
>babygrand
>VP-22
>
Google takes the fun out of everything...

[Yofuri]

babygrand wrote:
> Any of you really crusty old salts know what a Charley Noble is? I heard
> this term the other day from an "ancient mariner", and I hadn't heard it
> since 1965, brought back some real good memories. Any one care to take a
> crack? Also, anyone know the origin of the term?
>
> babygrand
> VP-22
>
>
When I last saw Charley, I was working for the Jack o' the Dust.

Rick

[JJ McIntyre]

The Galley smokestack. See
http://www.ussconstitution.navy.mil/CharlieNoble.htm

[T Bird]

The Jack of the dust . Shine the ships Bell , Ashes make a good Shine .
When I was on USS Bausell DD-845 we had a snipe , His name was Charles
Noble MM1 . Around 72 , Yokosuka .

[Red Rider]

"wdossel" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:10:06 GMT, John Miller > wrote:
>
> >Diamond Jim wrote:
> >> I wonder how many of you have ever seen a "Sea Bat"?
> >
> >Or worse, been bit by one...
> I *was* one (from 89-91) w/VAW-127 Seabats
> Will Dossel
> Last of the Steeljaws (VAW-122)

No! nine! nyet! nonka! hell no! Wrong kind of a seabat. He is talking about
the kind that hitched a ride out to the ship and you just found hiding in
your aircraft. <grin> Of course if the blackshoe (preferably the ships Lt),
wanted to see him he would have to bend over and carefully peak into the box
with letting the seabat escape.

[Harry Andreas]

In article >, "JJ McIntyre"
> wrote:

> The Galley smokestack. See
> http://www.ussconstitution.navy.mil/CharlieNoble.htm

Surely it's pointing the wrong way?

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

[Mike Kanze]

That only matters if you are below in the galley.

--
Mike Kanze

"You're never too old to become younger."

- Mae West


"Harry Andreas" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "JJ McIntyre"
> > wrote:
>
>> The Galley smokestack. See
>> http://www.ussconstitution.navy.mil/CharlieNoble.htm
>
> Surely it's pointing the wrong way?
>
> --
> Harry Andreas
> Engineering raconteur

[babygrand]

I learned what a Charlie Noble was (and several hundred other salty tidbits)
from Chief Zentz. If any of you ever met him, you know he had to be the
crustiest SOB that ever went to sea. Chief Zentz was about 5'6" tall, and
about 5'6" in diameter, probably 350 pounds, and had eight or nine hash
marks on his dress blues, the only E-9 Master Chief I ever came across.
When I joined my squadron in Sangley Point, P.I., he already had 36 years
in, and chalked up another two before I left. (That was in 1965, so you know
he had some terrific WWII stories).
I learned early on that Chief Zentz made out the watch list, and that he
LOVED donuts from the galley, so... every morning when I picked up the
flight crews box lunches for the morning hops, I managed to leave a dozen
steaming hot ones on his desk, and I made sure he knew who had brought them.
He'd give me 2 and eat the other 10 himself. I still drew a few watches, but
none of the midnight to 4 AM crap.

Chief Zentz had a temper to match his girth. I think he probably inspired
the old brown shoe saying "I just safety-wired the chief into the ****ed off
position".

babygrand


"John Miller" > wrote in message
...
> babygrand wrote:
> > Any of you really crusty old salts know what a Charley Noble is? I heard
> > this term the other day from an "ancient mariner", and I hadn't heard it
> > since 1965, brought back some real good memories. Any one care to take
a
> > crack? Also, anyone know the origin of the term?
>
> Wow, that *is* a trip down memory lane. Won't give it away, but will
> mention that it got its name from 19th century (British) Capt. Noble,
> who demanded polish.
>
> --
> John Miller, mustang
> email domain: n4vu.com; username: jsm(@)

[Diamond Jim]

"Mike Kanze" > wrote in message
...
> That only matters if you are below in the galley.
>
> --
> Mike Kanze
>
> "You're never too old to become younger."
>
> - Mae West
>
>
> "Harry Andreas" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, "JJ McIntyre"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> The Galley smokestack. See
> >> http://www.ussconstitution.navy.mil/CharlieNoble.htm
> >
> > Surely it's pointing the wrong way?
> >
> > --
> > Harry Andreas
> > Engineering raconteur
>
What are you? Landlubbers? Its a sailing ship! The wind goes from the stern
(the back end) to the bow (the front end)

[Noah Little]

Diamond Jim wrote:
> What are you? Landlubbers? Its a sailing ship! The wind goes from the stern
> (the back end) to the bow (the front end)

Spoken like a lifetime power boater. On a sailing vessel, the wind can
be from ahead or abaft the beam.

