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Jay Honeck
March 28th 05, 03:06 AM
We wrapped up a quiet weekend at the hotel (holidays are usually slow in a
college town, since no one is actually *from* here), and the weather
couldn't have been better. Sunny skies, light winds, temps in the upper
50s, and expected to hit the 70s tomorrow.

But where to go? We wanted to do an Easter Brunch somewhere, but our usual
haunts were closed, and the greasy spoon diner in Lone Rock -- normally a
favorite -- just didn't seem up to the stature of the day.

Mary struck upon the idea of visiting the Black Angus, located in Prairie du
Chien, WI (PDC - http://www.airnav.com/airport/KPDC ) . This grand old
restaurant, located right across the street from the airport, never
disappoints, with its old-fashioned soup and salad bar, excellent service,
and great steaks. And landing in PDC is beautiful in any season, with the
airport located at the confluence of the Wisconsin and Mississippi rivers.

We figured that the Angus would surely be having an Easter brunch of some
sort, but it seemed that a phone call was in order, just to make sure that
food would be waiting at the other end of the flight. Digging out our
spanking-new copy of the AOPA Directory, we were surprised to find that the
Angus is no longer listed in "the Bible" (as we irreverently call this
indispensable book.). I suppose someone forgot to fill out the paperwork,
or maybe the owner got in a snit with the airport manager? Who knows?

Second surprise: No answer at the FBO. Amazingly, this municipal airport
was closed on a Christian religious holiday -- welcome to small-town
America!

So, we launched "blind", but with the assurance that we could always call
the nearby casino and get a ride over to their excellent buffet. (A casino
never misses a trick, Easter or not!)

The flight was surprisingly bumpy, given the sunny skies and calm winds --
until we broke out on top of the haze layer at 5000 feet. Once above it
all, the air was as still as a wading pool, and the kids and I sat back to
enjoy the flight while Mary did all the work.

The landscape unfurled beneath us, and it was interesting to see the mix of
winter and spring on the ground. From our lofty perch one could still see a
hint of snow and ice in the darkest forests and ravines, while in exposed
sunny areas the first blush of green grass was apparent. It's easy to see
how it will only take a couple of warm days to make life spring from the
earth anew -- and, boy, are we ready for it!

The pattern for Rwy 14 always takes you perilously close to the bluffs that
loom over the city, which makes for great sight-seeing and a relatively high
workload landing. (For sure don't EVER get low landing there at night!)
Mary pulled off a nice greaser with her usual aplomb, and we taxied in to
park next to a gorgeous 1949 Bonanza.

We knew it was a '49, because the owners cousin was right there, and had to
tell us all about it. The owner himself was no where to be found, but the
cousin had felt compelled to come out to the airport on this sunny spring
day, just to hang out near this beautiful machine, fresh as it was from the
restoration shop.

I understood completely.

The Angus was open, the meal was excellent, and reasonably priced. After a
long, leisurely repast, we ambled happily back to the plane, to find that
our neighboring Bo had been replaced by a 2000 Commander 115. This
perfectly stunning machine was owned by a strangely unfriendly couple, who
sullenly said "thanks" to our compliments about their beautiful steed. We
shrugged it off to bad luck at the gaming tables, and got on with our
preflight.

My 14-year old son was "pretend PIC" for this flight home, so I handed him
the fuel tester and let him have at it. Following him around silently, he
absent-mindedly overlooked giving the wheel pant a wiggle, so I pointed this
out to him. He gave it a gently tug, and we were both surprised to find the
top two screws quite loose!

Both looking accusingly at Mary, who immediately 'fessed up to having forgot
to check it earlier, we dug out a screwdriver and tightened the offending
screws down. Knowing that I was the last guy to have installed those
screws, I inwardly cursed myself -- but wisely kept quiet....
;-)

The rest of the preflight went well, and we hopped into the plane. Joey ran
through the pre-start checklist, and did everything "by the book" including
startup and taxi. He announced our intentions to taxi to the runway on the
radio, and stopped at the hold-short line, where he conducted a
picture-perfect run-up.

Rolling out onto the runway, he smoothly applied full power, and we trundled
down the runway and into the air. With the river bluffs looming in the
distance, we racked it around fairly tightly and proceeded downriver,
admiring the usually invisible campground where the kids and I usually
motorcycle camp each summer.

The bumps were still there, but Joey did an excellent job of ignoring them,
keeping us on course and climbing. He's been flying all of his life, and is
just a natural. I had to chastise him a bit for arguing with his little
sister on the intercom -- an absolute no-no while flying -- but otherwise he
was a smooth stick all the way home.

Cutting loose from Cedar Rapids Approach ten miles out, Joey did the
announcing again as we approached the pattern for an overhead entry to
Runway 30. He spotted traffic off the arrival end of the runway (that
never responded to my radio calls, and eventually disappeared), and expertly
brought us into the downwind leg before I took over, mostly due to the bumps
that were making a stabilized approach impossible.

After landing, he taxied us to our hangar, and completed another .9 hours of
"flight training" that will hopefully make getting his ticket a breeze.

The weather was so nice that we decided to pull the Mustang convertible out
of the back of the hangar, and clean the plane up a bit. (It sat outside
for a week in Florida, and was really a mess.) While polishing the prop, a
new neighbor pulled up on his motorcycle, and we happily chewed the fat with
him about his 5-year-and-counting RV-9 project... The sun was warm, the
winds were light, the music was playing... It just doesn't get any better
than this.

I don't know about you guys, but I simply can't imagine a better way to
spend Easter Sunday. Can you?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Robert A. Barker
March 28th 05, 03:16 AM
Great story Jay I was relegated to a ground pounder today. :-(

