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Andrew Gideon
March 28th 05, 08:51 PM
I've become aware of an event that indicates certain decision-making
failures. The parties involved were lucky, so there was not even an
incident out of this. But that doesn't make the choices involved any less
risky.

Does it make sense to fill out a NASA form for this? There's no need for
anyone to be protected against an FAA action, of course. And I've no
interest in naming names. But there's some education to be had here. Is a
NASA form appropriate for this?

- Andrew

Larry Dighera
March 28th 05, 09:25 PM
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:51:28 -0500, Andrew Gideon >
wrote in e.com>::

>Is a NASA form appropriate for this?

Would filing such a NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System report
assist in meeting their stated goals?:

http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/overview_nf.htm
The ASRS collects, analyzes, and responds to voluntarily
submitted aviation safety incident reports in order to lessen the
likelihood of aviation accidents. ASRS data are used to:

Identify deficiencies and discrepancies in the National Aviation
System (NAS) so that these can be remedied by appropriate
authorities.

Support policy formulation and planning for, and improvements to,
the NAS.

Strengthen the foundation of aviation human factors safety
research. This is particularly important since it is generally
conceded that over two-thirds of all aviation accidents and
incidents have their roots in human performance errors.

Peter Duniho
March 29th 05, 01:09 AM
"Andrew Gideon" > wrote in message
online.com...
> [...] But there's some education to be had here. Is a
> NASA form appropriate for this?

As Larry points out, the primary raison d'etre for the NASA form is NOT for
the enforcement protection. The enforcement protection is just the carrot
to get involved pilots to admit mistakes, possibly their own.

The primary purpose is to enhance safety, particularly where human error is
involved. If you think you can help through the filing of a NASA report, by
all means do so. Your butt doesn't need to be on the line.

Pete

Marco Leon
March 29th 05, 07:30 PM
Andrew,
Can you post the text here when you're done so we can learn from it without
digging through the NASA database?

Thanks,

Marco

"Andrew Gideon" > wrote in message
online.com...
>
> I've become aware of an event that indicates certain decision-making
> failures. The parties involved were lucky, so there was not even an
> incident out of this. But that doesn't make the choices involved any less
> risky.
>
> Does it make sense to fill out a NASA form for this? There's no need for
> anyone to be protected against an FAA action, of course. And I've no
> interest in naming names. But there's some education to be had here. Is
a
> NASA form appropriate for this?
>
> - Andrew
>



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Andrew Gideon
March 31st 05, 01:50 PM
"Marco Leon" <mmleon(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

> Andrew,
> Can you post the text here when you're done so we can learn from it
> without digging through the NASA database?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marco
>

Sure. Once I complete the write-up, I'll post here. I'm currently trying
to decide whether to - and if I do, decide on a polite way to - get one of
the persons involved to write with me.

- Andrew

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