[Harry Andreas]

In article >, "Diamond
Jim" > wrote:

> "Mike Kanze" > wrote in message
> ...
> > That only matters if you are below in the galley.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Kanze
> >
> > "You're never too old to become younger."
> >
> > - Mae West
> >
> >
> > "Harry Andreas" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > In article >, "JJ McIntyre"
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> The Galley smokestack. See
> > >> http://www.ussconstitution.navy.mil/CharlieNoble.htm
> > >
> > > Surely it's pointing the wrong way?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Harry Andreas
> > > Engineering raconteur
> >
> What are you? Landlubbers? Its a sailing ship! The wind goes from the stern
> (the back end) to the bow (the front end)

I know that. It looks to me like it's pointed astern.
Hence my comment.

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

[Gord Beaman]

"Diamond Jim" > wrote:

>
>"Mike Kanze" > wrote in message
...
>> That only matters if you are below in the galley.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Kanze
>>
>> "You're never too old to become younger."
>>
>> - Mae West
>>
>>
>> "Harry Andreas" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >, "JJ McIntyre"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> The Galley smokestack. See
>> >> http://www.ussconstitution.navy.mil/CharlieNoble.htm
>> >
>> > Surely it's pointing the wrong way?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Harry Andreas
>> > Engineering raconteur
>>
>What are you? Landlubbers? Its a sailing ship! The wind goes from the stern
>(the back end) to the bow (the front end)
>
Of course, one would suppose that there's several red faces
hereabouts eh wot? :)
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

[Gord Beaman]

Noah Little > wrote:

>Diamond Jim wrote:
>> What are you? Landlubbers? Its a sailing ship! The wind goes from the stern
>> (the back end) to the bow (the front end)
>
>Spoken like a lifetime power boater. On a sailing vessel, the wind can
>be from ahead or abaft the beam.

True of course, but when one must make a choice then one chooses
the most likely choice I suppose...harrumph...
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

[Diamond Jim]

"Noah Little" > wrote in message
...
> Diamond Jim wrote:
> > What are you? Landlubbers? Its a sailing ship! The wind goes from the
stern
> > (the back end) to the bow (the front end)
>
> Spoken like a lifetime power boater. On a sailing vessel, the wind can
> be from ahead or abaft the beam.

Most navy ships were square rigged, and didn't do much sailing against the
wind.

However several of us were discussing this last night, and one guy who used
to be at the Marine Barracks Boston, (Charleston Naval Shipyard) was very
familiar with the USS Constitution. He had even participated in
re-enactments on her and was part of the Marine detachment (in the rigging)
on the annual turn around. He said that the 'Charley Noble' rotated 360º,
presumably because of the wind factor.

[Ogden Johnson III]

Gord Beaman > wrote:

>>What are you? Landlubbers? Its a sailing ship! The wind goes from the stern
>>(the back end) to the bow (the front end)

>Of course, one would suppose that there's several red faces
>hereabouts eh wot? :)

Why, pray tell, Gord?

This is r.*aviation*.m.n.

a) I challenge you to name one sailing vessel which ever
operated aircraft [excepting, if needed, the possible usage of
tethered balloons in the War of Northern Aggression].

b) Pilots have never /really/ been expected to know anything
about ships but enough smarts and lingo to get them from their
stateroom to the wardroom to the ready room to the flight deck.
And vice-versa. Anything beyond that, a pilot puts himself
[herself] at gross hazard of assignment to a non-flying billet on
a bird farm. Which, unless one is bucking for CVN Captain, is a
fate worse than death.
--
OJ III
[Email to Yahoo address may be burned before reading.
Lower and crunch the sig and you'll net me at comcast.]