Bob Barker N8749S

"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:zEJ1e.112246$Ze3.15858@attbi_s51...
> We wrapped up a quiet weekend at the hotel (holidays are usually slow in a
> college town, since no one is actually *from* here), and the weather
> couldn't have been better. Sunny skies, light winds, temps in the upper
> 50s, and expected to hit the 70s tomorrow.
>
> But where to go? We wanted to do an Easter Brunch somewhere, but our
> usual haunts were closed, and the greasy spoon diner in Lone Rock --
> normally a favorite -- just didn't seem up to the stature of the day.
>
> Mary struck upon the idea of visiting the Black Angus, located in Prairie
> du Chien, WI (PDC - http://www.airnav.com/airport/KPDC ) . This grand old
> restaurant, located right across the street from the airport, never
> disappoints, with its old-fashioned soup and salad bar, excellent service,
> and great steaks. And landing in PDC is beautiful in any season, with the
> airport located at the confluence of the Wisconsin and Mississippi rivers.
>
> We figured that the Angus would surely be having an Easter brunch of some
> sort, but it seemed that a phone call was in order, just to make sure that
> food would be waiting at the other end of the flight. Digging out our
> spanking-new copy of the AOPA Directory, we were surprised to find that
> the Angus is no longer listed in "the Bible" (as we irreverently call this
> indispensable book.). I suppose someone forgot to fill out the
> paperwork, or maybe the owner got in a snit with the airport manager? Who
> knows?
>
> Second surprise: No answer at the FBO. Amazingly, this municipal airport
> was closed on a Christian religious holiday -- welcome to small-town
> America!
>
> So, we launched "blind", but with the assurance that we could always call
> the nearby casino and get a ride over to their excellent buffet. (A
> casino never misses a trick, Easter or not!)
>
> The flight was surprisingly bumpy, given the sunny skies and calm winds --
> until we broke out on top of the haze layer at 5000 feet. Once above it
> all, the air was as still as a wading pool, and the kids and I sat back to
> enjoy the flight while Mary did all the work.
>
> The landscape unfurled beneath us, and it was interesting to see the mix
> of winter and spring on the ground. From our lofty perch one could still
> see a hint of snow and ice in the darkest forests and ravines, while in
> exposed sunny areas the first blush of green grass was apparent. It's
> easy to see how it will only take a couple of warm days to make life
> spring from the earth anew -- and, boy, are we ready for it!
>
> The pattern for Rwy 14 always takes you perilously close to the bluffs
> that loom over the city, which makes for great sight-seeing and a
> relatively high workload landing. (For sure don't EVER get low landing
> there at night!) Mary pulled off a nice greaser with her usual aplomb, and
> we taxied in to park next to a gorgeous 1949 Bonanza.
>
> We knew it was a '49, because the owners cousin was right there, and had
> to tell us all about it. The owner himself was no where to be found, but
> the cousin had felt compelled to come out to the airport on this sunny
> spring day, just to hang out near this beautiful machine, fresh as it was
> from the restoration shop.
>
> I understood completely.
>
> The Angus was open, the meal was excellent, and reasonably priced. After
> a long, leisurely repast, we ambled happily back to the plane, to find
> that our neighboring Bo had been replaced by a 2000 Commander 115. This
> perfectly stunning machine was owned by a strangely unfriendly couple, who
> sullenly said "thanks" to our compliments about their beautiful steed. We
> shrugged it off to bad luck at the gaming tables, and got on with our
> preflight.
>
> My 14-year old son was "pretend PIC" for this flight home, so I handed him
> the fuel tester and let him have at it. Following him around silently, he
> absent-mindedly overlooked giving the wheel pant a wiggle, so I pointed
> this out to him. He gave it a gently tug, and we were both surprised to
> find the top two screws quite loose!
>
> Both looking accusingly at Mary, who immediately 'fessed up to having
> forgot to check it earlier, we dug out a screwdriver and tightened the
> offending screws down. Knowing that I was the last guy to have installed
> those screws, I inwardly cursed myself -- but wisely kept quiet....
> ;-)
>
> The rest of the preflight went well, and we hopped into the plane. Joey
> ran through the pre-start checklist, and did everything "by the book"
> including startup and taxi. He announced our intentions to taxi to the
> runway on the radio, and stopped at the hold-short line, where he
> conducted a picture-perfect run-up.
>
> Rolling out onto the runway, he smoothly applied full power, and we
> trundled down the runway and into the air. With the river bluffs looming
> in the distance, we racked it around fairly tightly and proceeded
> downriver, admiring the usually invisible campground where the kids and I
> usually motorcycle camp each summer.
>
> The bumps were still there, but Joey did an excellent job of ignoring
> them, keeping us on course and climbing. He's been flying all of his
> life, and is just a natural. I had to chastise him a bit for arguing with
> his little sister on the intercom -- an absolute no-no while flying -- but
> otherwise he was a smooth stick all the way home.
>
> Cutting loose from Cedar Rapids Approach ten miles out, Joey did the
> announcing again as we approached the pattern for an overhead entry to
> Runway 30. He spotted traffic off the arrival end of the runway (that
> never responded to my radio calls, and eventually disappeared), and
> expertly brought us into the downwind leg before I took over, mostly due
> to the bumps that were making a stabilized approach impossible.
>
> After landing, he taxied us to our hangar, and completed another .9 hours
> of "flight training" that will hopefully make getting his ticket a breeze.
>
> The weather was so nice that we decided to pull the Mustang convertible
> out of the back of the hangar, and clean the plane up a bit. (It sat
> outside for a week in Florida, and was really a mess.) While polishing
> the prop, a new neighbor pulled up on his motorcycle, and we happily
> chewed the fat with him about his 5-year-and-counting RV-9 project...
> The sun was warm, the winds were light, the music was playing... It just
> doesn't get any better than this.
>
> I don't know about you guys, but I simply can't imagine a better way to
> spend Easter Sunday. Can you?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>

Jack Allison
March 28th 05, 04:01 AM
Glad you got some good flying weather Jay. I lucked out yesterday as
the weather was great. Not that I noticed any of it from under the hood
doing two VOR approaches and a couple of holds. Out of 1.6 hours, I got
to look outside for maybe .2. First circle to land from the VOR
approach at my home airport though. Nobody was in the pattern so we
were able to pull it off. It just felt wrong circling that low and
throwing the anchor out once we saw the VASI. Fun though and I can see
how it would work if the ILS was out of service and the ceilings were
somewhere above 500 ft.

Today the rain is back as we have a storm rolling in. Old man winter's
last hurrah.

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-IA Student-Arrow Buying Student

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

Jay Honeck
March 28th 05, 04:48 AM
> Great story Jay I was relegated to a ground pounder today. :-(

We had a great time, but I just received the sobering news that there was
not one, but TWO fatal plane crashes near here today -- one of them a
Cherokee 235 that crashed on take-off, with three fatalities and one badly
burned little girl survivor.

The other accident I just got called about by my CAP squadron commander. A
fatal crash just south of Iowa City's VOR, circumstances unknown.

I have no word on who was involved, but we're all on pins and needles
waiting to hear something...

Be careful out there, guys. This thing we love so much can bite -- hard.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

RST Engineering
March 28th 05, 05:06 AM
Well, I woke up this morning to this beautiful naked lady lying next to me,
and we had the most wonderful suggestions as to how to pass the time of day
....

{-;)

Jim



>
> I don't know about you guys, but I simply can't imagine a better way to
> spend Easter Sunday. Can you?
>

Jay Honeck
March 28th 05, 05:15 AM
>> I don't know about you guys, but I simply can't imagine a better way to
>> spend Easter Sunday. Can you?

> Well, I woke up this morning to this beautiful naked lady lying next to
> me, and we had the most wonderful suggestions as to how to pass the time
> of day

Well, okay -- you got me beat!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Montblack
March 28th 05, 05:40 AM
(Jack Allison wrote)
<snip>
> Today the rain is back as we have a storm rolling in. Old man winter's
> last hurrah.


You are not allowed to call your Sacramento weather ...winter.

