US - State Record question - handicapping

[Mike Johnson]

When flying a US state record attempt for speed, I
understand that the achieved speed is handicapped. My
question is whether the minimum distance for that speed
record is also handicapped.

In other words, if I fly something with a handicap of .8,
can I file a 300K O&R speed record claim with a flight of
301 actual km or do I have to fly a minimum distance of
300/.8=375 km to qualify for the 300km O&R speed record?

Thanks

[Marc Ramsey]

Mike Johnson wrote:
> In other words, if I fly something with a handicap of .8,
> can I file a 300K O&R speed record claim with a flight of
> 301 actual km or do I have to fly a minimum distance of
> 300/.8=375 km to qualify for the 300km O&R speed record?

My understanding is yes, you must increase the minimum distance in
proportion to the handicap...

Marc

[Eric Greenwell]

Mike Johnson wrote:
> When flying a US state record attempt for speed, I
> understand that the achieved speed is handicapped. My
> question is whether the minimum distance for that speed
> record is also handicapped.
>
> In other words, if I fly something with a handicap of .8,
> can I file a 300K O&R speed record claim with a flight of
> 301 actual km or do I have to fly a minimum distance of
> 300/.8=375 km to qualify for the 300km O&R speed record?

Only the Sports class uses handicaps; the other classes do not. For
Sports class speed records, a handicapped distance is flown. Be sure to
check the rules on the SSA site at

http://ssa.org/members/badgesandrecords/forms.asp


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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

[Gary Emerson]

If you are going to attempt a 100k triangle speed in sports class you
need to fly 100k actual distance and then your achieved speed is then
handicapped.

If you attempt a distance flight then your actual distance is handicapped.





Mike Johnson wrote:
> When flying a US state record attempt for speed, I
> understand that the achieved speed is handicapped. My
> question is whether the minimum distance for that speed
> record is also handicapped.
>
> In other words, if I fly something with a handicap of .8,
> can I file a 300K O&R speed record claim with a flight of
> 301 actual km or do I have to fly a minimum distance of
> 300/.8=375 km to qualify for the 300km O&R speed record?
>
> Thanks

[Eric Greenwell]

Gary Emerson wrote:

> If you are going to attempt a 100k triangle speed in sports class you
> need to fly 100k actual distance and then your achieved speed is
> then handicapped.

The rules for US state records make it sound like the distance flown is
handicapped and used for the claimed task length, then the speed is
determined by dividing the actual time by the handicapped distance:

> 4.0 Sports Class Handicapping : Determine the CDH handicap from the
> current handicap list.
> a. Handicapped Distance calculation: Multiply
> the Official Distance (SC3 1.2.1) by the current CDH handicap.
> Annotate the record distance on the claim form as “HMI” (see 6.0b
> below)
> b. Handicapped Speed calculation: Verify that the Handicapped
> Distance is not less than the claimed record task length. Divide the
> Handicapped Distance by the Duration (SC3 1.2.6). Annotate the record
> speed on the claim form as “HMPH” (see 6.0b below).

I've not actually submitted any Sports class speed claims, however.

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Eric Greenwell
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