[Gord Beaman]

Ogden Johnson III > wrote:

>Gord Beaman > wrote:
>
>>>What are you? Landlubbers? Its a sailing ship! The wind goes from the stern
>>>(the back end) to the bow (the front end)
>
>>Of course, one would suppose that there's several red faces
>>hereabouts eh wot? :)
>
>Why, pray tell, Gord?
>
>This is r.*aviation*.m.n.
>
>a) I challenge you to name one sailing vessel which ever
>operated aircraft [excepting, if needed, the possible usage of
>tethered balloons in the War of Northern Aggression].
>
>b) Pilots have never /really/ been expected to know anything
>about ships but enough smarts and lingo to get them from their
>stateroom to the wardroom to the ready room to the flight deck.
>And vice-versa. Anything beyond that, a pilot puts himself
>[herself] at gross hazard of assignment to a non-flying billet on
>a bird farm. Which, unless one is bucking for CVN Captain, is a
>fate worse than death.

What you say is quite true Ogden. I merely state my opinion which
was derived from the many many times that I observed these
practically motionless floating objects as we flitted yonder and
forth looking (as befitted our station in life) down on the poor
envious stationary souls.
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

[Tank Fixer]

In article >,
on Tue, 22 Mar 2005 21:56:32 GMT,
Red Rider attempted to say .....

>
> "babygrand" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Any of you really crusty old salts know what a Charley Noble is? I heard
> > this term the other day from an "ancient mariner", and I hadn't heard it
> > since 1965, brought back some real good memories. Any one care to take a
> > crack? Also, anyone know the origin of the term?
> >
> > babygrand
> > VP-22
>
> I know.
> I know.
> I know.
> I know.
> I know.
>
> But shouldn't it be who "Charley Noble" is?
>
> As in, "Seaman (or Mister) go find Charley Noble and tell him to report
> to______ on the double!"
>
> Its too early to revel his identity. Lets wait until tomorrow and see how
> many know.
>

Ha, even this army guy is no dummy....

--
When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in
variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant.

[John Keeney]

"Ogden Johnson III" > wrote in message
...
> Gord Beaman > wrote:
>
> >>What are you? Landlubbers? Its a sailing ship! The wind goes from the
stern
> >>(the back end) to the bow (the front end)
>
> >Of course, one would suppose that there's several red faces
> >hereabouts eh wot? :)
>
> Why, pray tell, Gord?
>
> This is r.*aviation*.m.n.
>
> a) I challenge you to name one sailing vessel which ever
> operated aircraft [excepting, if needed, the possible usage of
> tethered balloons in the War of Northern Aggression].

While the Northerner's navy did use balloons for spotting
blockade runners, I believe they were operated from
barges. The barges were tended/protected/tolled by sailing
ships but the two kept that step apart.
All that rigging a sail requires kind of cuts down on the
open space a balloon requires to operate.

[Qui si parla Campagnolo]

Ogden Johnson III wrote:
> Gord Beaman > wrote:
>
>
>>>What are you? Landlubbers? Its a sailing ship! The wind goes from the stern
>>>(the back end) to the bow (the front end)
>
>
>>Of course, one would suppose that there's several red faces
>>hereabouts eh wot? :)
>
>
> Why, pray tell, Gord?
>
> This is r.*aviation*.m.n.
>
> a) I challenge you to name one sailing vessel which ever
> operated aircraft [excepting, if needed, the possible usage of
> tethered balloons in the War of Northern Aggression].
>
> b) Pilots have never /really/ been expected to know anything
> about ships but enough smarts and lingo to get them from their
> stateroom to the wardroom to the ready room to the flight deck.
> And vice-versa. Anything beyond that, a pilot puts himself
> [herself] at gross hazard of assignment to a non-flying billet on
> a bird farm. Which, unless one is bucking for CVN Captain, is a
> fate worse than death.

Hear! hear!, they make shoes a different color for a reason!!