Please come up with another name for it :-)


Montblack
(Ahhh, finally!!!)
55F-60F forecast for a couple of days this week

Morgans
March 28th 05, 05:41 AM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote

The sun was warm, the
> winds were light, the music was playing... It just doesn't get any better
> than this.
>
> I don't know about you guys, but I simply can't imagine a better way to
> spend Easter Sunday. Can you?

Curses, for reminding me that somewhere, there was better weather than
drizzle to moderate rain, ALL DAY LONG!!!

It looks like there might be one sunny day in the next seven days that are
left in my Easter break. There is a low pressure sitting and spinning,
sitting and spinning.

There are buds popping open, everywhere. A bright note, compared to your
spots of snow, cold weather, and severe weather that is sure to return to
your fair city! ;-)
--
Jim in NC

John Theune
March 28th 05, 05:54 AM
Jay Honeck wrote:

> We wrapped up a quiet weekend at the hotel (holidays are usually slow in a
> college town, since no one is actually *from* here), and the weather
> couldn't have been better. Sunny skies, light winds, temps in the upper
> 50s, and expected to hit the 70s tomorrow.
>
> But where to go? We wanted to do an Easter Brunch somewhere, but our usual
> haunts were closed, and the greasy spoon diner in Lone Rock -- normally a
> favorite -- just didn't seem up to the stature of the day.
>
> Mary struck upon the idea of visiting the Black Angus, located in Prairie du
> Chien, WI (PDC - http://www.airnav.com/airport/KPDC ) . This grand old
> restaurant, located right across the street from the airport, never
> disappoints, with its old-fashioned soup and salad bar, excellent service,
> and great steaks. And landing in PDC is beautiful in any season, with the
> airport located at the confluence of the Wisconsin and Mississippi rivers.
>
> We figured that the Angus would surely be having an Easter brunch of some
> sort, but it seemed that a phone call was in order, just to make sure that
> food would be waiting at the other end of the flight. Digging out our
> spanking-new copy of the AOPA Directory, we were surprised to find that the
> Angus is no longer listed in "the Bible" (as we irreverently call this
> indispensable book.). I suppose someone forgot to fill out the paperwork,
> or maybe the owner got in a snit with the airport manager? Who knows?
>
> Second surprise: No answer at the FBO. Amazingly, this municipal airport
> was closed on a Christian religious holiday -- welcome to small-town
> America!
>
> So, we launched "blind", but with the assurance that we could always call
> the nearby casino and get a ride over to their excellent buffet. (A casino
> never misses a trick, Easter or not!)
>
> The flight was surprisingly bumpy, given the sunny skies and calm winds --
> until we broke out on top of the haze layer at 5000 feet. Once above it
> all, the air was as still as a wading pool, and the kids and I sat back to
> enjoy the flight while Mary did all the work.
>
> The landscape unfurled beneath us, and it was interesting to see the mix of
> winter and spring on the ground. From our lofty perch one could still see a
> hint of snow and ice in the darkest forests and ravines, while in exposed
> sunny areas the first blush of green grass was apparent. It's easy to see
> how it will only take a couple of warm days to make life spring from the
> earth anew -- and, boy, are we ready for it!
>
> The pattern for Rwy 14 always takes you perilously close to the bluffs that
> loom over the city, which makes for great sight-seeing and a relatively high
> workload landing. (For sure don't EVER get low landing there at night!)
> Mary pulled off a nice greaser with her usual aplomb, and we taxied in to
> park next to a gorgeous 1949 Bonanza.
>
> We knew it was a '49, because the owners cousin was right there, and had to
> tell us all about it. The owner himself was no where to be found, but the
> cousin had felt compelled to come out to the airport on this sunny spring
> day, just to hang out near this beautiful machine, fresh as it was from the
> restoration shop.
>
> I understood completely.
>
> The Angus was open, the meal was excellent, and reasonably priced. After a
> long, leisurely repast, we ambled happily back to the plane, to find that
> our neighboring Bo had been replaced by a 2000 Commander 115. This
> perfectly stunning machine was owned by a strangely unfriendly couple, who
> sullenly said "thanks" to our compliments about their beautiful steed. We
> shrugged it off to bad luck at the gaming tables, and got on with our
> preflight.
>
> My 14-year old son was "pretend PIC" for this flight home, so I handed him
> the fuel tester and let him have at it. Following him around silently, he
> absent-mindedly overlooked giving the wheel pant a wiggle, so I pointed this
> out to him. He gave it a gently tug, and we were both surprised to find the
> top two screws quite loose!
>
> Both looking accusingly at Mary, who immediately 'fessed up to having forgot
> to check it earlier, we dug out a screwdriver and tightened the offending
> screws down. Knowing that I was the last guy to have installed those
> screws, I inwardly cursed myself -- but wisely kept quiet....
> ;-)
>
> The rest of the preflight went well, and we hopped into the plane. Joey ran
> through the pre-start checklist, and did everything "by the book" including
> startup and taxi. He announced our intentions to taxi to the runway on the
> radio, and stopped at the hold-short line, where he conducted a
> picture-perfect run-up.
>
> Rolling out onto the runway, he smoothly applied full power, and we trundled
> down the runway and into the air. With the river bluffs looming in the
> distance, we racked it around fairly tightly and proceeded downriver,
> admiring the usually invisible campground where the kids and I usually
> motorcycle camp each summer.
>
> The bumps were still there, but Joey did an excellent job of ignoring them,
> keeping us on course and climbing. He's been flying all of his life, and is
> just a natural. I had to chastise him a bit for arguing with his little
> sister on the intercom -- an absolute no-no while flying -- but otherwise he
> was a smooth stick all the way home.
>
> Cutting loose from Cedar Rapids Approach ten miles out, Joey did the
> announcing again as we approached the pattern for an overhead entry to
> Runway 30. He spotted traffic off the arrival end of the runway (that
> never responded to my radio calls, and eventually disappeared), and expertly
> brought us into the downwind leg before I took over, mostly due to the bumps
> that were making a stabilized approach impossible.
>
> After landing, he taxied us to our hangar, and completed another .9 hours of
> "flight training" that will hopefully make getting his ticket a breeze.
>
> The weather was so nice that we decided to pull the Mustang convertible out
> of the back of the hangar, and clean the plane up a bit. (It sat outside
> for a week in Florida, and was really a mess.) While polishing the prop, a
> new neighbor pulled up on his motorcycle, and we happily chewed the fat with
> him about his 5-year-and-counting RV-9 project... The sun was warm, the
> winds were light, the music was playing... It just doesn't get any better
> than this.
>
> I don't know about you guys, but I simply can't imagine a better way to
> spend Easter Sunday. Can you?
Jay;
I know from your many posts of your love of all things aviation and your
families involvement in it. I also know from many of your posts that
you have not completed your advanced ratings including CFI. I wonder
what structures and information are you using to teach your son to fly.
I worry that without having gotten training yourself in teaching
flying skills to others, you may be in-adventinly teaching Joey some
"bad" things that will have to be re-learned later or worse yet set him
up with wired responses to situations that may not be the right thing,
but since they are the first thing he learned may use them when
stressed. I'm certainly not saying your are doing any of these bad
things, but wonder what you have done to make sure you don't. You
normally seem very prepared for things, so I wonder what you have done
in this case. I know that in my own case, I've taken my son up for
many flights and have let him "fly" the plane, but only basic straight
and level stuff. It may come to pass that he wants more before he
decides to take lessons and I want to be prepared for it.

As for a great way to spend the day, my family and I drove 400 miles
round trip to visit my Mom and all I could think was, "This would have
been much better if I flew"

John

Pete
March 28th 05, 06:11 AM
> I don't know about you guys, but I simply can't imagine a better way to
> spend Easter Sunday. Can you?

Sure I can, like going to church with my friends and family to celebrate the
resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ. Flying is great, but its not
everything.

Why bother relating your story to Easter if the day means nothing to you ?
Wait, I see, if you emphasize how you're going flying on Easter, then you
can throw darts at KPDC's FBO for having the gall to be closed.

It's amazing I say ! Those small town bumpkins actually closed on Easter
Sunday ! They are probably at church, have you ever heard of such as
travesty ?

Jay Honeck
March 28th 05, 06:28 AM
> Why bother relating your story to Easter if the day means nothing to you ?
> Wait, I see, if you emphasize how you're going flying on Easter, then you
> can throw darts at KPDC's FBO for having the gall to be closed.

Ah, yes. Once again we are reminded that there are those amongst us who
will find the worst in the best, no matter what.

Between the two fatal accidents here today, and your post, I don't know
which is more depressing.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Grumman-581
March 28th 05, 06:37 AM
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA

Hey Jay,

Didn't realize you were up in this area... I've been off
rec.aviation.piloting for awhile -- mainly just being my obnoxious self
over at rec.scuba, I guess... Although I still live in Houston, I'm
(more or less) in your area on business these days (contracting for
Rockwell Collins) in Cedar Rapids... Maybe I can stop by one weekend
and say "hi"...

Grumman-581
March 28th 05, 07:43 AM
"Pete" wrote in message ...
> Flying is great, but its not everything.

Yeah, there is also BBQ... Being from Texas, that is also a religious
experience...

Grumman-581
March 28th 05, 07:45 AM
"RST Engineering" wrote in message
...
> Well, I woke up this morning to this beautiful naked lady lying next to
me,
> and we had the most wonderful suggestions as to how to pass the time of
day

You both wanted to go flying? <snicker>

Morgans
March 28th 05, 07:50 AM
"Pete" > wrote in message news:dmM1e.37747

> Sure I can, like going to church with my friends and family to celebrate
the
> resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ. Flying is great, but its not
> everything.

Some see the face of the Lord in the clouds. Who is to criticize that?
Shall you be the one to throw the first stone? Judge not, and be not
judged.
--
Jim in NC

Grumman-581
March 28th 05, 07:56 AM
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:zEJ1e.112246$Ze3.15858@attbi_s51...
> I don't know about you guys, but I simply can't imagine a better way to
> spend Easter Sunday. Can you?

A day of flying followed by BBQ and beer, or course... Oh, wife and kids at
home, of course...

Jay Beckman
March 28th 05, 08:05 AM
"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
news:zEJ1e.112246$Ze3.15858@attbi_s51...

<Snip enjoyable PiRep>

> I don't know about you guys, but I simply can't imagine a better way to
> spend Easter Sunday. Can you?

Frankly, any time I'm able to spend a Sunday at home with my wife instead of
sitting in a TV truck attempting to please the NASCAR faithful, or sitting
in a hotel room entertaining just myself is cause to do a "happy dance."

Hoppy Easter to all...

Oh, and isn't "ascension" another word for "taking flight?"

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

Martin Hotze
March 28th 05, 10:56 AM
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 20:06:47 -0800, RST Engineering wrote:

>Well, I woke up this morning to this beautiful naked lady lying next to me,
>and we had the most wonderful suggestions as to how to pass the time of day
>...
>

hmmm ... into position and hoooooold.

>{-;)

:-))

#m

--
It's not like I'm a terrorist or a hair dresser or anything.
http://www.ensight.org/archives/2005/03/16/issues-with-immigration/trackback/

Jay Honeck
March 28th 05, 01:59 PM
> Didn't realize you were up in this area... I've been off
> rec.aviation.piloting for awhile -- mainly just being my obnoxious self
> over at rec.scuba, I guess... Although I still live in Houston, I'm
> (more or less) in your area on business these days (contracting for
> Rockwell Collins) in Cedar Rapids... Maybe I can stop by one weekend
> and say "hi"...

Sure -- stop on by. We'll give you the "nickel tour"...

Whaddya do for Collins?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
March 28th 05, 02:00 PM
>> Well, I woke up this morning to this beautiful naked lady lying next to
> me,
>> and we had the most wonderful suggestions as to how to pass the time of
> day
>
> You both wanted to go flying? <snicker>

Well, assuming that Jim's talking about his wife here (<ducking!>), they
*are* both CFIs...

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
"Grumman-581" > wrote in message
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> "RST Engineering" wrote in message
> ...
>
>

A Lieberman
March 28th 05, 02:05 PM
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 05:11:37 GMT, Pete wrote:

> Sure I can, like going to church with my friends and family to celebrate the
> resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ. Flying is great, but its not
> everything.

Hmm, doesn't take a building to celebrate any holiday. I think I like
Jay's way of celebrating better. With FAMILY.

Heck, here I am in Mississippi, my wife in Ohio, the weather at best is
crap, I was suppose to fly up there and meet her up there for Easter, and
now this front has hung up in the Appalachians.

I figured no problem, get up there today, but the weather Gods had
something else to say.

Well, maybe tomorrow. It appears to be severe clear in the forecast,
though it will be a very short visit, as more thunderstorms are expected on
Thursday.

No matter what weather setbacks I may experience, it still is a privilege
to fly!

Allen

Grumman-581
March 28th 05, 02:10 PM
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:scT1e.10888$NW5.10055@attbi_s02...
> Whaddya do for Collins?

They were originally wanting me up here for a project dealing with the
Apache's avionics package, but when Lockheed got the contract for the
Presidential helicopter, things got shuffled around and they ended up
bringing me up here for the Cabin Electronics System (CES)... I've heard it
referred to as the "Pimp My Jet" project...

Jay Honeck
March 28th 05, 03:08 PM
> They were originally wanting me up here for a project dealing with the
> Apache's avionics package, but when Lockheed got the contract for the
> Presidential helicopter, things got shuffled around and they ended up
> bringing me up here for the Cabin Electronics System (CES)... I've heard
> it
> referred to as the "Pimp My Jet" project...

Cool! We've talked about doing a "Rockwell-Collins Suite", both because
they are so close by to us and because of their amazing history of aviation
innovation. I'm sure we could snag a ton of memorabilia for the suite
without lifting a finger.

Still, somehow the name just hasn't caught on. We need to make it sound
more romantic, somehow...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Dave
March 28th 05, 03:16 PM
OK.... Jay, I will re-balance things here...

Friend & I took off in our 172 just at sunset (Easter evening ?), to
WATCH the sunset..(clear sky), flew around till dark so he could see
the lights of the city (his 1st time night flight)

Did a couple of landings (feeding my currency) and tucked it back in
the hangar..

He said the landing, among all the strobes, VASI's and all the other
lights (greased a 10 knt Xwind) was about a "10" on his "cool things
to do" meter... :)

As many time as I have exercised this "privilege" , I never tire of
the ground falling away under me ...

Dave

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 05:28:56 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:

>> Why bother relating your story to Easter if the day means nothing to you ?
>> Wait, I see, if you emphasize how you're going flying on Easter, then you
>> can throw darts at KPDC's FBO for having the gall to be closed.
>
>Ah, yes. Once again we are reminded that there are those amongst us who
>will find the worst in the best, no matter what.
>
>Between the two fatal accidents here today, and your post, I don't know
>which is more depressing.

SFM
March 28th 05, 04:21 PM
Nice story Jay.
I am just a couple of hours east of you and we had an entirely different
Easter flying experience.
I departed 3CK which is 30mile NW of Chicago Saturday morning with the
intended destination of Smith Field in Fort Wayne Indiana. Saturday morning
was MVFR to VFR in the Chicago area with IFR and icing condition in Northern
Indiana improving to MVFR around noon that day. So our plan was to take the
172 first to Morris for some breakfast, recheck weather and decide to push
forward, wait it out or go home.

Around 10:30am things were looking better towards Ft. Wayne still and airmet
for icing but the PIREPs were showing no icing below 6000 which is where the
OATs that were reported to finally be at 0C and the while ceilings were low
(900 to 1200) there were tops at about 3000 with the next layer at 5500MSL.
So we decided to push on.

Upon take off I could not raise departure to get my clearance and the vis
was going down so I was just starting to begin a turn back to the field and
try the cell phone when I was finally able to get Chi-Center on the radio
got my clearance and climbed to 4000MSL.

For the first 45 minutes we were between layers with a distinct blue band
visible way off in the distance in every direction except in my direction of
travel. The OAT was 3C, I kept an eye on it and pushed forward. As we got
just past the OXI VOR we got into full IMC but the OAT was still 3C so again
I pushed on but got out approach plates for a couple of alternates incase
some ice started forming. I talked to Flight Watch and a the only recent
icing report was for 7000 feet and thing would improve as got closer to Ft.
Wayne.

But about 10 minutes after that the temp started dropping and clear ice
began to form. The 172, I have been told, will hold a lot of ice but I never
intend to see how much. So at the first sign of ice I asked for lower since
I knew that in this case higher was colder, I got 3000MSL but it was still
0C and there was still trace ice forming. I'll take the safe road and knowin
g it was warmer behind me I asked for diversion to Valparaiso were there is
a nice airport with an ILS on runway 27, this set me up almost for a
straight in approach..

Within 2 minutes of turning around I was back into the warmer air and the
little bit of ice that formed was gone. I was still in IMC and shot a
perfect ILS breaking out 400AGL, landed, and hung out at the airport lounge
for 2 hours until it warmed up at Ft. Wayne.

At about 1pm all along the route of flight things had warmed up, no icing
reports but still low ceilings, we departed and stayed at 3000MSL, which
had warmed up to 2C and when we got to Smith we broke out a few seconds
after starting the approach.

On Easter We departed VFR but hit some IMC around the southern Lake Michigan
Areas but we had filled IFR and were well above the low layer with high
cirrus above. When we lost that low layer around Joliet the air got really
rough, like you describe and we could not find any smooth air. So we bumped
our way home and landed. My wife said it was the first time she felt like
she was going to throw up in an airplane.

Scott

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"Jay Honeck" > wrote in message
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> We wrapped up a quiet weekend at the hotel (holidays are usually slow in a
> college town, since no one is actually *from* here), and the weather
> couldn't have been better. Sunny skies, light winds, temps in the upper
> 50s, and expected to hit the 70s tomorrow.
>
> But where to go? We wanted to do an Easter Brunch somewhere, but our
usual
> haunts were closed, and the greasy spoon diner in Lone Rock -- normally a
> favorite -- just didn't seem up to the stature of the day.
>
> Mary struck upon the idea of visiting the Black Angus, located in Prairie
du
> Chien, WI (PDC - http://www.airnav.com/airport/KPDC ) . This grand old
> restaurant, located right across the street from the airport, never
> disappoints, with its old-fashioned soup and salad bar, excellent service,
> and great steaks. And landing in PDC is beautiful in any season, with the
> airport located at the confluence of the Wisconsin and Mississippi rivers.
>
> We figured that the Angus would surely be having an Easter brunch of some
> sort, but it seemed that a phone call was in order, just to make sure that
> food would be waiting at the other end of the flight. Digging out our
> spanking-new copy of the AOPA Directory, we were surprised to find that
the
> Angus is no longer listed in "the Bible" (as we irreverently call this
> indispensable book.). I suppose someone forgot to fill out the
paperwork,
> or maybe the owner got in a snit with the airport manager? Who knows?
>
> Second surprise: No answer at the FBO. Amazingly, this municipal airport
> was closed on a Christian religious holiday -- welcome to small-town
> America!
>
> So, we launched "blind", but with the assurance that we could always call
> the nearby casino and get a ride over to their excellent buffet. (A
casino
> never misses a trick, Easter or not!)
>
> The flight was surprisingly bumpy, given the sunny skies and calm winds --
> until we broke out on top of the haze layer at 5000 feet. Once above it
> all, the air was as still as a wading pool, and the kids and I sat back to
> enjoy the flight while Mary did all the work.
>
> The landscape unfurled beneath us, and it was interesting to see the mix
of
> winter and spring on the ground. From our lofty perch one could still see
a
> hint of snow and ice in the darkest forests and ravines, while in exposed
> sunny areas the first blush of green grass was apparent. It's easy to see
> how it will only take a couple of warm days to make life spring from the
> earth anew -- and, boy, are we ready for it!
>
> The pattern for Rwy 14 always takes you perilously close to the bluffs
that
> loom over the city, which makes for great sight-seeing and a relatively
high
> workload landing. (For sure don't EVER get low landing there at night!)
> Mary pulled off a nice greaser with her usual aplomb, and we taxied in to
> park next to a gorgeous 1949 Bonanza.
>
> We knew it was a '49, because the owners cousin was right there, and had
to
> tell us all about it. The owner himself was no where to be found, but the
> cousin had felt compelled to come out to the airport on this sunny spring
> day, just to hang out near this beautiful machine, fresh as it was from
the
> restoration shop.
>
> I understood completely.
>
> The Angus was open, the meal was excellent, and reasonably priced. After
a
> long, leisurely repast, we ambled happily back to the plane, to find that
> our neighboring Bo had been replaced by a 2000 Commander 115. This
> perfectly stunning machine was owned by a strangely unfriendly couple, who
> sullenly said "thanks" to our compliments about their beautiful steed. We
> shrugged it off to bad luck at the gaming tables, and got on with our
> preflight.
>
> My 14-year old son was "pretend PIC" for this flight home, so I handed him
> the fuel tester and let him have at it. Following him around silently, he
> absent-mindedly overlooked giving the wheel pant a wiggle, so I pointed
this
> out to him. He gave it a gently tug, and we were both surprised to find
the
> top two screws quite loose!
>
> Both looking accusingly at Mary, who immediately 'fessed up to having
forgot
> to check it earlier, we dug out a screwdriver and tightened the offending
> screws down. Knowing that I was the last guy to have installed those
> screws, I inwardly cursed myself -- but wisely kept quiet....
> ;-)
>
> The rest of the preflight went well, and we hopped into the plane. Joey
ran
> through the pre-start checklist, and did everything "by the book"
including
> startup and taxi. He announced our intentions to taxi to the runway on
the
> radio, and stopped at the hold-short line, where he conducted a
> picture-perfect run-up.
>
> Rolling out onto the runway, he smoothly applied full power, and we
trundled
> down the runway and into the air. With the river bluffs looming in the
> distance, we racked it around fairly tightly and proceeded downriver,
> admiring the usually invisible campground where the kids and I usually
> motorcycle camp each summer.
>
> The bumps were still there, but Joey did an excellent job of ignoring
them,
> keeping us on course and climbing. He's been flying all of his life, and
is
> just a natural. I had to chastise him a bit for arguing with his little
> sister on the intercom -- an absolute no-no while flying -- but otherwise
he
> was a smooth stick all the way home.
>
> Cutting loose from Cedar Rapids Approach ten miles out, Joey did the
> announcing again as we approached the pattern for an overhead entry to
> Runway 30. He spotted traffic off the arrival end of the runway (that
> never responded to my radio calls, and eventually disappeared), and
expertly
> brought us into the downwind leg before I took over, mostly due to the
bumps
> that were making a stabilized approach impossible.
>
> After landing, he taxied us to our hangar, and completed another .9 hours
of
> "flight training" that will hopefully make getting his ticket a breeze.
>
> The weather was so nice that we decided to pull the Mustang convertible
out
> of the back of the hangar, and clean the plane up a bit. (It sat outside
> for a week in Florida, and was really a mess.) While polishing the prop,
a
> new neighbor pulled up on his motorcycle, and we happily chewed the fat
with
> him about his 5-year-and-counting RV-9 project... The sun was warm, the
> winds were light, the music was playing... It just doesn't get any better
> than this.
>
> I don't know about you guys, but I simply can't imagine a better way to
> spend Easter Sunday. Can you?
> --
> Jay Honeck
> Iowa City, IA
> Pathfinder N56993
> www.AlexisParkInn.com
> "Your Aviation Destination"
>
>

Montblack
March 28th 05, 07:05 PM
("Jay Honeck" wrote)
> Cool! We've talked about doing a "Rockwell-Collins Suite", both because
> they are so close by to us and because of their amazing history of
> aviation innovation. I'm sure we could snag a ton of memorabilia for the
> suite without lifting a finger.


I know I'm currently banned from the suggestion box, but...is there a GA
Suite in the works? Kind of a catch all? I think that would be cool :-)

BTW, how many rooms are left to upgrade?

Which Suite is the "wow" favorite these days?


Montblack

Grumman-581
March 28th 05, 07:16 PM
Jay Honeck wrote:
> Cool! We've talked about doing a "Rockwell-Collins Suite", both
because
> they are so close by to us and because of their amazing history of
aviation
> innovation. I'm sure we could snag a ton of memorabilia for the
suite
> without lifting a finger.

That would be the suite with the aging partition walls, right?

Jack Allison
March 28th 05, 08:35 PM
Well, ok, it is Spring so perhaps I should have not mentioned the "W"
word and called it an early Spring storm. Any better?

BTW, nice looking article on your stomping grounds in Air and Space.
Haven't read it yet. So many plane magazines, so little time.



--
Jack Allison
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"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
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Jim Burns
March 28th 05, 09:11 PM
I "think" there are plenty of suites yet "un-aviation themed" that maybe a
suite for each GA manufacturer could be created?! (ducking)
Jim

"Montblack" > wrote in message
...
> ("Jay Honeck" wrote)
> > Cool! We've talked about doing a "Rockwell-Collins Suite", both
because
> > they are so close by to us and because of their amazing history of
> > aviation innovation. I'm sure we could snag a ton of memorabilia for
the
> > suite without lifting a finger.
>
>
> I know I'm currently banned from the suggestion box, but...is there a GA
> Suite in the works? Kind of a catch all? I think that would be cool :-)
>
> BTW, how many rooms are left to upgrade?
>
> Which Suite is the "wow" favorite these days?
>
>
> Montblack
>

Jay Honeck
March 28th 05, 09:47 PM
> I know I'm currently banned from the suggestion box, but...is there a
GA
> Suite in the works? Kind of a catch all? I think that would be cool
:-)

No, there is no generic "GA Suite" in the works. Remember, our goal is
to create suites that evoke a specific *era* of aviation history, which
means that we try to find themes that immediately bring to mind the
unique era that they represent.

When you hear "The Mustang Suite" most people immediately associate the
name with a feeling, and an era. Same with the "Wright Brothers Suite"
and the "Stearman Suite."

The "GA Suite" just doesn't do that -- it covers too much ground.

> BTW, how many rooms are left to upgrade?

We've got at least three more theme suites planned (we've got 14
finished) -- the Apollo, the Oshkosh, and the Piper Cub Suites. After
that, we're going to take a breath, and reassess.

We've currently got nine of our largest suites set aside for corporate
housing (I.E.: For traveling nurses, visiting doctors, contruction
workers -- anyone who needs a suite with a full kitchen to live in for
1 to 6 months) that are pretty popular -- and those folks couldn't care
less about the aviation theme. (Also, they are the oldest suites, with
standard tubs. They would take big money to bring up to luxury suite,
hot tub standards...)

> Which Suite is the "wow" favorite these days?

The Mustang Suite, being our least expensive hot tub suite, is far and
away our most popular suite -- it's full almost every night. EVERYONE
knows the P-51 Mustang, and EVERYONE enjoys looking at the stuff that
Vlado (Lenoch) donated for the suite!

Of our more upscale suites, the Blackbird Suite is probably next most
popular, and the Reno Air Race Suite has been very popular for our top
of the line honeymoon suites.

Interestingly, (or sadly?) the Mustang and Reno suites are
smoking-permitted suites -- which flies in the face of recent smoking
statistics. You would think the situation would be just the opposite,
but there are a lot of cases where the husband (or wife) smokes, and
the wife (or husband) doesn't -- and *they* often request a
smoking-permitted suite.

Personally, after observing our guests for 2 1/2 years, I think the
smoking statistics that are reported are skewed by the fact that
smoking is no longer socially acceptable, and people tend to lie to the
pollsters about their unpopular personal habits. Even though recent
reports put smoking at somewhere around 30% of the adult population, I
think it's closer to 50%, especially if you factor in the "social
smokers" -- those who only smoke when they drink.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jose
March 28th 05, 09:55 PM
> Interestingly, (or sadly?) the Mustang and Reno suites are
> smoking-permitted suites

The only "Smoking permitted" suites should be a maintanance-themed one -
with drums half full of gasoline lying around. :)

Jose
--
Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Grumman-581
March 28th 05, 10:00 PM
Jose wrote:
> The only "Smoking permitted" suites should be a maintanance-themed
one -
> with drums half full of gasoline lying around. :)

Nawh, that might affect the neighboring suites... Put a high
concentration of freon in the smokers' rooms... Harmless for the most
part -- until they inhale it through the burning embers of the weed
that they're smoking...

Phosgene gas...

jsmith
March 28th 05, 10:26 PM
Oh! So THAT'S what happened the airconditioner charge!

Grumman-581 wrote:
> Jose wrote:
>
>>The only "Smoking permitted" suites should be a maintanance-themed
>
> one -
>
>>with drums half full of gasoline lying around. :)
>
>
> Nawh, that might affect the neighboring suites... Put a high
> concentration of freon in the smokers' rooms... Harmless for the most
> part -- until they inhale it through the burning embers of the weed
> that they're smoking...
>
> Phosgene gas...
>

Montblack
March 28th 05, 10:34 PM
("Jack Allison" wrote)
> BTW, nice looking article on your stomping grounds in Air and Space.
> Haven't read it yet. So many plane magazines, so little time.


I'll try to track it down at the volunteer meeting Wednesday evening.
Otherwise I'll look for it at the library. Heard it was in the pipeline, but
had forgotten about it. Thanks for the heads up.


Montblack

Frank
March 28th 05, 10:50 PM
Jay Honeck wrote:

<snip>
>
> I don't know about you guys, but I simply can't imagine a better way to
> spend Easter Sunday. Can you?

Yeah, the Badgers could have won.... Had the game on the ADF. Cable (3CU) to
Waukesha (UES) at 5500, if they'd have gone into overtime like everyone
else I would have had to circle the field for a while. As it was we landed
15 minutes after the game ended.

--
Frank....H

Gig 601XL Builder
March 28th 05, 11:11 PM
Don't forget to throw in a homebuilt suite. It could be filled with those
Extra parts that we couldn't find a place for on the plane.


Gig

"Jim Burns" > wrote in message
...
>I "think" there are plenty of suites yet "un-aviation themed" that maybe a
> suite for each GA manufacturer could be created?! (ducking)
> Jim
>
> "Montblack" > wrote in message
> ...
>> ("Jay Honeck" wrote)
>> > Cool! We've talked about doing a "Rockwell-Collins Suite", both
> because
>> > they are so close by to us and because of their amazing history of
>> > aviation innovation. I'm sure we could snag a ton of memorabilia for
> the
>> > suite without lifting a finger.
>>
>>
>> I know I'm currently banned from the suggestion box, but...is there a GA
>> Suite in the works? Kind of a catch all? I think that would be cool :-)
>>
>> BTW, how many rooms are left to upgrade?
>>
>> Which Suite is the "wow" favorite these days?
>>
>>
>> Montblack
>>
>
>

Bob Fry
March 29th 05, 03:14 AM
"Jay Honeck" > writes:

> When you hear "The Mustang Suite" most people immediately associate the
> name with a feeling, and an era.

I associate it with Nevada, and an activity legal in that state that
ain't in Iowa.

George Patterson
March 29th 05, 04:19 AM
Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> Even though recent
> reports put smoking at somewhere around 30% of the adult population, I
> think it's closer to 50%, especially if you factor in the "social
> smokers" -- those who only smoke when they drink.


I think you will find this to be regional. Nowhere close to 50% of the people
around here smoke. Smoking is much, much more evident when I go back South.

George Patterson
Whosoever bloweth not his own horn, the same shall remain unblown.

Jay Honeck
March 29th 05, 02:41 PM
>> BTW, nice looking article on your stomping grounds in Air and Space.
>> Haven't read it yet. So many plane magazines, so little time.
>
>
> I'll try to track it down at the volunteer meeting Wednesday evening.
> Otherwise I'll look for it at the library. Heard it was in the pipeline,
> but had forgotten about it. Thanks for the heads up.

It's a good article, in a great magazine. Smithsonian Air & Space is, IMHO,
one of the best out there.

Makes me want to fly back to Anoka in May, for the annual shin-dig!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
March 29th 05, 02:42 PM
> As many time as I have exercised this "privilege" , I never tire of
> the ground falling away under me ...

Beautiful, man. In the face of three (THREE!) fatal accidents in the last
48 hours -- all within 60 miles of Iowa City -- I needed that.

Thanks!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
March 29th 05, 02:44 PM
> I think you will find this to be regional. Nowhere close to 50% of the
> people
> around here smoke. Smoking is much, much more evident when I go back
> South.

Well, that's the funny thing, George -- you don't see it around here,
either. Remember, we're a tight-knit, upscale, college town, with a slew
of highly educated, highly paid professionals.

But get 'em out on a getaway weekend, away from work and family, and you see
all sorts of things.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Gig 601XL Builder
March 29th 05, 03:56 PM
"George Patterson" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Jay Honeck wrote:
>>
>> Even though recent
>> reports put smoking at somewhere around 30% of the adult population, I
>> think it's closer to 50%, especially if you factor in the "social
>> smokers" -- those who only smoke when they drink.
>
>
> I think you will find this to be regional. Nowhere close to 50% of the
> people
> around here smoke. Smoking is much, much more evident when I go back
> South.
>
> George Patterson
> Whosoever bloweth not his own horn, the same shall remain unblown.

I'm in the South and even in places where it used to be close to 100% as
little as 10 years ago (bar at the golf course) it is down to less than 20%.

On the other end of the economic spectrum I see a reasonably large number of
job applicants every week and within that group I'd say it is down by more
than half from when I started interacting with that group five years ago.
I'd put today's smoker rate at about 3 out of 10.

Gig

Jose
March 29th 05, 04:37 PM
> But get 'em out on a getaway weekend, away from work and family, and you see
> all sorts of things.

All it takes is for one person to light up one of those smelly filthy
things and the whole room fills with wreched smoke. It =seems= as if
everyone is smoking and has been for years, but it ain't necessarily so.

Jose
--
Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

George Patterson
March 29th 05, 05:08 PM
Jay Honeck wrote:
>
> Well, that's the funny thing, George -- you don't see it around here,
> either. Remember, we're a tight-knit, upscale, college town, with a slew
> of highly educated, highly paid professionals.
>
> But get 'em out on a getaway weekend, away from work and family, and you see
> all sorts of things.

Unless hostelery in Iowa is vastly different from places I've lived, you aren't
seeing them -- your customers are from elsewhere.

George Patterson
Whosoever bloweth not his own horn, the same shall remain unblown.

Montblack
March 29th 05, 07:07 PM
("Jay Honeck" wrote)
> It's a good article, in a great magazine. Smithsonian Air & Space is,
> IMHO, one of the best out there.
>
> Makes me want to fly back to Anoka in May, for the annual shin-dig!


Well you're always welcome. However, I thought you had something going on
around May 20th - 22nd?

BTW, the D.A.D. event this year (Discover Aviation Days) will be a mish-mash
of 'independent' offerings - like a neighborhood garage sale.

D.A.D is on hold for this year, after last year's disastrous rain-out, plus
we had some sponsor/underwriter pull-outs. There is still going to be an
(unofficial) open house at ANE this spring - complete with pancake
breakfast, warbirds, etc.

The Lindbergh Foundation event at Golden Wings Museum just happens to fall
on this same weekend. So we lose the structure of D.A.D. but gain Burt Rutan
and friends. <g>

http://www.lindberghfoundation.org/events/thisyear.html


We're having two hangar dances that weekend at Golden Wings Museum - Friday
for the above Lindbergh event, then Saturday night will be our annual (ANE
open house) Big Band Hangar Dance.

http://www.goldenwingsmuseum.com/Airshows.htm

http://www.goldenwingsmuseum.com/Aircraft.html


Montblack

Montblack
March 29th 05, 07:29 PM
(Martin Hotze" wrote)
> [x] send pics!

Marty Marty Marty

Isn't there already an excellent (FREE) German site out there for you?

..)

BTW, this (FREE) site used to be much cleaner (looking) and easier to
navigate - call it fun, untill someone came along and mucked it up. Web page
designers (!!!) They live in their own little worlds sometimes.


Montblack

Jay Honeck
March 29th 05, 09:01 PM
> Well you're always welcome. However, I thought you had something
going on
> around May 20th - 22nd?

Oh, yeah. That's my nephew's wedding out in Seattle.

Since he moved the wedding date so that I could attend, I suppose he
wouldn't understand if I told him I was spending the weekend in Anoka
with you, eh?

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jack Allison
March 29th 05, 09:26 PM
Jay Honeck wrote:

> It's a good article, in a great magazine. Smithsonian Air & Space is, IMHO,
> one of the best out there.
Yep, definitely agree. A&S gets read pretty quickly after it arrives.
Prior to getting my PPL, it was the only magazine I received. Now,
there's AOPA, EAA, Cherokee Pilot's Association, *and* A&S. Mmmmm, good
reading.

--
Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-IA Student-Arrow Buying Student

"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci

(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail)

Dave
March 30th 05, 04:12 AM
My pleasure...

Seems I lose a little piece every time I hear of of accidents,
especially fatal ones.

I have to remember why we choose to do this, and why we do it again.

There is risk in all we do, but I distinctly prefer to manage my risks
myself..

I wish we could share the experience of flight with everyone, but it's
not possible.

So, the best thing I can think of to do is take a friend flying when I
can..

My condolences and prayers to the families.

Dave



Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:42:24 GMT, "Jay Honeck" >
wrote:

>> As many time as I have exercised this "privilege" , I never tire of
>> the ground falling away under me ...
>
>Beautiful, man. In the face of three (THREE!) fatal accidents in the last
>48 hours -- all within 60 miles of Iowa City -- I needed that.
>
>Thanks!

Jay Honeck
March 30th 05, 04:05 PM
> Unless hostelery in Iowa is vastly different from places I've lived, you
> aren't seeing them -- your customers are from elsewhere.

Well, yes and no. In the winter, a large portion of our business is from
getaway weekends for "locals" (i.e.: Within 50 miles.)

When you've got 15 hot tub suites, that's a natural.

In the summer and fall, the guests are from all over, thanks to pilots and
Big Ten football.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
March 30th 05, 04:06 PM
> [x] send pics!

No way, Jose.

As we say in the biz, "What happens at the Alexis, stays at the Alexis..."

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck
March 30th 05, 04:09 PM
> Yep, definitely agree. A&S gets read pretty quickly after it arrives.
> Prior to getting my PPL, it was the only magazine I received. Now,
> there's AOPA, EAA, Cherokee Pilot's Association, *and* A&S. Mmmmm, good
> reading.

Yep. Now add Flying, Private Pilot, Aviation History, and Flight Journal
(which is even better than A&S, IMHO) to that mix, and you'll never need to
read anything else again.

You won't have time!

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Grumman-581
March 30th 05, 06:54 PM
Jay Honeck wrote:
> Well, yes and no. In the winter, a large portion of our business is
from
> getaway weekends for "locals" (i.e.: Within 50 miles.)

And then there are those hourly rentals... Those are locals, right?
<dirty-old-man-grin>

Cub Driver
March 31st 05, 12:09 AM
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:05:16 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
> wrote:

>Well, yes and no. In the winter, a large portion of our business is from
>getaway weekends for "locals" (i.e.: Within 50 miles.)

Under 18?


-- all the best, Dan Ford

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RST Engineering
March 31st 05, 03:48 AM
Cop is out patrolling the local lover's lane. The usual cars, the usual
steamed-up windows. This one car, no steamed up windows, the lights are on
inside. Cop stops behind the car, walks up to the driver's window and taps
on the window with his nightstick...

Kid inside the car: Evenin', officer.
Cop: Evenin, son, watcha doing?
Kid: Reading a book, officer.
Officer (noting a young lady in the passenger seat): What's the young lady
doing?
Kid: (looks over) I think she's reading a book too, officer.
Officer: How old are you, son?
Kid: Eighteen, officer.
Officer: How old is the young lady?
Kid (looking at his watch): Well, officer, in exactly 13 minutes, that
young lady is going to be eighteen, too.



Jim




> Under 18?
>
>
> -- all the best, Dan Ford

Jay Honeck
March 31st 05, 04:28 PM
>>Well, yes and no. In the winter, a large portion of our business is from
>>getaway weekends for "locals" (i.e.: Within 50 miles.)
>
> Under 18?

No. Why?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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